Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[Prester John]

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And instead of taking proper lessons from BoJack/innovating from its structure, you decided to make your characters swear every few seconds and make your shows thinly-veiled fujo fanfictions of themselves. Good job.

She's just giving her depraved fan base what they want.

 

[Seafarer]

Describing Angel with terms like “Fetishizer” and “Problematic” totally sounds like terms that perverted demon Johns would use and definitely isn’t Viv getting assblasted about Xittertards.

 

[Yeshuash]

Something makes me wonder is where are the traditionally masculine characters like some giga-chad that was some warrior who fucked up people in life and in Hell are some warlord with an army of other chads. Unless it proves only the gay go to hell which would be quite hilarious

Closest thing would be Samson but he managed to redeem himself before his death so hi would be kicking ass for the Lord.

 

[Ryona420]

It was mentioned a while back but still not a fan of the design of Adam and the Angels. One friend of mine pointed out he is just black and white Blitzo. Just paint him red and he is an imp. I also don't see how Adam became an angel being the first human man after all.

Aside from that still think its shitty. The new voices just aren't doing it for me and I hate how Vizzie threw away the old cast. Height of scumbaggery to me. Got people to support her passion project when it was small to only throw them away when she made friends with the theater kids to make it a musical. Its not like she could not have had both and just had different VAs for speaking and singing. Something Sonic fucking Underground understood.l

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I will say the only thing praiseworthy about the VAs is that Adam having the same voice actor as Fizz and Sir Pentious really shows how much range the voice actor has more than I expected

 

[Colon capital V]

Someone post episode 3 and 4 here pretty pls

 

[Seventh Star]

I don't like the show anymore. Also the redesigns are all very flat.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Okay, so... watched all four.

First, Viv needs to limit the musical numbers to once per episode. Just, straight up.

Voice acting is a step down, for absolutely no reason that I can figure out. Most are sidegrades, but they seriously screwed the pooch with Angel. He's not AWFUL, but he's trying to imitate Kovac and doing it badly. And why does Katie Killjoy sound like a man now? I actually didn't like Husk's original VA that much, so I don't mind Keith David.

Why does Viv think the world needs another William Blake cosmic mythology ripoff? The answer being that Viv has no idea who William Blake is and thinks she's totes original with "heaven is evil and hell is good, akshully", but never mind that. I fucking despise those kinds of stories. Not because they're blasphemous (although they are), but because they're cliche. You're 30 years old Viv, fucking get past your dad making you go to church on Sunday morning.

I hate Adam. Loathe him. Not in a "villain you love you hate" kind of way. Valentino is that, and hell, Vox is pretty interesting. Adam is just so fucking boring. What he reminds me of, ironically, is the devil in Perelandra. Another, much better reimagining of Biblical mythology that I'm also sure Viv has never read. Adam is just the bootleg version of that. Like that devil, Adam is a schoolyard bully. Unlike that devil, he's ONLY that. The devil Lewis wrote was fascinating because he was an ancient, intelligent, charismatic being who CHOOSES the petty, nihilistic evil of pulling the wings off birds. It's the contradiction that makes him so compelling and terrifying. There are so many interesting things that could've been done here, and Adam is just so one dimensional.

It's not all bad though. The conflict between Alastor and Vox is shaping up to be interesting. I rather like the internal politics of hell. Alastor himself is still a blast. Angel's redemption story has the potential to be good, if it's handled properly (but who am I kidding). On the whole, it's better than what HB ended up being.

It's good. Not great, but good. Could've been better, but could've been worse.

 

[The handsome tard]

Something makes me wonder is where are the traditionally masculine characters like some giga-chad that was some warrior who fucked up people in life and in Hell are some warlord with an army of other chads. Unless it proves only the gay go to hell which would be quite hilarious

At least those giga chad warriors died fighting for what they believed in.

Fags mostly died choking on a dick.

 

[Waifu Days]

Someone post episode 3 and 4 here pretty pls

https://www.wcostream.tv/anime/hazbin-hotel.

Edit: Episodes should be uploaded within the day of airing.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

https://www.wcostream.tv/anime/hazbin-hotel.

Edit: Episodes should be uploaded within the day of airing.

