Fargo - This is a True Story.

This last episode is pro fed propaganda at this point :story:
FX and the writer really wanted to do some damage control for their masters.

Edit: So I really liked the last scene despite hating everything else in that episode. The scene with Munch cooking and eating dinner with the Lyon family while telling them his life story was very interesting and well done. It made me wish he was the entire focal point of the season. He had a ton of interesting potential and his actor knocked it out of the park whenever he was on screen. His reaction to being given something as simple as a soda and the act of a toast was extremely subtle but we instantly knew this was a man who used to be human and over his long life became something powerful but distinctly inhuman and pathetic. And the man did it without saying a word, just a fucking expression. Why the fuck wasn't there more of that?
 
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I started watching season 4 and turned it off in the middle of the first episode. I don't know if it changes, but it seems like it's just two mob families fighting and that doesn't interest me much.

I liked the first three seasons because it was normal people who got caught up in crime and mob activity unwillingly because of their actions. If the central conflict is between two criminal parties already, then I don't really see the point.
 
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What a downright offensive season. quality drop-off from even season 4 (yes FOUR) is astronomical, not even gonna compare it to first 3 seasons because as i mentioned in my previous post this has nothing fargo related in it.
basically nothing fucking happened for 10 episodes and the 1 thing that couldve been at the very least visually fun, the big shootout at the the ranch was done off screen - they even fucking teased a militia tank in episode 8 during the debates and fucking NOOOOOTHING happened. what was even the point of episode 9 which was full on buildup for a big battle, if the shootout gets resolved in 30 seconds with fade to blacks. speaking of black, the nigger character contributed nothing to the story and just died lmao.

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Edit: So I really liked the last scene despite hating everything else in that episode. The scene with Munch cooking and eating dinner with the Lyon family while telling them his life story was very interesting and well done. It made me wish he was the entire focal point of the season. He had a ton of interesting potential and his actor knocked it out of the park whenever he was on screen. His reaction to being given something as simple as a soda and the act of a toast was extremely subtle but we instantly knew this was a man who used to be human and over his long life became something powerful but distinctly inhuman and pathetic. And the man did it without saying a word, just a fucking expression. Why the fuck wasn't there more of that?
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I agree and disagree at the same time. The actor did a great job with Munch, even in that scene. but the scene itself holds no water, how am i supposed to seriously take a lecture about wholesomeness and love and joy from a person who got an innocent cancer patient killed and almost killed his husband beacuse of her lies. what a messy, messy season, i feel like no one working on this show wanted it to have a fifth season and just wanted to get paid.
 
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noah hawley is such a retard that he forgot "one year later" from 2019 is the middle of COVID hysteria. It would have cost nothing to put the characters in masks at the end for .5 seconds, but they didn't bother, because that would take at least one second of work and thought. This is the perfect microcosm of how lazy season 5 is. No one put in any effort at any point, beyond the bare minimum.

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I'm trying to decide if season 4 or 5 is the worst. Chris Rock as a mob boss was miscast and the lesbian couple was the drizzling shits, but season 5 has strong female characters and an evil white man/incompetent white man.
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It's hard to say, but I felt like season 4 could have been good, There were decent ideas there. But nothing is good about season 5. It has no ideas at all. I couldn't salvage this, no matter what.

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i feel like no one working on this show wanted it to have a fifth season and just wanted to get paid.
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100% agreed. no one gave a fuck about this season.
 
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I loved Fargo seasons 1-3, was not totally in love with season 4… but season 5 is dogshit.

It’s literally an entire season composed of ‘cat-and-mouse’ episodes, where the main character is constantly trying to evade the antagonist. It doesn’t allow for proper character development as the only situation we see our protagonist in is scenes where she’s trying to get away from ‘evil man’. It doesn’t help that none of the other characters really do anything interesting either:

- Indian cop is always righteous and gets cheated on, takes on a new job.

- Black man sheriff is good and gets saved by protagonist, dies a good guy trying to get vengeance.

- Husband is a good guy and goes retard-mode for a bit after getting shocked, still a good guy by the end.

The only half-interesting characters I’d say were Gator, old man assassin, and bitch step-mom.

- Gator is a kind of interesting story of someone who can’t prove himself, the dangers of obsession.

