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Also, unrelated, but sex before marriage should be illegal, this is a hill I will die on. Casual sex is a net negative for society and needs to be restricted.
I consider myself a faithful Christian, but more laws like this are a stupid idea. My wife and I had sex very early into our relationship, but once we had sex, I very much viewed it as a commitment and a promise. I believe it is one of the reasons she married me.

Sex is complex and beautiful and should never be casual. The Bumble thots that think sex is transactional and a cheap thrill are depressing and I feel sorry for them. They have far less to offer than they believe.
 
A woman will ask me to do something. The process is all that matters, and she has an autistically specific step-by-step process for how it must be done, which she won't share with me before I start. I'll begin the process, and she'll begin the process of criticizing every step of the process she didn't explain to me. The criticisms will be vague, rhetorical questions spoken in a tone of voice that suggests I'm the dumbest motherfucker who's ever lived, an unmanageable infant who's working on her last nerve. "You put the onions in FIRST? What are you-... Why would you DO that?!" When asked for clearer instructions, she'll explain her vision as poorly as humanly possible in a tone of voice that suggests I'm a petulant know-nothing who can't follow simple, obvious instructions. The end result doesn't matter, because if I do what she asks in some way that deviates from her stupidly specific, unspoken master plan, she'll refuse to engage with it. Cook a dish she asked for in a way that didn't follow her unspoken recipe exactly, and she'll refuse to eat it. Do a series of chores in a way that doesn't match with her extremely specific, unspoken expectations, and she'll sulk in silence and refuse to even look at the results. I don't think I've ever heard a woman voluntarily utter the words, "Yeah, that works."
You’ve put to words a lifelong frustration of mine. I don’t know why women put the process over the end result, but it’s annoying as FUCK and, in my opinion, has a negative impact everywhere a woman is involved, from doing retarded shit in school because the teacher is anal about it for no reason, to dealing with business processes from a female supervisor, to following the letter of the law as opposed to the spirit of the law.
 
It was supposed to be school, work, through friends, religious institutions, even randomly at places you happen to be around other people. All of those places have been deemed creepy now, except the religious place or through friends, but religious places aren't really good for that for other reasons now, and friends just seem to be less of a thing, sadly.
Do any of you guys want a "HOW TO INTO SOCIALIZING" thread? I have been turning my life around socially for the past year.

I'm willing to share what I have learned from forming male only spaces and recently mixed sex groups (composed of zoomers). I'm still learning and experimenting but would be interested in feedback or ideas, also for other people to join my process and share results.
 
Do any of you guys want a "HOW TO INTO SOCIALIZING" thread? I have been turning my life around socially for the past year.

I'm willing to share what I have learned from forming male only spaces and recently mixed sex groups (composed of zoomers). I'm still learning and experimenting but would be interested in feedback or ideas, also for other people to join my process and share results.
My difficulty with socializing is pretending to be interested in whatever your average faggot is. I can't stand to talk about superhero movies or Little Nas X or whatever the fuck mainstream society is. I DO NOT want to hang around nerds making nerd noises about video games either, done enough of that in my life. What I want to know about socializing is, how not to find cliché people?
 
My difficulty with socializing is pretending to be interested in whatever your average faggot is. I can't stand to talk about superhero movies or Little Nas X or whatever the fuck mainstream society is. I DO NOT want to hang around nerds making nerd noises about video games either, done enough of that in my life. What I want to know about socializing is, how not to find cliché people?
I share your disdain for all of that. I know nothing about sports and have not seen any cape movie since ant man.

Bored people are interested in fantasy and celebrity because the people around them are boring and thus interested in the same trash. Making your own life more interesting means people will prefer to talk about what is going on in front of them rather than distant nonsense.

Mainstream topics mostly stop appearing after the initial hang outs.

Everyone is cliche until something interesting happens near them.
 
My difficulty with socializing is pretending to be interested in whatever your average faggot is. I can't stand to talk about superhero movies or Little Nas X or whatever the fuck mainstream society is. I DO NOT want to hang around nerds making nerd noises about video games either, done enough of that in my life. What I want to know about socializing is, how not to find cliché people?
To my chagrin, I have found social spaces that don't include all that nonsense are usually filled by people at least an age bracket above you, so middle age and close to or at retirement. In automotive communities, them geezers usually have many cool stories and experiences to share. While it might be mentally enriching, the probabilities of meeting peers of the opposite sex is obviously very low.
 
Sex is complex and beautiful and should never be casual. The Bumble thots that think sex is transactional and a cheap thrill are depressing and I feel sorry for them. They have far less to offer than they believe.
I'm 50/50 on this. I agree that sex is beautiful and complex, but I also know that not everyone views it that way. I think it differs massively from person-to-person which is part of that complexity.
from doing retarded shit in school because the teacher is anal about it for no reason
I think I've talked about this before but I remember once in school we had to write our own story in English class for a project. Our teacher set the rules that we couldn't write stories about sports or ones that end as a dream. What if the kid is a jock and they're writing what they know? The Wizard of Oz is a beloved classic and that ends as a dream so is it really that bad? The funny part is that women in publishing tend to act the same way. Their guidelines are so specific that you'd think they'd be better off writing their own damn stories instead.
 
