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The .357 Sign is basically a necked down .40 and the magazines are otherwise identical.
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I have no idea how accurate the information I have been given is but, when I heard the armorer had brought live lead projectile cartridges to the set and she and some of the cast and crew were loading them into the same revolver(s) that were going to be later loaded with blanks and filmed throughout the production, I wondered if she had been sniffing glue that day.
Sources claim DA told Hanna Reed, explain the live ammo on set or we're throwing you under the bus with Baldwin
I'm getting a lot of "danger hair" "thot" tone from just the optics available online here. Not sure if I'd trust this person with feeding my dog let alone to ensure firearm safe handling. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm getting a lot of "girl power" and "If I were a man , you wouldn't be asking me if I'm sure these guns were loaded" vibes. Maybe I'm projecting, maybe I'm buying into propaganda produced by the Baldwin defense team to get ahead of public prosecution which is almost the same thing as criminal these days.
I've stated it's a pointless personal policy to want to agree with everything your favorite artist/actor/creative says over politics and such, that being said Hollywood has been preaching anti 2A rhetoric for at least the last 30-40 years but, glamorizing, promoting and even applying the "talking points" of the people they openly oppose directly into the plot of their films. Alec Baldwin and many other people hardly qualified to have an opinion worth repeating are being given this platform as if they have some kind of criminology/sociology background. In reality they are just narcissists who don't even buy their own groceries, even their basic human interactions with the world are so far from the common man they shouldn't even be given a voice in the matter at all. Alec Baldwin will never take the 105 freeway and get off at Wilmington exit in Los Angeles, I'd be surprised he even pumps his own gasoline. I think when anyone who lived in the real world and appreciated their right to a constitutional guarantee they would be allowed to protect themselves and their loved ones when they couldn't afford to keep private security detail on retainer Like Baldwin, heard the same faggot trying to take away their rights killed someone out of negligence the only natural response is to want to see him fry. We all know had he been some random asshole who thought the gun was unloaded and killed someone the DA would have him sit in jail, to be raped by niggers weekly until they figured out if they should/could have charged him in the first place. Its been so long I forgot this mess happened back in October of 2021, I have a very low opinion of DA's I think they all pretend to be this infallible moral compass but, every fucking time there is a high profile shooting in the U.S. it's handled very differently because of public attention either over-prosecution or under-prosecution. The basis for the U.S. legal system is all accused are to be treated equally and it couldn't be further from the truth, I'm dying to hear the official explanation as to what exactly came to light about this situation that warranted dropping the charges and then applying them again years later. The cynical me wonders if Baldwin had promised something to the City that was not made good on, that check for 5 million donated to the Bonanza policeman's retirement fund got lost in the mail, maybe? I get the feeling a decade from now someone will write a book that maybe gets to the truth why this is being handled so poorly. Hollywood has a long long history of getting away with literal rape and murder. It would be nice to see them held accountable for once but, keep in mind even Cosby got away with it for decades, he was only brought down due to public concern, new evidence was the motivating factor.
Sources claim DA told Hanna Reed, explain the live ammo on set or we're throwing you under the bus with Baldwin
I'm getting a lot of "danger hair" "thot" tone from just the optics available online here. Not sure if I'd trust this person with feeding my dog let alone to ensure firearm safe handling. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm getting a lot of "girl power" and "If I were a man , you wouldn't be asking me if I'm sure these guns were loaded" vibes. Maybe I'm projecting, maybe I'm buying into propaganda produced by the Baldwin defense team to get ahead of public prosecution which is almost the same thing as criminal these days.
