[Resolved] Domain Registrar & Epik's Seizure

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Should we sue Epik LLC?

  • Yes, I'll chip in.

    Votes: 1,709 55.2%
  • Yes, but I'm broke.

    Votes: 1,220 39.4%
  • No.

    Votes: 79 2.6%
  • No, but I'll chip in regardless.

    Votes: 86 2.8%

  • Total voters
    3,094
I'd chip in if someone posted an explanation on how to buy crypto somewhere where I don't need to send a photo driver's license to some soy company or somewhere that doesn't look like my money's about to go to a nigerian prince.
Other people will know better but personally I buy BTC from a soy exchange and convert it to XMR using things like fixedfloat.com. XMR is preferable as it doesn't have an open ledger for anyone to read who sent what to who like BTC does. There is localmonero.co but I haven't used it. Can anyone share their experience if they have?
 
Epik LLC has made two claims on X :
1) They were forced to put a clientHold on kiwifarms.net by Law Enforcement, which we evaded by moving the domain out of the country.
2) That the Kiwi Farms "hosts child porn".

These are both false, and these are both instances of actionable per se defamation. The damage of these claims is inherent in the claim and they are already being parroted by adversaries for the purposes of trying to further erode our ability to find stability and sure footing on the Internet.

Epik is a Wyoming LLC, X is a California LLC, and Kiwi Farms is a West Virginia LLC. To pursue this, I would have to find a lawyer in one of these jurisdictions. I don't know any.

Taking a case to trial is at least $75,000. However, they would be able to pay because they are a big company, and this would be an amazing step for being able to show providers: Yes, we are legal, and yes, we are taking steps to remedy actionable defamation to the contrary.

I've put up a poll. I am already dealing with litigation and saving money for another case. Would the community itself actually want to finance litigation?


Edit: I will find a way to get fiat working so you don't need crypto, but special crypto wallets can also be set up.
To Hell with Epik!
 
Again, you may wish to go after a company that exists at the time of filing, has known owners, and more in assets than liabilities (not broke as fuck). Cloudflare, $28 billion marketcap, said Kiwifarms was responsible for "imminent threats to human life" and their termination of the service had your business to go offline. Epik has dwindling money, probably millions owed, and no known owners.
The difference is that Epik said something very actionable. Cloudflare gave a faggoty “oh god someone said a threat! Shut it down!”

Cloudflare cited their AUP and gave a vague response to why. Epik just called Kiwi a kiddy diddler website and that law enforcement told them to dump the website.
 
I'm in. I think we can completely fund this. If people on Patreon/onlyfans can make a 20k a month off a similar fanbase at ~5 usd donations, we should be able to fund this lawsuit.

How many thousands do I have to donate to get a personally signed pic of your feet Josh? Asking for a friend.
 
My prefered form of giving money would be if Null does livestreams where he would play songs or videos for payment. And not small sums. Like 5 bucks per 30 seconds. I think it would attract whales who would pay 500 dollars to play a couple minutes of anime and be peak entertainment.
Force null to suffer for 1000 dollars.
 
My prefered form of giving money would be if Null does livestreams where he would play songs or videos for payment. And not small sums. Like 5 bucks per 30 seconds. I think it would attract whales who would pay 500 dollars to play a couple minutes of anime and be peak entertainment.
till someone pays null the entire lawsuit to review an anime box set
 
By the way, I read the replies of Epik. They sound very weird. Kinda like they had an insider managing their social media who wants to watch the company burn. It's not corporate speech at all. And companies usually don't gloat about this. They just don't respond. Very weird. Still, hope Epik gets crushed.
It's just some millennial Junior Social Media Manager who overdosed on muh irony. Corporations have been doing this shit for at least a decade now, it makes them "relatable" to retards.

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I'm all in favor of Total Retard War but Fong-Jones seems like a better target for a mass site-funded lawsuit. The damages there are incalculable, and he's also a much better villain who would be much funnier to see take the stand.

My concern with defamation is that Epik will make the Rekieta argument: "Yes, we had actual malice. Yes, we knew it was false. Yes, we don't pretend to have ever thought it was true. BUT KiwiFarms is so bad, they're basically undefamable!" It didn't really work out for him, but I can easily see some mongoloid judge nodding along to it, or any other number of retarded reasons why KF is icky and therefore per se defamation isn't relevant.

I guess I just have less than no confidence in the courts. I honestly don't believe that there is any judge in the US who would resist the troon pressure and rule in favor of the Farms, regardless of the facts or law in question. Juries, maybe, but also doubtful. The various lawsuits Josh has faced are different up to this point since they're initiated by other parties, and those other parties are inevitably deranged retards like Greer.

There's no question that those tweets are 100% defamatory, and winning would be huge. But losing would also be really bad, and I'd say is at least 50% likely as a base.
 
View attachment 5658031 on the namepros thread about Epik, the official account is viewing the thread as of 3mins ago. i sure hope epik realizes how much of a fuckup they made going mask off like this publicly. The thread mentions the featured post on KF as of the most recent posts.


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Derek Peterson is a tranny defending niggerfaggot, and has probably always liked sucking little baby cocks. I would not have sex with Derek Peterson.
 
What are the chances that the kiwifarms could even get a fair hearing when lying about the site has always just been seen as permissible? I'm not a mutt so I only see the American justice system from the outside and sometimes I'm incredibly impressed with how fair and open it is and other times I'm just baffled.

Very very likely. What epik did what outright admit in public that they broke the law/contract but knowingly did it. Add on the whole "hosting Child Porn" shit and epik has just committed slander and liable. Which normally is really hard to prove (you have to prove damages and that I knowingly lied to fuck up your reputation). If they only kept their mouth shut they would have been fine. But they in public shot themselves in the mouth to what, one up Josh? Any lawyer would take this case because it is open and shut. What I think Null should do is reach out (or have his legal team reach out) to Ben Shapiro's people. I understand the hold ups but this might be enough of slander to get mainstream right wing support.





 
I'll chip in but I also demand True & Honest fan status for my donation
Agreed.

@Null you may have stolen my avatar, citing egregiously esoteric and downright bamboozingly inconceivable "violence violations", I will support your right to freedom of speech, but I demand a "True and Honest Fan" label.
 
My prefered form of giving money would be if Null does livestreams where he would play songs or videos for payment. And not small sums. Like 5 bucks per 30 seconds. I think it would attract whales who would pay 500 dollars to play a couple minutes of anime and be peak entertainment.
If that's on the table, I'll throw a few bucks so he watches Dio vs Jotaro. Road roller included
 
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Derek Peterson is a tranny defending niggerfaggot, and has probably always liked sucking little baby cocks. I would not have sex with Derek Peterson.
I'm gonna love his kvetching and goal post shifting when Null goes forward "He won't win" "He won't get a retraction in the settlement" "His site's name is still mud".
 
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