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Chinese Communist Party Megathread - Cold War 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Looking at what was reported, I agree that it probably isn't propaganda: it is probably Bloomberg reporting information incorrectly.
This has been reported by multiple news sources, all of whom cite the original Bloomberg (paywall) news article that cited no source other than "US Intelligence." I don't believe that the PLA Rocket Force has been loading up missiles with water in order to sell to ???? for a few different reasons:
1.) The only way you'd pass off water for rocket fuel is in a liquid-fueled rocket. Even then, you do not generally store fueled liquid-fueled rockets, because the liquid fuel deteriorates rapidly. For example, the North Koreans have been working towards developing reliable solid-fuel rockets, because they do not require fueling before launch. Most of China's current nuclear deterrent are solid-fueled rockets, which are all road-mobile or submarine-launched. You cannot replace the solid propellent out of these rockets and replace it with water and hope that anyone with two brain cells to rub together won't notice it.
2.) As above, an overwhelming majority of China's ballistic missile component are solid-fueled road-mobile or submarine-launched missiles. The only silo-based ballistic missile I'm aware of that's in use is the Dong Feng-5, in which there are approximately ten still in use. These were all built in the 1980s, with some of them upgraded within the past twenty some-odd years. These very likely had maintenance issues with their silo doors after so long. The Air Force had the same issue with Minuteman silos back in 2013.
3.) I'm not even sure who or how they would sell liquid-fuel for rockets in the first place. The domestic Chinese market has become very reticent on assisting in graft regarding the PLA, especially after 2021 when Norinco's chief Yin Jiaxu was arrested for accepting bribes. While completely possible, the logistics of this don't make sense to me.
Here's what I think is happening:
Xi Jinping has been spearheading a drive against 'corruption' since he became General Secretary. While a lot of this has been political maneuvering against his proponents, there is a markedly lower level of corruption and graft in China since 2018: I still remember how 'training centers' in the early 2010s would openly bribe PSB officials to allow westerners in without degrees (or Russians or Poles who didn't even speak English) to 'teach English.' Bribing officials to pass the driver's license test (which used to be administered in Chinese only) or for car plates for the city you live in for cheap was also rampant. These sorts of things really don't happen very much anymore.
I believe there likely were maintenance issues with the DF-5 missile silos; those are very old silos and the missiles themselves are getting up in age. It would not surprise me if some silo doors were malfunctioning or the liquid propellant in storage had gone bad and never been replaced. Nobody probably cared, because the DF-5's usefulness in an actual nuclear war would be to sit and be a giant target to soak up an enemy strike, while more modern systems like the road-mobile DF-41 are used. This probably was common knowledge amongst senior Rocket Force commanders and nobody gave a shit, because those rockets just weren't worth pumping more money into.
Which gave Xi Jinping an easy excuse to arrest/sack senior leadership who likely had sympathies (real or imagined) with Li Keqiang. These arrests happened about the same time that Li Keqiang died of a heart attack in October. I don't believe that to be a coincidence.
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To be honest my impression is corruption across the board is still rampant, and most of the anti-corruption push basically just made everyone terrified to ever report bad news to him. He can of course fabricate claims against someone regardless, they just will usually err on the side of lying even if they didnt engage in corruption, which is itself a short road to skimming some off the top anyways.
It would be up to the quality and loyalty of his investigative aparatus as to how much real corruption was actually being found, and I don't think there is any way to know that. Default state is mediocrity so I assume that until proven otherwise.
It would be up to the quality and loyalty of his investigative aparatus as to how much real corruption was actually being found, and I don't think there is any way to know that. Default state is mediocrity so I assume that until proven otherwise.
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CCP twats demand a piano player in a public place stop filming because they were in the background (in Britain)
And now they want it removed from the Internet.
And now they want it removed from the Internet.
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So about the "Rockets full of water" thing. I've heard that "Full of water" is a Chinese euphemism for corruption and graft. So the missiles wouldn't literally be full of water.
@The Demon Pimp of Razgriz
So about the "Rockets full of water" thing. I've heard that "Full of water" is a Chinese euphemism for corruption and graft. So the missiles wouldn't literally be full of water.
