🐟 Fishtank Sam Hyde's Fishtank.live General - Jet Neptune's Little House of Horrors

[Swamp_Donkey]

he fluctuates between being overly complimentary and a complete asshole to her for no reason.

hot/cold. hes negging trish.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

of course Fatty went on a power trip and yelled at them throughout for not meeting his impossible standards that he could only imagine achieving personally.

The problem was, many of the Chris challenges were decent time filling content and they collectively got berated for 5 hours about how wooden and boring most of them are. His mission for Shinji and Oliver was a good one and he more or less set it up everything for them, and they just waited, and waited and waited. Planning and execution of their attack took something like two or three hours, for something relatively simple like dumping a bunch of cat food and cracking eggs into a bucket, running water on it and hurling it on Tay. After nearly 2 or 3 hours of lead up to their attack they hurl the shit onto Tay who just inspects the contents, sees its just some kind of liquid and cat food mix, rolls over and goes back to sleep. Fatty was right to roast them for being such cockteases who can't pull off even remotely simple tasks without hours of deliberation and questioning of the ethics of doing so.

In the famous "Fatty charges at Letty" clip you have Letty get told about Chris' plan via a TTS snitch, she immediately walks over to the bathroom, grabs the cup of muck, hurls it on Chris, mocks/scolds him for being naughty and that he deserved it, and then leaves with him following in a rage. It didn't take literal fucking hours of planning, just get up and do it. Trish and Tay don't have this issue, they decide on a plan and just fucking do it, Britney was there less than a week and she was already in the proper flow cutting up Tay's yarn or smashing Jimmy's phone. TJ is just a slowbrain so nobody expects scheming from him.

The problem with Shinji is that he is weeks behind everyone else in the show's desensitization process -- everyone else, including TJ, is vastly more desensitized to the hurling of nasty shit, attacks and harassment. Tay effectively no-sold that attack for a reason, it was weak compared to Frank happening upon one of her deep seated revulsions with the cricket attack while she was doghoused, and that came after a full day of the most intense hassling and humiliation any contestant got in either season. Trish and Tay, and Danye have had gallons of spoiled milk poured them them while Shinji just remained a background character. To point out how weak their attack was, TJ didn't even fucking wake up, even as Fatty was berating Shinji and Oliver right above him. Its not that Shinji was bad for hurling the bucket of slop on Tay, its that it took 3 fucking hours of waffling and nearly calling it off twice that pissed Fatty and everyone else off.

Shinji may be good at challenges but his avoidance of conflict is really fucking him, just recently Sam was telling Tay in the attic he was envisioning the final duo being Tay and Shinji, after tonight I don't see that being the case, Tay seems like she is at the point of embracing a full villian arc which will certainly leave her as a member of the final duo, during the attack Trish was in the goon cave whining and muttering about how she is homesick and wants to leave, and then Shinji talks about how he has been interested in leaving for days. Somehow we may end up with a TJ versus Tay ending and I think most expect Tay to win that handily.

 

[Gutpunch]

GODDAMNIT NOT AGAIN why can't he keep his pants on
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built like a rotisserie chicken

 

[filthypenguin]

I think the problem with Shinji, and the show in general, is that the rules and goals aren't explicit. As far as I can tell, if you look at what little rules there are for how the "game" actually works, it boils down to not quitting and winning challenges. The only other game mechanics are ringing the bell, which is not explicit enough to reliably know how good of a shot of winning you have and ultimately serves no purpose, The chips, which haven't really served any purpose, and the endorsements, which also don't have an explicit purpose other than to measure audience appeal, which may or may not have any effect on the actual game.

If these are the only things you have to go on, then the obvious strategy is to be friendly with anyone you would rather face in an elimination challenge than be antagonistic towards you, because it's easier to not quit if the others in the tank aren't fucking with you. Shinji is better than anyone else at challenges, so it seems like the best strategy for him would be to avoid conflict, which is what he's been doing. Any advice production gives anyone is more often than not just lies, so when production is telling him to attack people it reinforces that he's doing the right thing by not attacking people.

When the fish are being told that they're not entertaining enough, and simultaneously Shinji is being told the's the audience's favorite contestant and has the most endorsements, it make it seem like he's the only one playing the game correctly.

Then, if you add in knowledge from the first season, that Shinji may or may not have, the winner was someone that no one would fuck with because everyone liked her, including production. Of all of the staff, she's the least hostile to anyone. Even if Shinji really hasn't watched the show, if he knows that Josie was the winner it's further reinforcement that his strategy is the best.

