Designated Whiner Shitting Street - General non DSP-specific discussion and stupid questions goes here

[Si vis pacem para bellum]

I missed my shot to argue with Null in the other threads and won't shit up the new main thread. There's a lot I could say in an effort-post but most of it's already been said. Maybe this will just get lost out here but it's something I haven't seen brought forth yet.

Null sees the subforum as a failure to integrate to the site culture, if that's so then the reason for it is that Null has allowed it to happen by ignoring the subforum. It is clear to me that he has almost no interest in DSP as a lolcow and the limited knowledge he has about the subject essentially keeps him away. He is generally misinfomed about DSP details, which in the DSP shpere, the details are the most critical element. The only time he ever is around in the thread is when some retard comes here to brag about their crimes. That all builds a false or exagerated picture about people's motivations here. I also get the impression that Null has a misplaced sense of empathy for Phil, being that they share a common livliehood in livestreaming.

If Null isn't around to influce the subforum, of course its going to develop freely and probably in a direction he doesn't like. Coming by to chastise people using misinformed generalizations isn't going to get a good response from anyone and that's what we ended up seeing.

I'm not so sure if the damage can be undone at this point enough to keep the subforum healthy, but if Null really wants to fix the integration problem, he should first start by involving himself in the subforum, not in an authority role, but as a participant. Integration is a two way street: the DSP Mexicans speak Kiwi English but the Kiwi Muricans also eat the DSP tacos.

I think you're pretty close but there are some critical missing points.

• Firstly, Youtube is a gay tech company doing gay shit and so no one should support when they stifle funny things to appease advertisers or just autistic self imposed ideals. Lots of great, hilarious content is literally lost to time on banned YT channels, all because some self righteous retard reported it. Participating in this system, let alone abusing this system, just because you dislike the intended victim is itself just the dumbest self-cucking thing one could imagine.
• The next is that there are repeated attempts about once or twice a year to PLAN here IN THE THREAD to break the law or fuck with Phil despite repeated reminders to not do so and this being on the bottom of every page for something like 8 years.
• This adds to the fact that the dude who tracked down Phil's sister in law to fuck her then post pics, and the dude who bruteforced his SSN to illegally access his bank account both did so here, and at a relatively bad time to draw further criminal attention to the farms. The forums have enough FAKE accusations to defend against, the last thing it needs is truthful ones because people are this insistent. Do we all want to know if the front door axe is real? Yes. Should we kick in his door to take a picture? No, and despite how funny getting a picture of some plastic axe he thinks he could use to John Wick intruders to death would be, it would also still be wrong and illegal.

It's clear a lot don't realize how we do get a constant trickle of information about him that is embarrassing and hilarious. As he gets desperate or complacent, we will get more information. This should be extremely evident given the more recent events. He brought on his wife, and left a chokehold on what topics could be talked about. Despite this he repeatedly discussed how he kept his professional and personal lives separate completely ignorant to the fact that his wife, who he's supposedly been sheltering from his professional life's impacts, was sitting next to him. They repeatedly said pretty embarrassing things, and gave further insight into the Burnell household. Again, while constantly reiterating that they were going to not let us know about their personal lives. He's still telling us when anything breaks or supposedly breaks in his house, he disclosed his mother combed his hair into his late teens and that he feels this impacted his baldness in typical clueless cow fashion.

Take it easy, let him be complacent, let him feel safe because that's when he divulges more. Not when he's guarded and paranoid. Let him feel life is better. Stop sharing every single morsel of plan you come across or idea only to have it smugly fed to him by one of his dented gimps. Stop supporting retarded content creators who are just as lazy as him. If you want to fit into the forums better, just look at other cows, document shit first, discuss it later. Most of the DSP folk are fine, it's these vocal minority of literal dent-tractors who actually sit in his stream chat on socks, accept subs, sneak diss, and keep his numbers inflated.

To be honest i never thought much of it, yes i knew for a long time that agent proper was both a mod and a youtube detractor, but i never believed there was anything bad about that because he never tried to hide it
I guessed the boss of the farms was fine with it because why would i doubt that? We now know that Null didnt know about this, but again we had no way of knowing that.

He uses the same name on youtube and everything, i think a lot of the users simply thought the same thing than me. I was not gonna start sperging at a mod of the board if i didnt even know he was actually doing something bad.

I brought this up very early on when returning from a break after the old lead mod left. We had a couple decent ones, one was very level headed but progressively posting less. We had a detractor content creator mod and that seemed really gay, and ontop of that under the new moderation team's guidance the thread's population was filling up slowly with more seething dent-tractors that advocated for trolling plans, mass reporting/flagging, and from time to time even violence as retarded as it was. It got to the point where people who pointed out how far this was from the old culture and the nature of the website were shouted down while people whined that this topic came up every 6 months or so, seemingly mysteriously accompanied by Null appearing to slap a few seething retards. It's almost like when lines were egregiously crossed (especially during the forums very vulnerable time for a bit there) nearly everyone resented them and they couldn't understand why. The rules are simple. Laugh at the balding man playing videogames bad. Wait for him to embarrass himself and enjoy it. Document so we can prove he's lying.

