Unpopular Opinions about Video Games

[Prophetic Spirit]

The kind of people who are obsessed with it are fucking freaks who see Vivec as a role model.

One of the reasons why i'm always killing him post-main game.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Hardcore Morrowind/Kirkbride fans are some of the most deranged types around. They also tend to be super fucking gay and, in recent years, are all about trooning out.

Do New Vegas and Morrowind fans overlap? Or is it just a coincidence they are so similar?

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Do New Vegas and Morrowind fans overlap? Or is it just a coincidence they are so similar?

Both are claimed by fans rather than media with Oblivion/Skyrim and Fallout 3 & 4.
I think troons are the reason.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

There was a 3D Worms-like on Playstation called Hogs of War that was quite well recieved. It never had the mass normie audience of Worms, but it seemed to be well liked in it's day.

An amazing game. Very funny humour, great weapons and a fun idea.
The main menu theme music was the same themetune from Monty Pythons Flying Circus. Instant win in my book.

"Don't go out on the moors"

 

[The Last Stand]

Best part of Fallout is the animated Vault Boy. No, I've never played it yet. Why do you ask?

 

[Gondolindrim]

It's crazy, cause even Kirkbride himself will say this and often points to Kurt Kuhlmann as being the big Elder Scrolls lore creator IIRC

Kirkbride only gets so much attention because he uses the forums/reddit so autistic fanboys grew an emotional attachment to him.

Ironically, his online presence is exactly what makes me think less of him. I get that his "weird lore" is a major selling point for the people that spend hours reading books but the way he describes his own fanfiction just drives me up a wall. For example, Pelinal Whitestrake is a time traveling robot, which is already kind of stupid but sure, but MK tells it like "Pelinal was and is an insane swarmform war fractal from the future." What the fuck are you saying man? Stringing together a bunch of random words doesn't make your stories any better. Don't even get me started on C0DA. There's a world of difference between being creative and getting so far up your own ass that you start babbling like a fucking schizo.

 

[X Prime]

Yeah the Vivec stuff is really stupid in parts, reads like an edgy erotic RP that somehow people pretend is deep.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

His shit is cringe, which makes me actually want to see his next Cyrus story/audio book/whatever the fuck it is actually see the light of day.

 

[The Last Stand]

From the Sony thread:

Why even have an Internet browser for a console anymore? I'm sure if you own a console nowadays, you own at least one other Internet capable device.

I'm speaking for the here and now with the rise of smartphones.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

The move from isometric RPGs to shooter-style RPGs actually saved the RPG genre during the late 2000s-early 2010s. JRPGs were getting dated, and the isometric RPGs were even more dated than them. Games like Mass Effect 1 and 2, and Fallout 3 and New Vegas, allowed the WRPG genre to reach new heights in popularity.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Games like Mass Effect 1 and 2, and Fallout 3 and New Vegas, allowed the WRPG genre to reach new heights in popularity.

And it culminated in Starfield.

 

[Kromir]

The stormcloaks are actually the good guys in the skyrim civil war. Say this anywhere else and people will loose their shit and its always the same leftist argumentation you see everywhere else. They saw a couple nords who weren't even stormcloaks saying mean things when you first enter windhelm therefore Ulfric is literally Hitler and he is going to gas the Dunmer. You are concerned about religious freedom being suppressed by the empire? Well Ulfric didn't drop everything in the central hub for the rebellion to give welfare to the dunmer therefore he is a meany pants who was just like the nazis.

Then its the blatant assumptions about what might happen in another great war where they just assert that global corrupt empires throwing provinces like hammerfel under the bus to protect cyrodil's interests is the only way to win a war. Forget about Millitary Alliances, those don't exist. People even go as far as to try to blame the empire trying to kill you for absolutely no reason on the stormcloaks because why blame the actually people enganged in the action when you can shift the blame?

 

[The Foxtrot]

The stormcloaks are actually the good guys in the skyrim civil war. Say this anywhere else and people will loose their shit and its always the same leftist argumentation you see everywhere else. They saw a couple nords who weren't even stormcloaks saying mean things when you first enter windhelm therefore Ulfric is literally Hitler and he is going to gas the Dunmer. You are concerned about religious freedom being suppressed by the empire? Well Ulfric didn't drop everything in the central hub for the rebellion to give welfare to the dunmer therefore he is a meany pants who was just like the nazis.

Then its the blatant assumptions about what might happen in another great war where they just assert that global corrupt empires throwing provinces like hammerfel under the bus to protect cyrodil's interests is the only way to win a war. Forget about Millitary Alliances, those don't exist. People even go as far as to try to blame the empire trying to kill you for absolutely no reason on the stormcloaks because why blame the actually people enganged in the action when you can shift the blame?

Bro, Ulfric is literally a Thalmor asset.

