Eugenia Cooney - Youtube's Reigning uwu Cute, Emo ana-chan Supreme, had a child molester for a discord moderator

For example, the YT user Parispoptart is in the depths of her Anorexia, but her content focuses on trying to overcome it and even though it's clear she's not making much headway, she's acknowledged her issues and is showing that she's trying to beat it.

This is a side note, but Paris is not actually trying to beat her eating disorder and has been making content out of it for years. She's been a feature on the LC pro-ana threads since very early on (if not the actual beginning). She's bizarre and does have a legit head injury (from a previous suicide attempt, where she jumped from a bridge), but she's got no interest in getting better. To try to tie this back in to Eugenia, her family is also odd, and her mom has been filming her food dances for years.
 
This is a side note, but Paris is not actually trying to beat her eating disorder and has been making content out of it for years. She's been a feature on the LC pro-ana threads since very early on (if not the actual beginning). She's bizarre and does have a legit head injury (from a previous suicide attempt, where she jumped from a bridge), but she's got no interest in getting better. To try to tie this back in to Eugenia, her family is also odd, and her mom has been filming her food dances for years.
That's interesting because I only ever see Paris's yt videos where she's challenging her fear foods. I don't want to derail this thread too much, but can you link more info on her?
 
That's interesting because I only ever see Paris's yt videos where she's challenging her fear foods. I don't want to derail this thread too much, but can you link more info on her?
She does supposedly challenge fear foods, but she's been doing it performatively for years and years without ever gaining weight. It's kind of her signature, at this point: she'll eat the fear food, do a weird little dance, and her mom will film it. This goes back at least 6-7 years, that I'm aware of.

However, her footprint is a little harder to see right now because her original Instagram account, parismelodyraven, got deleted a few years back, when Instagram was being super-strict with the anorexia content (notably, Eugenia didn't face the same consequences as many of the other anorexia accounts did). Her original Instagram account was years and years and years worth of this, but it's all gone now . . . except for the extensive amounts that are archived on the other farms.

I've dug up some stuff, but you can find even more if you search for "paris melody raven" or "parismelodyraven" + lolcow. Someone tried to start a thread entirely devoted to her about six years ago. If you ctrl+f on this thread for "paris," you'll find a lot of mentions of her behavior from 6+ years ago. She's all over their threads, to this day, because she's always been very immersed in the Instagram anorexia community.

Like Eugenia, she somehow seems to avoid treatment, which is odd because she's in the UK (and theoretically subject to sectioning). Her mother either apparently actively enables or is just resigned to this behavior. I think I may have posted about Paris previously in the pro-ana thread here, but I could be wrong.

Also like Eugenia, her mom is her camera man. She does have a sibling, but the sibling is mostly off-camera.

Let me know if you want me to try to find more, and I'll post it in the pro-ana thread here, so I don't derail the Eugenia thread too much. For purposes of this thread, I'll say that I do think it's interesting that Eugenia avoided the crackdown that resulted in a lot of the Instagram anorexics either losing their accounts or having a warning placed on absolutely everything they post. It was happening even with posts that just showed exceedingly thin random girls, but Eugenia continued to let it all hang out and didn't get censored the same way.

Paris has also lost her TikTok several times (and threatens suicide each time), but TikTok's bans seem pretty random anyway. I'll be interested to see if TikTok sticks to their guns with Eugenia's demonetization.
 
I wish it were still possible. Thanks Reagan.

European's still don't get this lol. People are always asking "why isn't she put In a hospital".

A few years ago I read about what happened with the NIMH during that era and it was pretty damn shocking and sad. Especially when people actually got help - but after Reagan it was pretty much over. Just done.
 
Can any one of y'all expand on the reagan thing briefly? What happened there?
I'm a europoor, I don't know.
The TL/DR is that in the 60s and 70s the US faced dwindling resources for behavioral health, you had these massive institutions (most being their own little cloistered communities) that were getting just a scant amount of state funding, so shit was falling apart. Most mentally ill people went to live in state hospitals for a time before an attempt at reintegration into society, hospitals were constantly under staffed and over filled.

During that time there were numerous exposés into just how bad things were, most notably Willowbrook, and the idea of institutionalization as a negative entered the popular conscious with things like One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.

The government’s solution? Reform? Nah. They decided to move to ‘community based’ care, and shuttered the once massive hospitals, tossing everyone out on the street. For many, like those with MDD or OCD, this was a positive, but for those with more serious diseases like schizophrenia, it was basically a death sentence because it meant that they had nowhere to go. Mental health became privatized, the pharmaceutical companies bribed shrinks into mostly relying on meds. Everyone suffered.

Mental health care in the US is amongst some of the worst in the developed world, but that’s not saying much, because it is severely lacking in many industrialized countries.
 
If she wants to kill herself she shouldn't draw it out. If she doesn't, then why is she doing what she's doing?
Whether Eugenia wants to die or not is beyond me, but Eugenia does what she does for attention first and foremost.