 

[Yung Dalph]

Null sees the subforum as a failure to integrate to the site culture,

I guess if the problem is that the users of this forum don't care about the gay ass little culture of the site, you can't force them. If it's hurting nulls fee fees or his bottom line, just close this shit and be over with.

In its current state this board is much worse than if it was shut down, or before the sperging happened.

 

[Si vis pacem para bellum]

I guess if the problem is that the users of this forum don't care about the gay ass little culture of the site, you can't force them. If it's hurting nulls fee fees or his bottom line, just close this shit and be over with.

In its current state this board is much worse than if it was shut down, or before the sperging happened.

"The Culture" is really simple though. People just value funny over the reddit tier "fuck DSP i hope he dies so I can splooge on his tombstone and flip off his mom at the funeral". The problem is he's pretty boring as a lolcow so the only people really coming to follow him are usually people newer to this kind of stuff, they make a fresh account, and sit here talking about how horrible he is. Yeah he's a lying scammer with no morals. He's also actually retarded, and blissfully unaware/in denial. He's an asexual retard married to cover it up and seem like a big boy. There's not a lot to directly hate there. The only thing that makes him remarkable is that he spends 8 hours a day infront of a camera embarrassing himself most days and thus we learn more of his fails.

 

[myone]

This adds to the fact that the dude who tracked down Phil's sister in law to fuck her then post pics, and the dude who bruteforced his SSN to illegally access his bank account both did so here

Frankly, i've never understood this point of contention. She's an actual prostitute and she's very public about it, zero 'tracking down' required, pretty sure she's been actively looking for 'dates'. Dude did her a favor.

Is it super gross? yes
Is it super petty to fuck phil's sister in law just to spite him? yes
is it super autistic to brag about it on the farms? definite yes on that too

But otherwise it seems super meh to me. You're already on another level if you fuck skanks like her. I don't think there's been any trolling plans in regard to this on the farms, no one he wants their dick to fall off, but damn, did it make me laugh.

 

[Lord_Point]

Frankly, i've never understood this point of contention. She's an actual prostitute and she's very public about it, zero 'tracking down' required, pretty sure she's been actively looking for 'dates'. Dude did her a favor.

Is it super gross? yes
Is it super petty to fuck phil's sister in law just to spite him? yes
is it super autistic to brag about it on the farms? definite yes on that too

But otherwise it seems super meh to me. You're already on another level if you fuck skanks like her. I don't think there's been any trolling plans in regard to this on the farms, no one he wants their dick to fall off, but damn, did it make me laugh.

Yeah that whole thing was retarded but its not really fucking with phil or even fucking with khets sister (figuratively). Shes a porn star/prostitute that was paid to have sex on camera by a retard. Who cares other than ballwashers moral fagging for attention?

 

[Null]

In its current state this board is much worse than if it was shut down, or before the sperging happened.

This all-or-nothing mentality is really obvious for what it is. The worst sour grapes of the bunch want everything knocked down for everyone so they can shill their forums and make money off their YouTube channels.

 

[LostMy1stAccount]

This all-or-nothing mentality is really obvious for what it is. The worst sour grapes of the bunch want everything knocked down for everyone so they can shill their forums and make money off their YouTube channels.

One thing I will say regarding your whole "they want to shill their forum" (which doesn't exist btw) and "make money off their YT channels".-angle
Proper literally used his YT streams to promote Kiwifarms.
Not just the DSP board, but the whole site.
There are multiple people who didn't know that the site was back on clearnet until guys like Proper and other YT/Twitter guys said so.

You really should think about what kind of fairy tale you are spinning with your story.
Take a breath and really think about what is more easier and likely:
Getting people from YT and Twitter to your site or getting people from a subforum of your site to their YT/Twitter channels for engagement purposes.

 

[Quindoll]

I am split.
I am mostly just lurking. Most has been said about DSP already and I have not much to add afterall. I like the forum as a way to keep up to date about DSPs latest shenanigans. The self imposed hermit lifestyle and his chat as main interaction with the world caused him to slowly decline mentally. Seeing him in the Sidescroller interview was genuinly amusing to me. I think one of the mods here was often posting rather detailed summaries of what happend during the streams. I liked that a lot and I will miss it if the user goes away. And with no new users, I am just concerned that the "documentation" is slowly going away, if that makes sense. And that is sad, because DSPs streams are soooooo booooring. I just cannot take them.

I also think that most people here abide by the rules laid down, Yet there are issues. I think the bankleak was verified by people calling the number and just repeating the trick, just how the original person did. That's how the expenses and a budget came togehter. Asking the Comcast leaker for more information kinda goes in the same direction.