- Old man assassin is something called a “sin-eater” which just sounds badass, and his backstory is cool (honestly, none of the rest of his story makes much sense. Maybe his struggle was the burden of bearing the sins he took and he just had to let go? The ending for that character was really fucking gay tbh and a huge disappointment. It would’ve been more in-tune with the show for him to show up, give a speech and end up merking the main character. It would pretty much be the only coherent conclusion for the character’s story, and the only possible saving grace for the rest of the season; protagonist escapes main bad guy, only to face a force of nature with its own moral code that ultimately deals them their fate. Instead he was just a big sad guy that only needed one single moment of compassion to completely change, which also makes no sense. You mean to tell me in 500 years, there hasn’t been one person that has done a nice thing for this guy on the level of giving him a biscuit that’s helped change his mind? I knows the world is a shitty place, but goddamn.)

- Bitch step-mom was the only character this entire season with some coherent character development. She starts as a total bitch, but while following our protagonist’s struggles, she realizes they have more in common than they realize, and she relates more to her, helping strengthen their bond, to the point that she’s actively rooting for her and looking out for her out of her own admiration for her, rather than just because she’s her son’s wife.

I knew this season was a bust as soon as I heard Jon Hamm’s misogynist, wife-beating sheriff character bring up the Bible.
 
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The only thing about this season that works is Roy, everything else, including the feminism, is so slapped together.
 
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John Hamms nipple rings were never explained btw
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Unless he was supposed to have a back story as a sub in some BDSM dungeon and worked his way up to Master.

And neither was it explained where Dot got her badass skillz. Unless her backstory is she went and got herself weapon and combat training, which a civilian can do.
I had a pistol instructor who said she got into guns because she'd been assaulted and is now a very respected instructor nationwide. She has also posted pictures of herself doing some kind of martial art where she proudly displayed her cauliflower ear. She is a very petite woman who would be in for a big surprise if a guy tried her now.
 
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season 4 couldve been so great if it was based around marshal deafy taking down everything he deems immoral, it wouldve been a good twist on the chaotic evil characters i mentioned in my previous post but instead have a chaotic good that lingers throughout the show and fucks shit up.
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Mormon Raylan Givens scores another win.
If you are being technical, Deafy is an antagonist to most of the cast, prone to analogies and with an out of place accent that ends up being fucked over by an event outside the main plot. For me, he and Paul Murrane from Season 3 are the only "agents of faith" that arent evil, thats of course depending on how generous you feel about Mike Milligan and Wrench and Numbers when compared to other crooks. All of them dont affect the plot directly, threaten specific players in the story that are up to scummy shit and when they get out of the story affects how it ends.

Im only halfway through Season 5 and there are so many decisions that just baffle me. Theres an overabudance of licensed music with one episode having like 3 songs in the first 15 minutes and then showing some restraint later. The pace of editing depends on montages to show you the parallels between characters. The little info dump on Ole Munch takes away from whatever mystery the character couldve had. The direction for actors intrigues me because you have Dot and Indira having very heavy Minnesota accents when compared to every other character, Lorraine sounds like she is dozed on xanax, Wayne is the only one that acts like hes from a Coen bros movie, I had to look up their names because of how unremarkable they are. Roy reminds me of Dodd Gerhardt but less over the top, so best character since I cant take him seriously as a threat after he called himself an alpha and wears the same getup in every scene. Way too many characters, subdued acting, overdone dialogue. The obsession with The Nightmare Before Christmas. And you are telling me it gets worse.

So you are telling me that Hawley got the same creative grip he had in Season 1 and decided to make a rethread of the same movie again? Is impressive how each of the first 3 seasons could be summarized as fusing together 2-3 Coen bros flicks considering theres plenty of material left that they havent touched upon. The Barton Fink, Inside Llewyn Davis and Hail, Caesar! season about a failing acting company being funded by crooks for moneylaundering will always be my favourite fever dream.
 
I heard the series was really good and I decided to check out the movie before starting it, and I really don't understand how they made an entire series out of this.

The movie is 1 and a half hours of nothing happening where the only "comedy" is unintresting flat characters saying "oooh yaaa yaaa" in a forced accent every 3 seconds, unforuntately I'm no longer 8 years old so I don't find painfuly forced accents funny.

It feels like someone took the big lebowski and removed all the absurdist comedy out of it trying to make it into a serious crime drama. This movie could have been an hour shorter and not much would have been missed.

Is this what the series is like?
 
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Series 1 is like the movie but more interesting.
Series 2 is pretty much the movie with No Country for Old Men.
Series 3 is A Serious Man mixed with The Big Lebowski.
I've no clue what Series 4 is.
Series 5 is everything from the movie they didn't use back in Season 1 but with AIDS.
 
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