DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell: General Discussion #2

[Jasper2K]

Well i guess im a retard who got duped by the alogs on this board because i dont notice this, and i never did.
To this day i dont know what we are doing or ever did to make sure DSP is not happy, outside of the comcast guy and bank leaker posting here without anyone knowing beforehand.

Still waiting for proof of regulars doing gay shit. Probably won't see that proof. Stuff that didn't happen. Just going to be more gas lighting

 

[Incel Death Note]

Most people are in here to laugh at Phil's mushmouth ramblings or terrible gameplay while they're on their lunchbreak at work. The people doing shady shit weren't kiwifarms users and only posted here after the fact. Any trolling suggestions or schemes get negrated to oblivion. We're not evil stalker childs here. Even when a guy (not from this subforum or even this site) got into Phil's bank account he didn't transfer a single cent, just printed out how much Phil was spending on iTunes and the liquor store. The youtuber detractors are looked down on just for throwing around retarded theories about which sock donator is who, even that is considered taking things too far. We're good boys dindu nuffin.

 

[Null]

he didn't transfer a single cent

That's not true. He tried to transfer a million dollars IIRC. I remember a phone call indicating his balance was at -$600,000.

 

[Near]

The Mr. Enter thread got spergatoried back in the day, and then remade when all the people shitting it up splintered. This feels very similar.

 

[Null]

The Mr. Enter thread got spergatoried back in the day, and then remade when all the people shitting it up splintered. This feels very similar.

You're right, that was similar. They were like feral children. People here have been around for years though, so I'm really baffled. It was much easier to just cut out the Mr. Enter people because they were so new.

 

[UaineRunei]

That's not true. He tried to transfer a million dollars IIRC. I remember a phone call indicating his balance was at -$600,000.

I think that balance was a consequence of his account being temporarily locked or something like that. At least that's what people here said at the time, don't know if this is true.

 

[Incel Death Note]

That's not true. He tried to transfer a million dollars IIRC. I remember a phone call indicating his balance was at -$600,000.

If true I don't think he was intending on getting a million dollars from a bank transfer. Likely did it to put up a flag on the account. Regardless that's a minor point, the larger issue is that sort of thing is not encouraged around here.

 

[Snortack623]

I think that balance was a consequence of his account being temporarily locked or something like that. At least that's what people here said at the time, don't know if this is true.

i remember that too

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

That's not true. He tried to transfer a million dollars IIRC. I remember a phone call indicating his balance was at -$600,000.

BoA temporarily withdraws $888888.88 from an account when there's possible fraud detected.

 

[Traian007]

The guy who accessed his bank account had read only access. Any attempt of fraud BOA will withdraw 1 million as a security measure so they cant transfer any money.

 

[Freebird]

If true I don't think he was intending on getting a million dollars from a bank transfer. Likely did it to put up a flag on the account. Regardless that's a minor point, the larger issue is that sort of thing is not encouraged around here.

We don't deny that bank account hacking was bad, but it doesn't help that we hear misinformation at DSP tier, trying to frame us for his random spending. Those 5k business expenses? Well, the evil detractors were actually withdrawing 5k a month and DSP allegedly didn't notice all this time and this all totally happened btw.

It doesn't seem to be about anything other than making sure that DSP is not happy

DSP will never be happy, it's as certain as BMJ never getting that Honda Civic. DSP could have 10 million in his bank account, a hot model, Rambo as his husband, be fed doordash for the rest of his life and DSP would not be happy.

 

[Negative Toxic Loser]

Lowtax sat and watched his website turn into little fiefdoms he had no control over because he was too lazy to do anything about it. What you're seeing is the opposite. I've demodded all the mods for the board because at least one wants to create a splinter site. It's hard to trust people to take care of something that they don't like. I'll look into moderation later but right now there's no point.

Is that why you're overreacting? Because you don't want to end up like Lowtax? Dude, to be like Lowtax you actually have to work at being that fucked. Also removing the moderation team is a bit silly, right? If the subforum has the issues you upset about, you're just pushing that problem onto your global mods and yourself for the time being therefore adding onto your problems. Given your tone on this (perceived or otherwise) you don't want DSP regulars to be around anymore, why wouldn't the mod want to get us out of your hair? Sounds like the mod was trying to do you a solid.

I have put forward an enormous amount of effort to keep this site up and together for over a decade. It's hard to put into words exactly how much I've given up to try and give everyone a space to talk about people that might get suppressed or meddled with on any other platform. There's a reason why this site stays active despite Twitter and Discord existing and despite having an uptime of about 50% in 2023.

It is very insulting how many of you just openly resent the forum. You very obviously hate me, you hate the very few rules that I have in place, and even the mods jump at the opportunity to splinter the community. Usually the mods I pick are very motivated to grow and develop their interests on the site, so it's a painful realization that the people here are actively working against it.

I feel comfortable saying no regular to the DSP subforum, hell no one on the site, is debating you have sacrificed a lot to keep the forum running, that is clear from your weekly therapy sessions and as a professional in the field I understand how stressful even a fraction of owning your own hardware and keeping it running can be, I cannot imagine adding on the crazies. I also feel comfortable saying no regular hates the Kiwifarms, what they take issue with is you. The owner of the site feels that you, personally, are adding to the issues his site faces and then shows it in a negative fashion. How are we supposed to take that, the ones that come to the forum, giggle at a greasy e-begger and move on?

It's also a painful realization to see that even users who have been here for 6+ years don't really consider themselves a part of a broader community. It's just this board, and they post here because they hate one dude. It doesn't seem to be about anything other than making sure that DSP is not happy. I feel like I've allowed myself and my patience to be used, and I've allowed something I've worked very hard to sustain and sacrificed a lot to protect to be used and abused by people who have zero love for it.