As far as going the other direction of trying to eliminate people, Britney was able to successfully provoke the person she liked least into physically attacking her in order to get him eliminated. This was a strategy that was seemingly intentional and encouraged on the part of production. Shinji successfully got the person causing him the most grief to attack him physically, and Frank wasn't kicked. Then, the only explicit, in game method for dealing with someone by ringing the bell was used, and Shinji was able to win. Before Frank even made it to the dog house, though, the rules were already different for him being allowed to just take the doghouse with him. He was almost immediately let back out, essentially by threatening anyone who didn't let him out with implied violence, and Shinji didn't really get any reward for ringing the bell.

He still can't see. Someone earlier said that he should have known to bring a backup pair of glasses, but assuming he did it doesn't make any sense to retrieve them if the two people who physically assaulted and restrained him to break them are still there and allowed to do it again.

It's not like Shinji was the only one hassled, so he can't even come to the conclusion that if he'd been more aggressive he would have been safe. If anything, the only things that make sense are that he should have tried to avoid confrontation even more so than he had already.

All that to say: The show has fucked up by having the positive and negative reinforcement apply to things that are at odds with what they want the show to be. Frank was complaining at one point that Shinji was the most endorsed by a long shot and also the best at challenges, and that he didn't understand that those aren't what you need to win, but those two things are the only way the fish (or anyone else) can gauge how well they're doing. Everyone who was entertaining or antagonistic has been eliminated by production.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

I just noticed that nobody clipped TJ's song during the singing challenge, if he was trained he probably could be a half decent singer. Its actually quite common for people with stutters to be excellent singers for some reason.

The song he is singing is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idtq0iC9C3M

 

[Bass Vendor]

Praying for that chair to fall out and give Dumgay the smack down.

 

[Swamp_Donkey]

I think the problem with Shinji, and the show in general, is that the rules and goals aren't explicit.

this problem is demonstrated almost every time shinji does a challenge. he almost always waits for several seconds in silence and then asks confusedly “do i go now?”. i cant really tell if this problem is caused by language, culture, or whatever.

my personal feeling is that he might be used to seeing japanese gameshows that are incredibly “showy” and dont just ramble and meander until a challenge is implied to have begun. this could be exaggerated by language.

 

[curbside2]

I think the problem with Shinji is that he sucks, is this season's Josie, and he's a massive pussy. Yesterday was essentially the death of his reputation but his simps have already committed. He doesn't deserve final three and it's sad that there's a chance he can win it all.

 

[apa gapa]

In the famous "Fatty charges at Letty" clip you have Letty get told about Chris' plan via a TTS snitch, she immediately walks over to the bathroom, grabs the cup of muck, hurls it on Chris, mocks/scolds him for being naughty and that he deserved it, and then leaves with him following in a rage. It didn't take literal fucking hours of planning, just get up and do it. Trish and Tay don't have this issue, they decide on a plan and just fucking do it, Britney was there less than a week and she was already in the proper flow cutting up Tay's yarn or smashing Jimmy's phone. TJ is just a slowbrain so nobody expects scheming from him.

Because the fish in season 1 had actual reason for conflict, Letty actually hated Chris during the time in the tank. Why should Shinji or anyone else even throw shit at someone? Because they did it in season 1? Because some fat retard kept yelling at him about it? This just highlights the problem with season 2 that nobody really has any real bond with each other, and no real conflicts. Ever since Frank came they have been very try hard about it hoping it would stir some conflict, but instead its just making everyone demoralized.

 

[Swamp_Donkey]

dont ask me why it was better. i dont know. it just was.

 

[Charles Vincent Crumb]

dont ask me why it was better. i dont know. it just was.

I think there was a greater sense that you were watching real people in a strange situation during season 1. There is a lot of noise in Season 2 and the people sort of fall into the shadows of that.

 

[filthypenguin]

I think the problem with Shinji is that he sucks, is this season's Josie, and he's a massive pussy. Yesterday was essentially the death of his reputation but his simps have already committed. He doesn't deserve final three and it's sad that there's a chance he can win it all.

Yes, he is this season's Josie, which for the second season in a row has been the correct strategy. The audience is giving positive reinforcement by endorsing him, the staff is giving him positive reinforcement by telling him he's the most endorsed, and the staff has shown him that if you have a personality they will kick you, and being on the show has shown him that having a negative relationship with someone can only work against you.