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You heard, huh? I'd say your bucket's half-full.
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Take it or leave it
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I'll do you one better, by quoting something located right beneath the opening paragraph (in other words, you're right--but do your due dilligence).
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CCP, and in general chicom ideology, whatever the fuck they brand it now, is likely the most schizophrenical ideology that ever existed, next only to the Germna national socialism. They claim to be the avantgarde of modern socialism, hard line communist, glory to Chairman Mao, yet chink system has literally nothing in common with Marx delusions or any communist sytem, be it Cuba, DDR or Cold War Albania.
They have no problem with online gambling (gacha crap), they dont give a shit about providing housing an heathcare (or any social security), leaving shitton of people homeless, on a scale unseen in any Eastern Bloc country (or commie utopia). Labor strikes are bordeline illegal - that would not be problem, same was in all commie shitholes, but it applies to private companies as well - chicoms have no problem with bourgeoisie capitalists exploiting proletarians 12h a day, 6 days per week. Private companies existed in Soviet bloc as well, but they were primarily very small, if not downright microscopic. In chinkland, we have absurdly huge privately owned corporations (Tencent, Alibaba) or just all kinds of EV startups. All in a communist country.
Materialism is embraced - for example, if you dont have a fancy ass smartphone (fucking iPhones are the most fashionable, some slant sold his kidney for one), youre almost dead as everything is digital and chinks are terminally online. Youth unemployment and NEETdom is massive, and unemployment is something soviet commies deemed unacceptable - everybody had a job in a communist state, if not say hi to polar bears. Keep in mind - chinkoid govermnment is fine with spending absurd portion of GDP just on surveillance, social credit system and possibly the most overgrown and brutal police force on the world ready to react in a heartbeat to anything Party dont likes (like any critic). So they have all the power they need to fix their societal problem Mao-style.
Also in relation to gacha/phone addiction, CCP really likes to promote nationalism, death to Japanese Satan etc. Sad that chinks consoom japanese culture to no end, their shitty ass mobile games are heavily animu-inspired, down to featuring a voice acting in Japanese (one of the very few exceptions is genshit). Cosplaying a current seasonal japanese tranime waifu is perfectly acceptable as well, with cosplay in general being heavily popular in china. Again, all reaching totalitarian surveilance is yet to bully a single chink weeb. Meanwhile, Best Korea executes middle schoolers for peeping on South Korean dramas.
TL;DR: chicom system is absurdly self-contradictory. what I've shat out is only a few examples of that.
They have no problem with online gambling (gacha crap), they dont give a shit about providing housing an heathcare (or any social security), leaving shitton of people homeless, on a scale unseen in any Eastern Bloc country (or commie utopia). Labor strikes are bordeline illegal - that would not be problem, same was in all commie shitholes, but it applies to private companies as well - chicoms have no problem with bourgeoisie capitalists exploiting proletarians 12h a day, 6 days per week. Private companies existed in Soviet bloc as well, but they were primarily very small, if not downright microscopic. In chinkland, we have absurdly huge privately owned corporations (Tencent, Alibaba) or just all kinds of EV startups. All in a communist country.
Materialism is embraced - for example, if you dont have a fancy ass smartphone (fucking iPhones are the most fashionable, some slant sold his kidney for one), youre almost dead as everything is digital and chinks are terminally online. Youth unemployment and NEETdom is massive, and unemployment is something soviet commies deemed unacceptable - everybody had a job in a communist state, if not say hi to polar bears. Keep in mind - chinkoid govermnment is fine with spending absurd portion of GDP just on surveillance, social credit system and possibly the most overgrown and brutal police force on the world ready to react in a heartbeat to anything Party dont likes (like any critic). So they have all the power they need to fix their societal problem Mao-style.