I've stated it's a pointless personal policy to want to agree with everything your favorite artist/actor/creative says over politics and such, that being said Hollywood has been preaching anti 2A rhetoric for at least the last 30-40 years but, glamorizing, promoting and even applying the "talking points" of the people they openly oppose directly into the plot of their films. Alec Baldwin and many other people hardly qualified to have an opinion worth repeating are being given this platform as if they have some kind of criminology/sociology background. In reality they are just narcissists who don't even buy their own groceries, even their basic human interactions with the world are so far from the common man they shouldn't even be given a voice in the matter at all. Alec Baldwin will never take the 105 freeway and get off at Wilmington exit in Los Angeles, I'd be surprised he even pumps his own gasoline. I think when anyone who lived in the real world and appreciated their right to a constitutional guarantee they would be allowed to protect themselves and their loved ones when they couldn't afford to keep private security detail on retainer Like Baldwin, heard the same faggot trying to take away their rights killed someone out of negligence the only natural response is to want to see him fry. We all know had he been some random asshole who thought the gun was unloaded and killed someone the DA would have him sit in jail, to be raped by niggers weekly until they figured out if they should/could have charged him in the first place. Its been so long I forgot this mess happened back in October of 2021, I have a very low opinion of DA's I think they all pretend to be this infallible moral compass but, every fucking time there is a high profile shooting in the U.S. it's handled very differently because of public attention either over-prosecution or under-prosecution. The basis for the U.S. legal system is all accused are to be treated equally and it couldn't be further from the truth, I'm dying to hear the official explanation as to what exactly came to light about this situation that warranted dropping the charges and then applying them again years later. The cynical me wonders if Baldwin had promised something to the City that was not made good on, that check for 5 million donated to the Bonanza policeman's retirement fund got lost in the mail, maybe? I get the feeling a decade from now someone will write a book that maybe gets to the truth why this is being handled so poorly. Hollywood has a long long history of getting away with literal rape and murder. It would be nice to see them held accountable for once but, keep in mind even Cosby got away with it for decades, he was only brought down due to public concern, new evidence was the motivating factor.
Romulus augustulus
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what is S&W teasing? the cynic in me predicts a new line of branded hunting gear. the optimist sees the imagery and hopes for a single action revolver (maybe they'll bring back the new model 3?) or more likely some sort of hunting oriented boltgun or shotgun.
imagery suggests cowboy gun?
I'm not getting my hopes up. I've learned better. I keep hope that manufacturers are starting to think that tactishit is getting oversaturated but i doubt it.
imagery suggests cowboy gun?
I'm not getting my hopes up. I've learned better. I keep hope that manufacturers are starting to think that tactishit is getting oversaturated but i doubt it.
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The was the logic behind the illegal alien that murdered Kate Steinle.
That the gun fired on its own, and the San Francisco jury bought it.
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Get on that 6 ARC faggotry with me and some other folks.
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Going out tonight for white tail. Out of the piles of things I own I find my most favorite is my most handy.
I'll be taking my FR8. Love that girl.
I'll be taking my FR8. Love that girl.
Romulus augustulus
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I guarantee that Alec had that same opinion and its what lead to the killing in the first place. if you don't respect the gun you will ND.
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All those GWOT vets got screwed by the MIC and US Military.
Turns out there is an ACOG scope powered by a battery that also allows change to brightness.
Instead of relyimg on tritium and the Sun's mood that day.
Turns out there is an ACOG scope powered by a battery that also allows change to brightness.
Instead of relyimg on tritium and the Sun's mood that day.
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Tacticool revolver? Maybe they're putting out their own lever gun for some reason.
This year I wanna try doing more long distance shooting so I'm putting together a 22 rifle I can use in an NRL22 match. Pretty sure I'm going with a 16" Tikka T1X since I'd wanna run it with a suppressor pretty much always. Think with a Bushnell Match Pro it should squeak by into the the base category, though from what I've read that doesn't really matter unless you're a serious competitor.
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The way I heard it talked about, supposedly there was a previous set armorer before her, and that they walked together with a lot of other crew in protest over repeated and grievous safety violations, and that there had been a high number of accidents already.
Then this girl, who's the daughter of a seasoned movie armorer, was brought in more or less so that Alec Baldwin could claim that he had an armorer, as studio and insurance policy demands it. Conditions didn't improve, and ridiculously irresponsible shit kept going like usual, such as keeping live ammunition on set, storing it next to the guns and blanks, and random people apparently having free access to the guns, going and plinking with them between shoots.
One point I saw repeated was that she allegedly tried to improve conditions on set, but was cockblocked by Baldwin somehow, and that his lawyers are now throwing her under the bus. I'm most skeptical of this part, but who knows.
Take all of that shit with a grain of salt, because that's just rumors I've seen for a while. One thing I learned though is that Pietta's Colt 1873 clones, especially older vintages without the transfer bar (which the gun from the incident is), have some known occasional issues with the hammer not properly engaging the sear. In that sense, Baldwin may not have pulled the trigger as he claims, though this changes nothing for his overall culpability.