 

[Kromir]

Which means absolutely nothing if you actually read the dossier. I will take the faction that actually kills thalmor agents over the one that sucks its dick any day

 

[The Foxtrot]

Which means absolutely nothing if you actually read the dossier. I will take the faction that actually kills thalmor agents over the one that sucks its dick any day

You mean the faction that doesn't actually do a damn thing to fight the Thalmor while actively forwarding its agenda, while the other faction's preparing for Round 2? I mean, it's pretty fucking unsubtle that the Legion is preparing for another war with the Dominion after they mop up Ulfric's rebellion.

I know Stormfaggots love deepthroating Ulfric because he's "SKYRIM 4 TEH NORDZ!", but the idiot is playing straight into the hands of the Thalmor. And not for nothing, but he didn't even legitimately challenge the King, he just ran up to him and said "I challenge you!", then blasted him apart. And then fled because regicide is illegal and he's too much of a coward to actually sit on the throne he just killed for. All the while, his "rebellion" is tearing apart the country he claims to love so much. But hey, every once in a while a band of Stormcloaks gets lucky and kills a few Thalmor agents, so he's the best choice, right?

Let's say he does win (highly unlikely)? Do you really think he's actually going to be in ANY position to fight the Dominion? Fuck no, he can barely keep his inbred army from losing to the Imperial Legion's garrison troops. Which, FYI, if he does "win", the Empire would just come back with bigger and better equipped Legions.

But let's say that the Empire just wrote Skyrim off instead of reclaiming its territory, shall we? Skyrim is a country that has been a part of the Empire for over 600 years and is so interconnected and dependent that "independence" would leave Skyrim in abject poverty. Not to mention, a refugee crisis as people who don't want to live under Ulfric would move either to Cyrodiil, High Rock, or back to Morrowind. This situation would continue until either Ulfric gets deposed in a coup/dies of old age and his successor begs the Empire to let them back in, or Skyrim falls to the Dominion.

And if Ulfric can't even beat the Imperial Legion's local garrison troops, he'd maybe last all of a month against the Dominion. Which, in his defeat, he'd be handing the Dominion true, final victory over the Empire on a silver plate.

 

[Kromir]

You clearly haven't been paying attention, Northwatch Keep is wiped out by the stormcloak backed greymane house to rescue thorvald, Galmar even flat out murders Ondolemar in Markarth after capturing the city, Even after cutting the RP. his stuff is moved to the hall of dead and if I am not mistaken the Thalmor patrols hauling off prisoners stops happening within stormcloak lands.

Your account of the high king's death is also false, He did formally challenge him, Torygg accepted because he choose his career over his life and if you ask ulfric himself he says that he did not shout him apart but he killed him with his sword, Sorry but I don't believe what random guards say. And whats funny is how you blame his rebellion for tearing his country apart but not the evil empire and dominion who is carting off people's family members for brutal torture for worshipping Talos. That doesn't register on your radar?


And there you go making the same brain dead arguments I hear all the time. You can't fathom the idea of Military alliances. You don't realize how siphoning all the wealth out of skyrim to sustain cyrodil is detrimental to the people in Skyrim. Remember when the empire strip mined what they thought was all the ebony out of solstheim then high tailed it out of their leaving the people impoverished? Or how about the imperial jarls who are actively in favor of the dominion as long as it lines their pockets? Enough is enough. The empire needs to just die already

 

[The Foxtrot]

You clearly haven't been paying attention, Northwatch Keep is wiped out by the stormcloak backed greymane house to rescue thorvald, Galmar even flat out murders Ondolemar in Markarth after capturing the city, Even after the cutting the enactment his stuff is moved to the hall of dead and if I am not mistaken the Thalmor patrols haling off prisoners stop happening within stormcloak lands.

This is all player-dependent, and if you let the AI do it alone, the Thalmor win every time.

Your account of the high king's death is also false, He did formally challenge him, Torygg accepted because he choose his career over his life and if you ask ulfric himself he says that he did not shout him apart but he killed him with his sword

Ulfric did not...

Sorry but I don't believe what random guards say.

...because Torygg himself says so in Sovngarde. I quote: ""When Ulfric Stormcloak, with savage Shout, sent me here, my sole regret was fair Elisif, left forlorn and weeping. I faced him fearlessly - my fate inescapable, yet my honor is unstained - can Ulfric say the same?"
Does this sound like a formal challenge issued, then answered? Or does this sound like a fucking ambush and Torygg decided to die on his feet knowing he was gonna die anyway? And this confirms that YES, Ulfric did indeed just literally blast him apart.

And whats funny is how you blame his rebellion for tearing his country apart but not the evil empire and dominion who is carting off people's family members for brutal torture for worshipping Talos. That doesn't register on your radar?

Except the Empire didn't enforce the ban on Talos worship until after Ulfric started showing his ass, and the Thalmor took notice. Before then, it was "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" in practice rather than an outright ban. And even inside Imperial territory, the only place that Talos worship is actively clamped down* on is in Markarth...for obvious reasons, because that's where the Stormcloak Rebellion actually began.