Also in relation to gacha/phone addiction, CCP really likes to promote nationalism, death to Japanese Satan etc. Sad that chinks consoom japanese culture to no end, their shitty ass mobile games are heavily animu-inspired, down to featuring a voice acting in Japanese (one of the very few exceptions is genshit). Cosplaying a current seasonal japanese tranime waifu is perfectly acceptable as well, with cosplay in general being heavily popular in china. Again, all reaching totalitarian surveilance is yet to bully a single chink weeb. Meanwhile, Best Korea executes middle schoolers for peeping on South Korean dramas.
TL;DR: chicom system is absurdly self-contradictory. what I've shat out is only a few examples of that.
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Chinese governments have always had a weird, autistic fixation about wearing governmental heritage on their sleeves to legitimize themselves, and have always claimed to be of the alumni of whichever major social order or philosophy that came before them (e.g. Confucianism, even Legalism of all things). It's conjecture on my end, but I suspect that the Chinese have been so Buck Broken by Mao that they simply can't imagine themselves descending from another piece of governmental heritage anymore. In truth, China post Mao has embraced prototype forms of neofeudalism down to the notion that "private" property is built upon land leased by regional CCP branches, and contractually seized back a generation later. It's a world where materialism is widely embraced not because it'd actually be a step towards independence, like the Western World, but because it would be what dictates whether you're a peasant or aristocracy across Chinese society. To them, leasing a 15 square-meter bug pod in a 30 floor building is "buying a home" (their words, not mine here); there is no such thing as a middle class in the CCP's current socio-economical model, only levels of clout with your peers.
This also explains away the property bubble there, and why entire tofu cities are built to this very day despite the bubble having burst catastrophically according to what has managed to leak from the Firewall. This also explains away the inceldom there, the especially corrupt and socially incestious hierarchy across elite Chinese spheres, low-trust across Chinese society, and Lie Flat movements: if you're neo-peasantry in China, you have zero social standing, and without social standing there, you'll have zero game with the opposite sex, their families, and I suspect even higher-ed and high-end jobs will be restricted away from you no matter how competent or loyal to social norms you may be. Either way, social climbing is effectively dead under this system somehow, and the only things the average Chinaman has is digital simulacra of reality they most likely don't even own too.
If America is speedrunning decay, then China is speedrunning extinction through existential dead-ends.
TL;DR: China is already living through what the WEF wishes it could force across the West.
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This is possible, as there is a widespread theory that since CCP after Mao's death thought there is no way to legitimize their power, they couldn't fully denounce Mao and communist dialectics. They had no Lenin like Soviets with Stalin, so they still needed a hero figure that only just made some mistakes ("Mao was 70% right, 30% wrong") and pretend they are still communists. It somehow worked, given CCP is still in power.
Funny thing is that they didn't need to do all of that - see Central Asia post-soviet shitholes. All these -stans were ruled by hard-line pro-CCCP communists who, after Yanayew's failed coup, became anti-communist nationalists overnight. And it worked as well, even in Turkmenistan where there was no Islamic insurgency after independence. Their fuhrer, Niyazov, turned Turkmenistan into North Korea with gas reserves, having near god-like cult of personality.
Quite literally. Their population have shrunk for a second year in a row, with fertility rates being less than 1.1, probably even less than 1 in 2023. Just last year, they shrunk by 2.08 million. Fucking state-run Chinese Academy of Sciences sees the pension system running out of money by 2035. And since their health-care is so shit anyway, their death rate already hit the rate last seen during Cultural Revolution. They must go for Taiwan to have a chance at legitimizing themselves.
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Retard gallery so much for "right wing"
Fuck these people.
On related note
China's economy continues tumble, car retailers are going bust, chinks who placed deposits on EVs that are repossessed buyers wasted money and they can't get cars they paid for.
China numba one.
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Anything to stick to Biden and the State Department and the alphabet agencies though, am I right?
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He should outright praise Houti Rebels and suck more CCP talking points and much high speed railways to nowhere and collapse tofu dredge construction
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I was just going to check if someone had posted about this.
Seems the little pinks are getting criticised, even at home.
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I just had to click on this serpentza video:
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To all of the shit that the CCP does (and fails at), at least they did give harsh, but rightful punishment for these two parents that murdered their children by throwing them out a window. It would have been funnier, had they gotten thrown out of a window to death as well, but that will do.
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