I'm only on episode three, and holy shit, people just randomly burst out into song now. Like there's no build up. They just start randomly singing in the middle of what are supposed to be dramatic scenes.

The songs are trash too, by the way.

 

[Castoreum]

Why does Viv think the world needs another William Blake cosmic mythology ripoff? The answer being that Viv has no idea who William Blake is and thinks she's totes original with "heaven is evil and hell is good, akshully", but never mind that. I fucking despise those kinds of stories. Not because they're blasphemous (although they are), but because they're cliche. You're 30 years old Viv, fucking get past your dad making you go to church on Sunday morning.

Cue me withholding utter rage every time people think that one William Blake painting of Satan originated from the Hannibal film series or whatever.
Also, Faust. Nobody reads Faust (and various iterations) anymore even though they make Faustian tales of Hell and making deals with devils.

 

[Boson]

I like episode 4 solely because they actually did Val's character justice. His voice seems a lot smoother and consistent in it and he's actually intimidating. We knew he was supposed to be a sultry, scary pimp, but his introduction was like, "who is this cranky clown trying to do 3 accents."

 

[Colon capital V]

I'm only on episode 3, and holy shit, people just randomly burst out into song now. Like there's no build up. They just start randomly singing in the middle of what are supposed to be dramatic scenes.

The songs are trash too, by the way.

TSMT, the first songs in the first two episodes might've been a bit awkward when they first came on, but they were bangers for the most part so I didn't have too much of an issue with them.
In episode 3 it was fucking atrocious. When they were leaked here I thought they sounded pretty flat and not good compared to the previous ones, but oh my god they are even worse when they show up on screen completely unprompted.

 

[AnOminous]

And why does Katie Killjoy sound like a man now?

Because her VA is LITERALLY a man.

 

[SpiderBitch]

And why does Katie Killjoy sound like a man now?

Nepo hagfag

 

[Larry Trainor]

Spoiler: Spoiler to make it smaller

I really wish the show was more varied in so many ways. Why did Husk have to say "bullshit" constantly and not another word to make the dialogue flow better? Also, the duet having terms like "shit sandwich" and the such is a major turnoff. Each time it kept saying that, it felt flatter as a song. It's a nit-picky opinion, but it threw off the groove. It has so many awkward lyrics that suddenly pause the flow of the music that it's jarring. Especially when it's sung by a guy like Husk, whose voice is smoother and suits more jazzy, fluid lyrics, not harsh ones that suddenly cut in.

For Camille (?), I hated that her song sequence was mostly just a closeup of her face. We should've been introduced to her before the angel assassination and could've built on a "who did it" sequence for the exterminator kill reveal to atuall have suspense. Revealing that she was the one who did it was so bland and uninspired since it gave fans no time to dwell on it. Who did it? Oh, just this new character you haven't met before!

We also have all these characters suddenly introduced and know nothing about them. Who is the 20-foot dog girl overlord? Why does Camille have two kids with green Shakespeare who look like normal humans with animal features and red eyes? What are their names, and why were they at the meeting? We were introduced to so many characters quickly, and we learned virtually nothing about them other than Velv, Camille, green Shakesphere, and Frank Egg.

Too much is being introduced too quickly without any room for natural expansion. This could be because only two seasons are confirmed, but it doesn't make the story flow any better. I should change my username comment to "Four episodes and no story development".

 

[The Fair Lady]

Some guy posted a thread of potential spoilers for the latter half of season 1. Take with a grain of salt as always, but at the same time, a couple of these aren't new and have been semi-confirmed...

Spoiler

The Sir Pentious one is really going to hurt if it's true. Leave it to Viv to kill off the most likeable character.

 

[Beautiful Border]

Describing Angel with terms like “Fetishizer” and “Problematic” totally sounds like terms that perverted demon Johns would use and definitely isn’t Viv getting assblasted about Xittertards.

It also shows how sheltered she really is, how little experience she has with the seedier side of society. This poster on /co/ described the problem with people like Vivzie trying to write "evil characters" perfectly:

 

[Charnel Ground]

Anyone going to Megacon? Looks like a bunch of other cows will be there too.

Oh dear, look at this goddamn headshot.

Viv's mouth is the "Deviant" sticker??