I won't expect anything cool like that.
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Are east german aks any good? I've heared there well made and there's one at my local shop. Parts kits are like 2k and the one for sale is 1700
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i don't know about that, i've tried the LED ACOG when i saw some on UK rifles and i prefer the tritium one, and so do many others. the TA-01-NSN is popular for that exact reason even after the battery ACOGS and VCOGS became a thing. batteries were hard to come by and often the reticle was too bright anyway - have to tape down the fiber optic a bit to reduce the brightness especially if you are aiming into a dark area. the etching works fine from bright areas into other bright areas, so that was never a problem.
yes, very. there are some parts floating around and a few parts are unique, but still standardized and compatible with normal AKM parts.
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My reasoning for the battery over tritium is that once the tritium runs out, my understanding is that it will have to be replaced and what happens if Trijicon goes out of business.
Compared to a battery powered where AA batteries are not going away any time soon.
And as you said about the taping down, that I guess it would be easier just to dial the brightness down.
I guess that I am seeing this from the POV of a consumer but given how much the government spent on expensive toilets and unused military bases in Afghanistan, they could spare some expense to give people some AA batteries.
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they are nice but for what people want for them you're paying for the pedigree rather than the gun. same for Russian AK's.
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They're definitely good parts kits, who's the builder of the rifle you see though. I know Atlantic was selling DDR builds a couple years ago that were decent builds, I had one for a bit and it was a great shooter. Builder quality is the more important thing to look at with a parts kit AK if you wanna use it as a shooter.
From a consumer perspective, batteries make more sense than tritium that needs to be replaced like every 10 years but the manufacturer will probably stop doing eventually. From a logistics perspective though, can see why they'd want a system with no batteries. Also I'd assume that most optics the military uses get absolutely wrecked before the tritium ever needs to be replaced.
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Well my understanding is the armorer not only works on set for safety and proper use but also supplies the live fire props themselves and the blanks. I agree with you this is all speculation but, unless something funny was going on, and I'm not saying it's not possible. I think she supplied the revolvers, she supplied the blanks and she also brought the live cartridges to the set. The story I heard is they were all having fun going over the hill adjacent to the set and loading live ammo and shooting cans or something. For me simply the idea live cartridges were brought on set, that could be fired by a gun to be used as a prop, was dumb beyond words. If she actually did that I'm very hesitant to believe anything she has to say afterwards about trying to insist upon proper safety protocol and being denied by anyone on set who outranked her. If that were the case, and she saw something not safe happening she should have given a clear ultimatum and if necessary took her guns and left the set.
Regarding the transfer bar, sear,
I would like to think have a very extensive background in gunsmithing, I've built maybe 8-9 guns from scratch at this point including 2 revolvers. This is my .02 on the matter of a gun safety malfunction/engineering fault: With or without the transfer bar the kinetic energy must exist in the form of the hammer smacking that primer. A revolver with the hammer down and zero kinetic energy will never fire, if it lacks a transfer bar and you hit the hammer with say a claw hammer at the right angle and hard enough there is a possibility it may fire but, it's not going to go off accidentally. If you draw back the hammer partially and release it before sear engagement but after full cylinder rotation it's possible. There is a very slim margin there, maybe 1/4" of travel in the "danger zone"? Depending on the revolver itself. If the revolver is slammed/dropped at the perfect angle this might be enough, every now and then some asshole would use the butt of a revolver as a hammer driving in a thumb tack and cause a negligent discharge, taking off a finger or two. These are specific situations requiring kinetic energy, if Baldwin said he dropped the gun that would maybe apply but, by all accounts there was no sudden jarring of the gun, it never left his hand. If his thumb slipped and the hammer fell (going off half cocked as hey say) before sear engagement that would still require him to intentionally draw back the hammer in preparation for firing. The only possible thing is a sear failure. This also requires an external influence like cocking the hammer and dropping or slamming the gun at a perfect angle. There has been a fierce debate for decades between attorneys for firearms manufacturers and the engineers, the attorneys demand a trigger stiff enough to not be set off by something unintentional, the engineer demands a light crisp short pull of the trigger. They both tend to agree the thing needs to be relatively shock proof. Remington got into a shitstorm by having some of the 700 series leave the factory with a defective safety mechanism, it's possible there was a sear issue in some piettas. Anything is possible after all. The 700 situation was common enough to become a shitstorm and well known disaster in the firearms community. I don't know much about reproduction pietta revolvers but, I'm sure they have attorneys like everyone else making certain they don't make something that will end in lawsuits. My point being is if pietta had a known sear engagement issue I haven't heard of it.