This is also the only forum where I got a private message asking me to join a DSP related Discord. I declined. Sadly the DM seems to have vanished. Maybe those get deleted after X amount of time.

 

[Null]

One thing I will say regarding your whole "they want to shill their forum" (which doesn't exist btw) and "make money off their YT channels".-angle
Proper literally used his YT streams to promote Kiwifarms.
Not just the DSP board, but the whole site.
There are multiple people who didn't know that the site was back on clearnet until guys like Proper and other YT/Twitter guys said so.

You really should think about what kind of fairy tale you are spinning with your story.
Take a breath and really think about what is more easier and likely:
Getting people from YT and Twitter to your site or getting people from a subforum of your site to their YT/Twitter channels for engagement purposes.

I like when people reference the forum, but people with financial entanglements with e-drama content should not also be moderators.

 

[LostMy1stAccount]

I like when people reference the forum, but people with financial entanglements with e-drama content should not also be moderators.

You see, this is a completely different (and perfectly resonable) response than the one you gave earlier regarding Proper and clothes.

If you would have said "I don't want a conflict of interest in the forum and risk that a mod potentially is letting gayops slide to create drama to milk on his YT channel (which the mods also never did btw), the whole thing would be way more understandable.

Instead you made a post accusing Proper and clothes of "conspiring on Twitter to break apart the forum so they can profit off of it" which in all honesty sounds completely retaded and off the deep end.

 

[Null]

I actually didn't know that he had a significant off-site presence, but in retrospect I feel it vindicates me.

 

[CaptainDeTractor]

One thing I don’t get (and I’m legitimately asking) is why the need to have the DSP board integrate. Some people just come here to laugh at a fat, begging failure of a streamer, and don’t get any value out of any other lolcows. I might stick my head into Ralph’s board or Chris Chan’s, but what is defined as properly integrating with the rest of the site? I mean…why does anyone have to pop into other boards if they don’t want?

Unless I’m totally misunderstanding the concept of what is meant by integration. Not saying I don’t dabble in other boards, but I’m sure some people don’t. There shouldn’t be a requirement of having to view multiple areas to be a member of KF. I’m just trying to understand the intent, I think.

 

[LostMy1stAccount]

I actually didn't know that he had a significant off-site presence, but in retrospect I feel it vindicates me.

Ok.
Do you think your decision to unmod the two would still be justifiable if Proper didn't have a YT channel?
Or rather, did you solely unmod the two because of some vague "conspiracy" you spun in your head?

 

[buttmunch]

Ok.
Do you think your decision to unmod the two would still be justifiable if Proper didn't have a YT channel?
Or rather, did you solely unmod the two because of some vague "conspiracy" you spun in your head?

if he wasnt here for clout he could have joined on a name completely unrelated to his z-celeb shit, all known content creators should be bullied off site especially if all they do is hang around the part that talks about their cash income, that goes double for having the ability to moderate it. no wonder this subform is full of discord gayop fags when the mods actively participated in it, this isnt rocket science nigger...

 

[marlintan]

if he wasnt here for clout he could have joined on a name completely unrelated to his z-celeb shit, all known content creators should be bullied off site especially if all they do is hang around the part that talks about their cash income, that goes double for having the ability to moderate it. no wonder this subform is full of discord gayop fags when the mods actively participated in it, this isnt rocket science nigger...

To be fair, he did join under a different name, Proper Pangolin. You may remember name changes being an available thing here a couple of years ago.

 

[LostMy1stAccount]

if he wasnt here for clout he could have joined on a name completely unrelated to his z-celeb shit, all known content creators should be bullied off site especially if all they do is hang around the part that talks about their cash income, that goes double for having the ability to moderate it. no wonder this subform is full of discord gayop fags when the mods actively participated in it, this isnt rocket science nigger...

I wasn't talking to your retarded faggot ass so go back to your own board bitch

 

[ShooterOfCum]

people with financial entanglements with e-drama content should not also be moderators.

See, guys? I knew what he was thinking. I am psychic.

 

[Goofy Logic]

People who try to make money off of the harassment and torture of a lolcow are the most despicable kind of people. You are a sadistic psychopath, and do not deserve any endorsement.

 

[Cardinal Cardinal]

An ad to buy shoes isn't 30 seconds of Nike bitching about their quarterly profits being down and that's why I should by their new shoes. I don't go to McGoyslops and hear the manager complain to be about inflation, why the McSlop went up by another $2 and that I should tip another $5 to the workers. I hope you're just pretending to be retarded with the false equivalencies.

I really want those Nike commercials now with a cfo visibly drunk, ranting about last years profits.

 

[Wodanaz]

If it's hurting nulls fee fees or his bottom line, just close this shit and be over with.

You ever stop and think after writing posts like this, "Maybe I shouldn't denigrate this man's decade of work by calling him a retard and a jew" while you post on his website?
Just once, maybe? After all, you've been active recently, so there's no way you could have missed the entire crusade being fought against this man by a cabal of troons.