To my chagrin, I have found social spaces that don't include all that nonsense are usually filled by people at least an age bracket above you, so middle age and close to or at retirement. In automotive communities, them geezers usually have many cool stories and experiences to share. While it might be mentally enriching, the probabilities of meeting peers of the opposite sex is obviously very low.
My social turn around started with hanging out with older guys and eventually working construction on the side (totally out of my wheelhouse before). I agree 100% easiest way to make cool friends. I even mix them in with the snooty younger people and they all get along.
 
Couples that enter their sexless phase prematurely is another huge one. If either party refuses to budge, the man is essentially being begged to cheat.

If a wife doesn't want her husband to have sex with her, she shouldn't mind if he has sex with somebody else.

I don't know, if you look at how societies throughout history have treated women, the heavy restrictions they placed on them would indicate women have always been like this and it required a heavy society-wide hand to keep them from jumping on whatever passed for a bad boy at the time. Look at what happens every time those societal expectations are lightened, women go nuts. Women don't have to be taught to be sluts, you just lighten the restrictions and a certain percentage of them seem to go full on hypergamy, others just go with whatever society won't condemn.

Sluts wouldn't exist if men didn't want to bang sluts. It's not just women; young men will ruin their lives over pussy. Society used to have a lot of restrictions on young people in general, restrictions which were torched in the 60s because they were deemed mean. Judging by stats on birth, marriage, substance abuse, and suicide, everyone's ruining their own lives pretty effectively right now.

If you can't date women at work how are people realistically supposed to meet?

School. IIRC the majority of people who do not find someone to marry before they finish school will never marry.
 
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I wish 6 million women died in the holocaust instead of Jews.
Six million women get raped and killed daily because of guys who accidentally look their way in line at Starbucks.
To my chagrin, I have found social spaces that don't include all that nonsense are usually filled by people at least an age bracket above you, so middle age and close to or at retirement. In automotive communities, them geezers usually have many cool stories and experiences to share. While it might be mentally enriching, the probabilities of meeting peers of the opposite sex is obviously very low.
I agree. I think older men are always interested in sharing stories, advice, etc. with younger men. It’s why storytelling and history is even a thing.
Making your own life more interesting means people will prefer to talk about what is going on in front of them rather than distant nonsense.
This is why thots never have anything interesting to talk about. Beneath their shallow exterior, some of them are actually very interested in people who live interesting lives. They say they like to travel but they just hang out in the bars and beaches. A thot I talked to once cried when I talked about all the cool things I did in Barcelona when all she did was hang out at the beach for three days. These are more the exception than the rule because most of them are too self absorbed to believe that any decision they make about anything is less than perfect.
 
You’ve put to words a lifelong frustration of mine. I don’t know why women put the process over the end result, but it’s annoying as FUCK and, in my opinion, has a negative impact everywhere a woman is involved, from doing retarded shit in school because the teacher is anal about it for no reason, to dealing with business processes from a female supervisor, to following the letter of the law as opposed to the spirit of the law.
I've come up with different theories about this over the years, which change based on how I feel about women at the time. In order of most charitable to least:

1. Maybe women are more detail-oriented than men, and the women I know just have a different idea of which details matter most. I care more about the end result of what I'm doing, and I think if I get a decent result in the end, the process to get there must have been good enough. Maybe the women I know just think attention should be paid to the details of every single step of the process.

2. Maybe women are such conformists, they have a hard time imagining someone approaching a problem differently than they would, so they just assume you'll do anything they ask you to do in the exact same way they would do it. Approaching what they've asked you to do in a way that deviates from their unspoken plan makes them deeply uncomfortable, because it's nonconformity, and nonconformity must be punished.

3. Maybe women subconsciously do this so they can lord some kind of imagined superiority over other people (men). Withholding information and then criticizing you for not following their unspoken process allows them to feel superior to the helpless, stupid moid who keeps messing up a simple process (that they don't explain). The thing they asked you to do for them doesn't matter, because what they really wanted deep down was an excuse to talk down to some careless moron, a chance to feel superior to someone. They see this shit play out on every TV show and movie with a clueless manchild husband and capable, sensible wife, and they start to believe in it and look for ways to make it reality.
 
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I have a theory that white dudes invented colonialism as an excuse to get away from their wives
 
To my chagrin, I have found social spaces that don't include all that nonsense are usually filled by people at least an age bracket above you, so middle age and close to or at retirement. In automotive communities, them geezers usually have many cool stories and experiences to share. While it might be mentally enriching, the probabilities of meeting peers of the opposite sex is obviously very low.
Yes, I've noticed that exact, specific thing too.
 
If a wife doesn't want her husband to have sex with her, she shouldn't mind if he has sex with somebody else.
That hasn't been true in any of the cases I've seen. Even when they become sexless due to the woman cheating, she will still take ownership over him. But by the time your spouse is weirded out by your naked body and doesn't wanna change in the same room as you, they at least don't care if you masturbate outside of their presence.

Edit: Oops, I misread "shouldn't" as "doesn't". I agree that it shouldn't matter outside of really extreme circumstances.
Six million women get raped and killed daily because of guys who accidentally look their way in line at Starbucks.
Excuse me, they are trans men now. Do not misgender them.
 
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