Rocksteady teases Suicide Squad game

[xXx: State of the Union]

In what fucking universe?

Literally how, too?

I don't know, I kind of get what they're saying.

Disenfranchised men use the Joker as a symbol in those cringey fucking memes they post on social media all the time.

I don't get why these guys latched themselves to the Joker, but they did. The memes existed long before the 2019 film, and I guess I could get how it would be The Killing Joke based on the whole "One bad day is all it takes" idea, but I honestly think the losers clinging to Joker came about more after The Dark Knight portrayal, which makes me understand it even less.

But since the new film came out, they definitely gravitate more towards using that portrayal in memes.

 

[Left Ass Cheek]

If this game flops especially hard I hope Warner Bros considers moving away from Rocksteady and drops their obsession with the third person sandbox slop genre. Feels like they should be passing the IP around to dev studios who can actually make different types of games given how versatile the Justice League is for gameplay opportunities, not resting on the laurels of Arkham Asylum over a decade later.

 

[Sniperwoof]

If this game flops especially hard I hope Warner Bros considers moving away from Rocksteady and drops their obsession with the third person sandbox slop genre. Feels like they should be passing the IP around to dev studios who can actually make different types of games given how versatile the Justice League is for gameplay opportunities, not resting on the laurels of Arkham Asylum over a decade later.

This isn't a sandbox game though, it's a live service third person over the shoulder shooter.

Apart from being made by the same company it has nothing in common with the Arkham games.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

I don't get why these guys latched themselves to the Joker, but they did. The memes existed long before the 2019 film, and I guess I could get how it would be The Killing Joke based on the whole "One bad day is all it takes" idea, but I honestly think the losers clinging to Joker came about more after The Dark Knight portrayal, which makes me understand it even less.

Watch the interrogation scene from The Dark Knight again, that is where all the Joker society memes began.

The entire scene is Joker describing himself as ahead of the curb, that he knows the true nature of people. Arguments like “They are only as good as the world allows them to be” is the exact rhetoric you would hear within an incel thread. The thing that makes it better is that there are popular theories going off about how the Joker was the hero of TDK. Batman inspired vigilantes that go out and murder people and a mob willing to do anything as they move towards collapse. Joker killed pretty much every threat in Gotham and set them up to have years of peace going by Rises. For the average disenfranchised man, the guy who was right all along and got to go on a revenge tirade is a hero.

 

[PaladinBoo]

This game comes out next Friday and it already has such bad word of mouth. I decided to pull up what the competition will be come February and it is pretty steep. Granblue Fantasy and Persona 3 come out in around the same day as Suicide Squad. Then you have Tomb Raider, Skull & Bones, Mario vs. Donkey Kong, Warhammer, and Final Fantasy 7 all coming out later that month. This game is DOA. It is amazing to me how Rocksteady colossally fucked up with this. A sequel to Arkham Knight should have been the best selling game of, not just February, but of the First Financial Quarter. The only thing people are looking forward with this game is the backlash from the woke Rocksteady employees and Sweet Baby Inc. writers who are all keeping their heads down right now in hopes of weathering the storm.

 

[Picnic_Boy]

It's funny that one of the only comic book media that has maintained any kind of integrity is Heroclix, and that's shameless gacha.

 

[PaladinBoo]

By the way. I'll like to point out that this game doing so bad and being DOA is one of the reason why a rumor is going around that, shortly after the Suicide Squad is released, that DC Comics will be rebooting its universe. This game is going to be the final nail of current DC Comics as David Zaslav told them that if this game fails he wants to see a course correction at DC Comics. Don't think that games like this can't have a lot of influence. Hogwarts Legacy doing so well is what lead Zaslav to bring back the Harry Potter franchise as the game proved that there is still a lot of profit to be made with Harry Potter. Difference between Hogwarts Legacy and Suicide Squad is that Hogwarts Legacy was made by fans who loved Harry Potter and wanted to make a game that life long fans would love. The main writer of Suicide Squad, Grant K. Roberts, talks about how his favorite thing to do as a writer is to piss fans off and make games he works on be wish fulfillment for him and his politics. Why companies keep hiring people like this to work on franchises baffles me.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Hasn't James Gunn made some statement about "the Arkham verse" having some big part in the future of DC, or at least what he controls at DC?

It seems weird they'd have the comics division deviate far from their plans for the films, but with how scattershot everything with DC is I can believe it.

 

[Left Ass Cheek]

This isn't a sandbox game though, it's a live service third person over the shoulder shooter.

Apart from being made by the same company it has nothing in common with the Arkham games.

You’re right, I guess I’m just so conditioned by the vignette of a third person perspective in an action game about superheroes being an indicator of what the level design will be like that I just assume open world sandbox. I don’t know if I should heap the credit on Rocksteady for that exclusively or it’s actually Insomniac’s Spiderman games that are subconciously doing this to me.

I still want something other than this. Have Wayforward do a beat em up or something.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

A sequel to Arkham Knight should have been the best selling game of, not just February, but of the First Financial Quarter.

Blame WB, not RockSteady, or at least, the former RockSteady. This entire idea was DOA given that it was based on Suicide Squad, a property that consistory takes losses outside the Harley merch. It is DC’s most forced brand and I have little idea as to why WB is so hell bent on this IP. We could have gotten so many other DC titles over this and Gotham Knights, but WB’s terrible management forced these products into being. It is no wonder they feel so soulless.