*Not "random patrols every once in a while in the woods", but full on "Purge the Talos worshippers".

You can't fathom the idea of Military alliances.

Who the hell would ally with Ulfric's Skyrim? His neighbors of Cyrodiil and High Rock, would immediately cease diplomatic relations and embargo the shit out of him.

Morrowind would probably declare Ulfric an illegitimate ruler anyway and not be interested in talking to him since he's a racist prick and would almost certainly keep the "Grrr, I hate Dunmer!" attitude going in Skyrim. Given how badly he mistreats Dunmer inside his hold and all the racial wars the Nords have fought against the Dunmer in past times, I'd expect Morrowind to regard Ulfric's Skyrim very coldly.

You don't realize how siphoning all the wealth out of skyrim to sustain cyrodil is detrimental to the people in Skyrim.

Where is this happening? If anything, the East Empire Company is bringing wealth into Skyrim via exporting products and providing shipping.

Remember when the empire strip mined what they thought was all the ebony out of solstheim then high tailed it out of their leaving the people impoverished?

You mean after the Oblivion Crisis when the Empire was too broke to do anything with its colonies after narrowly surviving an apocalyptic war? Or after the Red Year when it legally became Morrowind's territory again, and at which point most of the colony was abandoned anyway?

Or how about the imperial jarls who are actively in favor of the dominion as long as it lines their pockets?

You mean that of the Jarls that show up at the Embassy, only one could really be said to be "in favor" of the Dominion, and that's Maven Black-Briar...you know, the cunt that's basically a Mafia boss?

Enough is enough. The empire needs to just die already

No.

 

[Kromir]

That's a rather odd argument, You just assume that because these events happened in a game quest which naturally will involve the player then that means that they couldn't have happened? I could use that same argument to say that the empire could never beat the stormcloaks and they would remain in a stalemate, Or that the emperor was never assassinated by the brotherhood because it was ultimately the player who does it. You are just trying to diminish stormcloak victories that happen during the game.

That Torygg quote does not confirm anything. Ulfric says that he used the voice in the battle but he also used his sword to get the kill. There are no contradictions there. The voice can be used but that doesn't mean it was the killing blow.

Not sure what your point is here. They are after talos worshippers now and the empire is directly complicit therefore rebellion is justified

You do know that highrock is multiple kingdoms right? And in morrowind don't give me that racism crap. Ulfric hasn't done anything to the dunmer. His "Crime" is that he hasn't dropped everything to provide gibs for the dunmer. But you want to know who would make a potential ally.

Hammerfell. They hate the empire now because the empire sold them out to the dominion in the war, They refused to become occupied and fought on without the empire and actually won. Then, assuming that questline is legit, They sent agents to skyrim to hunt down thalmor agents. But lets ask who would help the empire? There is only one morrowind house that is sympathetic to the empire and they have lost all of their influence and I told you what the redoran on solstheim think of the empire now.

Go listen to the conversations in the blue palace and you will see what I mean here, Bryling makes it pretty clear they are being siphoned to the detriment to the people

Ah you will love this part then, Go look into Jarl Siddgeir of Falkreath

He basically flat out says that he will support whoever lines his pockets, He was even consorting with the bandits outside of the hold to extort more money.

Some Jarls resent the Thalmor. How about you?"Yes, I know what you mean. Most Nords struggle to accept change. Those who fought the Thalmor in the Great War still see an enemy. But that war is over, and a new day has dawned. Besides, the Thalmor reward their friends richly. Anyone who doesn't take advantage of that is a stubborn fool."

Have you known Elenwen long?"I've known her long enough to appreciate her excellent taste in food and wine. And also long enough to respect her importance to Skyrim. She plays a vital role in rooting out the forbidden worship of Talos. As far as I'm concerned, those Talos-worshippers get what they deserve. All they do is cause problems for me and the other Jarls."

Black Briar isn't the worst of your problems

Finally, the empire is in shambles, The emperor is dead, Assassins hired from within the imperial government, Most of the world hates the empire and the corruption is rampant. Why would I want to preserve that? They sell out all of their allies and throw everyone under the bus.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Whew, that is a good nerd debate. I don't know any of the story details because I didn't pay close attention, but I definitely wanted the Stormcloaks to win, but apparently it's more complicated than it seems at a glance.

 

[whogoesthere]

Whew, that is a good nerd debate. I don't know any of the story details because I didn't pay close attention, but I definitely wanted the Stormcloaks to win, but apparently it's more complicated than it seems at a glance.

I just look for the option that creates more conflict and war, thus options are decided on if they will increase violence.

Only storylines I ever care about are nice ones like a romance (not sex, the actual romance part), or siblings working together. I play all Elder and Fallout games like a family man who enjoys ultra violence. I must protect my family, by killing other people.