How can you have a community when no one is themselves? This is a forum where you require people to be anonymous as much as possible. We are essentially strangers, unless we congregate outside of Kiwifarms. We come to Kiwifarms to laugh at least one person and move on. I understand there are other subforums on the site that are more general and non-lolcow related. Hell, I know there is a thread about guns and as an avid gun nut myself, I'd love to post in it and show off some of my firearms! But this is the Kiwifarms, I need to remember that all kinds of crazies exist (and likely some FEDs) on it that want to destroy the site or the users on it in anyway possible, so I don't.

That is the Kiwifarms. This is the community you fostered.

I am very grateful for the new users from Fishtank and BMJ. It's a breath of fresh air to see people who just want to watch trash TV on the Internet and throw popcorn at the screen together. It's so refreshing to see new users joining for areas of the site who are actually new users, and not just Pot of Greed or other retards joining and immediately posting in the DSP board to cause problems again.

New users you no longer allow to post in the DSP subforum, pretty much marking it for death "until you decide what to do with it".

For the future, I'm debating what to do. My goal is still to give people who actually enjoy talking about lolcows a place to post. What I don't want is to continue to allow a clique of people openly hostile to myself and the rest of the site an autonomous zone to exploit my work.

Personal opinion, I think you should scrap it. It's clear you think the people that regularly use the forum are degenerates and people who actively harass Phil, it's not worth your time. Let your former mods take it and deal with the issues. As someone you would likely consider openly hostile to yourself and "exploits" your work, I think you're a faggot with some good takes on the Internet at large, who has taken a lot of hits to keep the only thing he has ever done with his adult life alive. I respect at least a part of that,

 

[Null]

How can you have a community when no one is themselves?

I don't think this is an accurate representation when even the mods have Twitter accounts for coordinating off-site. There are clearly established personalities at play here.

New users you no longer allow to post in the DSP subforum, pretty much marking it for death

This board hasn't grown in years. At least half are pre-2018. I'm not concerned about a lack of growth, I'm concerned about the 5+ year veterans who hate the site.

 

[Phil's Oddly Shaped Head]

No new users can post in here? Damn. Last one out turn off the portable AC unit ️

 

[EmpGulcasa]

Is it so wrong that some people come to the forum for very specific reasons? I'd argue you could go to any major lolcow subforum and find people who only ever post there and not in the forum at large. I personally find a lot of the rest of the farms distasteful and avoid it like the plague, sticking to DSP stuff and threads making fun of other forums like ResetEra/Twitter and ridiculous troons. Am I somehow not a part of the community because I rarely if ever post in the main forums?

Again, not seeing how collective punishment for the actions of a few makes any sense. You say that whenever you come in here you get treated with hostility, and while I do see a lot of people poking the bear for no good reason I feel like the majority of people here get more annoyed because the little clique of people who follow you into whatever thread you post in inevitably come in to talk shit and it gets irritating to see someone who's never posted in theses threads before popping up just to say "lol yeah null, delete the subforum, fuck these people".

 

[9gfuwegw9j9]

I think every cow benefits from a subforum in terms of having subthreads. Maybe posts should have tags so you can search by tags for the info you want instead of subforums (e.g. Kat would have her own tag, WWE champions tag, etc.)

 

[Agent Proper]

Report button works fine. We have global mods.

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Maybe one day people here will stop responding to literally everything I say as if I just make shit up.

Well, I wasn't quite ready for any announcements, but that's fine. I've been part of this site for years and I have no beef with Null or anyone else. My overall goal is to take some responsibility for the sub to help ease some of the tension here. I believe I've been reasonably fair as a mod for this board, but it looks like changes are being made hopefully for the better for KF and the DSP board. Just remember to point and laugh and take a break if you need to.

 

[Null]

Is it so wrong that some people come to the forum for very specific reasons?

There's always going to be people with singular interests but it's disheartening how that defines the majority of people here and they are very clear in their disdain for me and the site in general.

Mods having a splinter planned and in the works is actually shocking to me considering how hands off I am here already. It seems entirely about getting popular and joining the detracator grift on YouTube.

 

[Fapcop]

I don't think this is an accurate representation when even the mods have Twitter accounts for coordinating off-site. There are clearly established personalities at play here.


This board hasn't grown in years. At least half are pre-2018. I'm not concerned about a lack of growth, I'm concerned about the 5+ year veterans who hate the site.

With all dude respect, chill Null. (Lol! Was about to correct that, but nah.)

I don’t think anyone actively hates the site.

(Or you for that matter. Even if we might bitch occasionally because you don’t like us. Fuck, one of my post made your podcast one day and it made my day. That’s my gay way of saying I like you and the farms.)


Folks are just a little annoyed because the minute you posted here, you had retards coming here, who doesn’t follow DSP and all wanted their little piece of your attention, shitting on the sub forum.

Also: A lot of the criticism raised about the DSP sub forum, is stuff you can say about any other cow. (“Shes not funny, she just eats a lot” about any cow from the beauty threads. “He’s just a drunk lawyer, he doesn’t hurt anyone”.)

At the end of the day, I certainly consider myself a part of the community. I post other places as well. DSP is just my chill popcorn cow whenever I get tired of troons and degeneracy.

And it would really suck if it closed.

As for the sub forum being a mostly self contained entity, isn’t that true for most of the sub forums/threads?

You have a bunch of angry feminists, who never post anywhere but in troon threads and the mandate thread, and that’s fine as well.

 

[Null]

Folks are just a little annoyed because the minute you posted here, you had retards coming here

yeah bro that's the rest of the site. whenever the dsp a-logs have to interact with people outside of this bubble they hate it.

As for the sub forum being a mostly self contained entity, isn’t that true for most of the sub forums/threads?

no.