It's quite possible her ED is her reason for living, as dark as that sounds. She needs to be seen and it's why she goes into stores and makes videos for TikTok/YouTube while her mother films her; having someone film you in a store attracts attention no matter who you are because it's not really normal, and her appearance probably exaggerates it because the way she looks is also not normal. She's addicted to the shock that other people feel when they see her body. She's addicted to having everyone react to her the way that they do, whether it's with outright hate or heartfelt empathy. It's kind of like the concept that, "Any/all attention is good attention," or that if you want a bully to stop the bullying, that you have to quit reacting to what they're doing because they're only doing it to you because they want to see your reaction and get a rise out of you. Eating disorders can make a person extremely delusional, so this will not make sense to most people. Eugenia's been doing this for almost her entire life so her delusions and behavioral patterns with food are most likely all but engraved in the tissue of her brain. It's why I believe she will never recover.

Her need for attention started on her YouNow streams. At least I think that's the platform she used. In spite of her passive-aggressive tone when she'd read mean messages during her YouNow streams teasing or bullying her for her thin appearance, it's likely she enjoyed that someone wrote that message in her chat so that she could read it aloud and get sympathy from her audience for receiving hate, as well as drawing more attention to how she looks and affirming/validating what other people think of her appearance. She wants to see how people will react. Eating disorders are competitive by nature, so sufferers may go to irrational lengths to draw out the validation they feel like they need about the way they look from people around them. The worst part about this kind of behavior is that ED sufferers may double down on their restricting behaviors if there is no reaction, whether this is real or perceived, so it's an aggressive self-destructive situation that can snowball. So the whole "don't react," thing isn't that simple - I'm telling you, delusional. I don't even mean that as an insult.

ED's are multifaceted; rarely is there one sole reason that a person starts developing these behaviors. We can speculate for the rest of time and never know the true reason behind why Eugenia started, or how. She has mentioned that she was bullied a lot before she was pulled from public schools, so that definitely could have helped spawn it as a teen, but you would normally expect for people to outgrow things like that as they mature. Something tells me Eugenia has not been starving herself for over a decade all because a couple of tweeny-bopper bullies told her that, "fat isn't beautiful," and/or that, "you're too fat," when she was thirteen. Call it common sense. People with ED's are like autistic people, though. They can be wildly different and individual to the person.
 
I don't think anyone with ED wants to kill themselves. Where's the evidence? First of all it's mental illness so the sufferers don't exactly choose to have them, despite how angry this makes people in YouTube comments. The problem is they can choose whether to try to get better, and that isn't easy but they acknowledge they'll die if they don't get better. That's not enough for the mind to change its way of behaving.

Do smokers just want to kill themselves slowly over 50-70 years? No. It's the high, and the addiction. Smokers chose to start smoking and choose not to quit. They know they will die.

Eating a lot or not eating at all both cause highs of their own and the mental illness is the motivator. They don't want to die; they can't break free of the addiction. It's simply not that easy
 
I don't think anyone with ED wants to kill themselves. Where's the evidence? First of all it's mental illness so the sufferers don't exactly choose to have them
Part of the reason anorexia has the highest mortality of all mental illnesses is due to suicide. There's plenty of research about it, for example this.

I do accept your point that people with EDs don't want to kill themselves through their behaviours, and don't have much choice about whether to do them, particularly as the ED gets more entrenched. Even if they hate the ED and want to overcome it, the mental toll of not doing the behaviours is exceptionally high, which is why recovery is so hard. Doing something that your head is shouting at you not to do and will punish you for with further shouting is very difficult.

Whether they want to die from their ED probably varies. I'm sure there are some who want it to take them.
 
The TL/DR is that in the 60s and 70s the US faced dwindling resources for behavioral health, you had these massive institutions (most being their own little cloistered communities) that were getting just a scant amount of state funding, so shit was falling apart. Most mentally ill people went to live in state hospitals for a time before an attempt at reintegration into society, hospitals were constantly under staffed and over filled.

During that time there were numerous exposés into just how bad things were, most notably Willowbrook, and the idea of institutionalization as a negative entered the popular conscious with things like One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.

The government’s solution? Reform? Nah. They decided to move to ‘community based’ care, and shuttered the once massive hospitals, tossing everyone out on the street. For many, like those with MDD or OCD, this was a positive, but for those with more serious diseases like schizophrenia, it was basically a death sentence because it meant that they had nowhere to go. Mental health became privatized, the pharmaceutical companies bribed shrinks into mostly relying on meds. Everyone suffered.

Mental health care in the US is amongst some of the worst in the developed world, but that’s not saying much, because it is severely lacking in many industrialized countries.

I remember watching girl interrupted (set in the 1960's) and being just shocked at how extensive psychiatric care used to be in the U.S. there was an Anorexic woman in the film (who was a real patient as the film was based on a biographical account) who wasn't even allowed to be released until she gained enough weight and recovered psychologically. They did NOT release people until they were capable of functioning in the world and there was mandatory out patient follow up too. What a different world.
 