Also, I don't know that anyone is "simping" for him as much as he's just the most likable person left when your other options are a cringe pick-me with even less of a spine, a pedophile, and the other, somehow less likable whore. I don't think the group of people that would want to fuck him overlap with the group of people that watch anything produced by Sam Hyde overlap much at all. He's also the "fuck Jet" pick.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

Because the fish in season 1 had actual reason for conflict, Letty actually hated Chris during the time in the tank. Why should Shinji or anyone else even throw shit at someone? Because they did it in season 1? Because some fat retard kept yelling at him about it? This just highlights the problem with season 2 that nobody really has any real bond with each other, and no real conflicts. Ever since Frank came they have been very try hard about it hoping it would stir some conflict, but instead its just making everyone demoralized.

Shinji has reason to be mad at Trish and Tay, he doesn't like Trish and has not for some time. He was pissed at Tay for freeing Frank from the doghouse and viewed it as a betrayal. Frank walked directly from the doghouse when he was freed to B3 and told him that Tay was the one who just betrayed him and just cut him loose, Shinji was seething mad and called Tay a bitch for doing so. Fatty and Frank organize a scheme to get payback and he dithers for 3 hours, trying to call off the attack multiple times. Shinji may not be interested in fucking with Trish during that day, but he certainly had reason to fuck with Tay and he did everything in his power to try avoiding conflict.

 

[Nutsack Speedbag]

If any of these fish had weren't burned out and braindead, they'd devise a plan to knock Fatty off his high horse. Craft a spike trap in the stairwell or something for gods sake.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

I think the problem with Shinji is that he sucks, is this season's Josie, and he's a massive pussy. Yesterday was essentially the death of his reputation but his simps have already committed. He doesn't deserve final three and it's sad that there's a chance he can win it all.

All 4 who're left totally suck balls. Shinji is the one that sucks the least.

 

[Enig]

Jimmy's returned to youtube in a grand schizo fashion

Going to review the vid itself and the comments so far
The video: This is some real schizoid shit, I dunno what he's even getting at and any more I am convinced his entire schtick is just CWC tier copycatting of Connor O'Malley videos with a heavy 2009 quality filter over it all. Seriously, what the fuck is this video going on about other than him seemingly being aware of Jet's past dipshittery and imblying he's going to whistleblow things we've already known for years now. Also the last part of it seems to just be there to show off the watch he bought, none other than a motherfucking $15,000+ Rolex Submariner in blue/gold.
The comments: One half is people demanding more in a blatantly obvious cheer on the retard way, the other half's people making dogfucker jokes to the point it feels like he tapped the white woman audience 100%, also some dipshit saying he disabled dislikes when dislikes haven't done shit on YT in ages.

 

[feral cat #6385]

its hilarious how much cheaper contacts are than glasses and how cheap laser eye surgery is compared to glasses too.

Eye surgery isn't a cure all. Contacts are a matter of preference.

Contacts take some getting used to especially putting them in and taking them out. Contacts also have to be taken out and be stored. What's to stop Frank from destroying or hiding the contacts?

 

[retard strength II]

Last night Jet scored a very rare W by letting all the demoralized, buckbroken fish that Chris was fair game and does not have authority over them.

Today they apparently sent TTS messages to them saying Chris Points do matter they just aren't in play right now for current eliminations? No wonder they took all fucking day to do anything. They're being give the easiest "be entertaining" win and just barely took it after still letting him boss them around today. They're that busted from production constantly lying and ~gaslighting~ them? Maybe a lesson for next season!

edit: apparently having mustard, eggs, and something else thrown on him in the doghouse was more than enough as Chris is now threatning to leave.

 

[BingBongDingDong]

The production telling them to be interesting but constantly flipflopping on the rules is dumb. "Chris points dont matter." "actually they do, just for later." Nobody can do anything becuase they might retroactively be punished for it. Theyre like the dog in a skinnerbox that just keeps getting electrocuted, its no wonder theyre just sitting around because regardless of what they do theyre punished. I get its hellhouse, but you cant have an interesting show if its just "Watch these contestants become apathetic to all of our shit."

 

[apa gapa]

The production telling them to be interesting but constantly flipflopping on the rules is dumb. "Chris points dont matter." "actually they do, just for later." Nobody can do anything becuase they might retroactively be punished for it. Theyre like the dog in a skinnerbox that just keeps getting electrocuted, its no wonder theyre just sitting around because regardless of what they do theyre punished. I get its hellhouse, but you cant have an interesting show if its just "Watch these contestants become apathetic to all of our shit."

Yeah its really telling when no one is just telling Fatty to fuck off or something during his rant. These people are totally broken