Ultimately what matters is what I am reading is the FBI inspected the gun Baldwin killed that woman with and found no mechanical flaws.
"The gun used in the fatal shooting on the "Rust" movie set could not have been fired without pulling the trigger, according to an FBI forensic report obtained Friday by ABC News"
FBI concludes revolver not at fault
From the sounds of things the gun even had that transfer bar if the FBI firearms lab is to be taken literally. For me when I read Baldwin allegedly said "how about I just fucking shoot the both of you" or something similar the logical conclusion is, if he raised, aimed, cocked and fired his revolver at the victims it was intentional, maybe and I mean maybe he wasn't planning on pulling the trigger but he wanted to be dramatic and do everything but, that specific scenario he's still very culpable and would still be responsible if he engaged the trigger intentionally or otherwise. I don't believe Baldwin wanted to kill or harm anyone, I fully believe he aimed/fired what he thought was a pistol without projectiles that ended up killing someone.
The Nevada definition of second degree Murder fits perfectly. No planning but, willful reckless behavior resulted in death.
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Yeah looks messy and someone will take the fall for a many many failure list.
Aside that no luck hunting. Semi sad, super drunk. I did mag dump into a dead tree because why not?
Lastly I didn't shoot or drive drunk. I'm a responsible retard.
Aside that no luck hunting. Semi sad, super drunk. I did mag dump into a dead tree because why not?
Lastly I didn't shoot or drive drunk. I'm a responsible retard.
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i mean, i get where you're coming from, but a 8-10 year life span is the half-life of brightness and in multiple war zones and a few hostile non-permissive environments where i've an ACOG, the tritium was too bright anyway, so a well used tritium capsule isn't that big of a deal in my experience (although your mileage may vary). by the time i feel i would need a new capsule it'd be 15+ years and i wouldn't mind being the same optic. besides you can augment the tritium with a mini-chemlight taped to it too which i've done at night to work with a PVS.
i don't use a Elcan Spectre because they tend to rattle apart unless it's the fixed power version (C79, M145, et c), but i've had very good luck with ACOGs despite the tritium, and for the times a battery optic was good, i've used an Aimpoint with magnifier or an Eotech with Magnifier. both suck because they're heavy, bulky, and awkward imho, but they work and work reliably. also most of us standardized on the CR123A, some kind of lithium LR6 (from either Saft or Bentronics), and/or rarely consumer AA lithium in a few items.
i think for a home gamer or some small departments that want to standardize on a battery type, and that battery is a quality LR6, then go for what works for you.
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I think the case is gonna hinge on Baldwin saying that he had no idea they had gotten a complete nepotism hire for the set armorer. From the actor's perspective it's not their job to ensure that the weapon is loaded with blanks since the armorer is supposed to just hand them a gun they've verified as safe.
Though on that procedure, I think it's a bit ridiculous that standard practice in Hollywood is to just tell someone that the actual gun is completely safe to fire instead of the actor doing a cursory glance to make sure it's actually loaded with blanks. That just leads to how you can handle that one mission in Hitman: Blood Money where someone eventually "accidentally" puts in real bullets. Then again they're all liberal bastards and I'm sure the idea of touching a gun is basically pure poison to em so they don't want to learn even the basics of operating a firearm.
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Romulus augustulus
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A SAA without transfer bar will fire if you wack the hammer with a a piece wood every time. doesn't even have to be that hard. this was harder to do in the 19th century because their primers were very hard back then. on the colt 1878 double action arm the main spring had to be so hard to detonate the primers that the trigger pull was made nigh unshootable.
The gun in the shooting was a Pietta SAA clone without a transfer bar (Pietta's and Ubertis are complete clones of the colt) from what information i can gather.