"What do you mean the government isn't allowed to lock you away indefinitely if you're doing something they don't like? Barbaric Americans"
That's a strawman. Even anti-institutionalization advocates acknowledge that how inaccessible and expensive outpatient care is is bad. Some people that are extremely mentally ill or retarded should be institutionalized, it's better than living on the streets and attacking innocent people in tardrage. Also, at least me and @Sweetpeaa are Canadian.
 
You still can't just force people into institutions because you don't approve of their lifestyle. Ok so we should just lock up all smokers, alcoholics, drug users, people with ED, all mental illnesses, learning disabilities, crippled, blind, deaf, whatever you can come up with. Regardless of your opinion of the law in the US, the patient has to be a direct and present danger to themselves or others. Otherwise go ahead and throw the whole world into a ward if you want, there won't be anyone left after you've put away everyone you disagree with. Someone is going to have a problem with some nasty habit you have too, so don't think it won't apply to you.
 
Some people that are extremely mentally ill or retarded should be institutionalized, it's better than living on the streets and attacking innocent people in tardrage.
This. Libya only has two major psychiatric centers, and we’re still institution based. The majority of people who go there only stay for a short time before reintegration. Unfortunately there’s still lots of stigma surrounding severe mental illness, and people are more likely to get kicked out on the street if the family’s prayers aren’t getting rid of the ‘demons’ in the mind. In this way institutions function as a network of safety nets to keep vulnerable individuals from dying of heatstroke under an overpass. It also helps with illnesses that are manageable, but require intensive treatment, like BPD or EDs.

The amount of tards and schizos who die alone and terrified in the US is sad and preventable.
 
I don't think anyone with ED wants to kill themselves. Where's the evidence? First of all it's mental illness so the sufferers don't exactly choose to have them, despite how angry this makes people in YouTube comments. The problem is they can choose whether to try to get better, and that isn't easy but they acknowledge they'll die if they don't get better. That's not enough for the mind to change its way of behaving.

Do smokers just want to kill themselves slowly over 50-70 years? No. It's the high, and the addiction. Smokers chose to start smoking and choose not to quit. They know they will die.

Eating a lot or not eating at all both cause highs of their own and the mental illness is the motivator. They don't want to die; they can't break free of the addiction. It's simply not that easy
I'll offer an opposite view- eating disorders are a symptom of being suicidal. This is purely antecdotal, I have no sources to back this up so take it with a grain of salt.

Of the people in known families, in my personal experience, about 1 in 3 people who were suicidal had an eating disorder. Most were also fairly young when they had ED's, as well as the signs of depression.
Of those, all of those with an ED were extremely suicidal and looking to punish themselves for simply existing. This makes sense because one of those anorexic kids is a pooner. They get addicted to the pain, and rationalize why it's deserved. I've talked with the pooner before, she rationalizes that destroying her body will give her a more masculine appearance. That's the surface excuse. In reality, she grew up in an abusive home and seems to be suffering from some kind of bipolar or personality disorder. Her brother regularly expresses concern over "him", and is incredibly protective, sonce it seems this fix is the only superficial thing they can see as helping them.
The most common places you will see this disorder are in artists, actors, musicians and models, all very high stress careers (even if successful) and are each known for an abnormally large percentage of suicidal individuals.
You have to almost not care about living if you're anorexic, it takes commitment to willingly starve every day. Even if it gives pleasure responses, the pain of it should be more than enough to make you lapse at least to a semi decent weight and fast for a couple days, not regularly restrict over the course of years until your organs are breaking down.

Again, take with a mountain of salt for my conjecture, it just seems much, much more likely to have this disorder when suicidal. Especially Eugina, you cannot look at that girl and tell me she has any desire to live. Even at her happiest, her eyes are dead.

For a small power level- for me personally, I had the disorder and was determined to not live past 23, quite a few people I knew during that time had similar goals until they got help, and then the anorexia very slowly shifted to becoming overweight (because you tend to eat more when you're happier) this would cause a relapse, people would stop the medication, and the anorexia would come back.
(This might be confusing to people who also never had depression or known someone very well with it, they tend to search out others with depression or depression-like tendencies, common markers to look out for are putting everyone else above themself, stretching themselves to help others to their detriment, becoming reserved or "off" for days at a time, then regularly not responding, or seeming to respond like a robot with short, simple answers. You may not notice this if you aren't close, they're very subtle and will do their damnest to hide it from even the closest of friends. They will also regularly over work themselves with excuses like "oh I just need the money", "I like being busy", "they need the help". Finally, you won't hear them talk about their life very negatively very often, and when it slips, it's only complaining. This is usually in the midst of a depression episode where they see no good in the world. People with severe depression are very guarded about letting anyone know what they're actually feeling or have an opinion on, but are very good at redirecting to a different topic. They'll often turn it around to ask how you're doing or what's going on in your own life, or talk about someone elses life instead of their own.)
 
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