Once again, if WB really wanted to expand Arkham with a lighter multiplayer title, Teen Titans would have been infinitely better to work with. It is a team that people actually care about, that even the women audience they are simping for care about. The story would have been so easy too, just have Dick inherit Bruce’s assets and start a new team while his father is now the shadow figure. Game can take place a year after the formation of the main 5 2003 Titans (it would avoid side kicks from other heroes). Bring DeathStroke back to kill the kiddos as an F’ you to Batman and make it an adult continuation of the 03 show similar to how Arkham was one to BTAS (Would be cool to bring Jason back as Red X for extra fan service). Then, they could expand the roster post launch by introducing popular characters from TT and Young Justice like Wonder Girl, Superboy, Ms. Martian, Kid Flash, Artemis, Bumble Bee, etc.. This would give them a fantastic cast list with unique abilities compared to Suicide Squad.

Superman is obviously what they should have done, but Titans would have been better for what WB was looking for.

As neat as this idea is, I could very easily see a suit going, "What the hell is a 'Kandor'? Superman lives in Metropolis! You have to make the city Metropolis because it's Superman, or it won't sell!"

They could probably just have Brainiac take Metropolis. I believe LEGO Batman 3 and Injustice already did that.

 

[PaladinBoo]

Blame WB, not RockSteady, or at least, the former RockSteady. This entire idea was DOA given that it was based on Suicide Squad, a property that consistory takes losses outside the Harley merch. It is DC’s most forced brand and I have little idea as to why WB is so hell bent on this IP.

Four words; Guardians of the Galaxy. Marvel and Disney made bank with Guardians and WB has been trying to catch that dragon since. Problem is, as others have stated, the Suicide Squad are suppose to be one off villains in one shot comics going on a suicide mission. You can't really do anything with them as you can with the Guardians. Not to mention that the Suicide Squad are made up of reprobates that want to kill each other and innocent people instead of being the lovable rouges with hearts of gold. Despite this WB is desperate to make characters like King Shark, Captain Boomerang, Deadshot and Harley Quinn be pop culture icons like Rocket Raccoon and Groot. It is never going to happen no matter how hard WB tries to force it on the masses.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Four words; Guardians of the Galaxy. Marvel and Disney made bank with Guardians and WB has been trying to catch that dragon since. Problem is, as others have stated, the Suicide Squad are suppose to be one off villains in one shot comics going on a suicide mission. You can't really do anything with them as you can with the Guardians. Not to mention that the Suicide Squad are made up of reprobates that want to kill each other and innocent people instead of being the lovable rouges with hearts of gold. Despite this WB is desperate to make characters like King Shark, Captain Boomerang, Deadshot and Harley Quinn be pop culture icons like Rocket Raccoon and Groot. It is never going to happen no matter how hard WB tries to force it on the masses.

There is one issue with this explanation. The Suicide Squad were already being pushed prior to that 2014 movie. This game actually dates back to 2010 believe it or not, with Warner announcing it then looking for a developer around the same time as Arkham City.

In 2014, the test pilot of SS was released with the Arkhamverse movie, Suicide Squad Assault on Arkham, which was pretty much a back door to the 2016 film, which in and of itself was being developed prior to Guardians release I believe. One should also mention the Arkhamverse setup to Suicide Squad within the portable version of Arkham Origins back in 2013.

WB literally woke up one day and decided to spend a decade making these shits a household name, only to fail on every regard. As for why they did it, my best guess would be either because DC is known for its villains, or they saw Harley Quinn get massive popularity via Asylum and wanted to ride it. While 2016 and Gunn’s films were certainly warped/designed to try and make them Guardians, they have been pushed long before that film’s success.

 

[anustart76]

This game actually dates back to 2010 believe it or not, with Warner announcing it then looking for a developer around the same time as Arkham City.

You sure that wasn't for Arkham Knight? I don't think they would have been planning this particular game until they'd already completed most of Arkham Knight.

In 2014, the test pilot of SS was released with the Arkhamverse movie, Suicide Squad Assault on Arkham, which was pretty much a back door to the 2016 film, which in and of itself was being developed prior to Guardians release I believe. One should also mention the Arkhamverse setup to Suicide Squad within the portable version of Arkham Origins back in 2013.

Assault on Arkham was great, but it's only part of the Arkham games, it has nothing to do with the live-action movies. As for the Origins setups you're referring to, there were a few scenes with Amanda Waller in both Origins and Blackgate, but Deathstroke never ended up being shown as part of either adaptation of the SS.

This specific game is almost certainly a top-down mandate that came from some short-sighted obsession with tying into the movies, although I do agree that they didn't realize how uninteresting their Suicide Squad was going to be. Assault on Arkham worked because it was set in a great universe, with the best Batman actor, and was a Batman movie first and foremost. And it was well-written.

 

[Tor Lugosi]

You sure that wasn't for Arkham Knight? I don't think they would have been planning this particular game until they'd already completed most of Arkham Knight.

No, he's right, it was first talked about in 2010. Here's an archive of the article, the relevant part being:

Next Johns surprised attendees with the announcement that a "hardcore violent" "Suicide Squad" video game is in the works. No time table was given, but it could coincide with the "Squad" film that's reportedly in the works.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

You sure that wasn't for Arkham Knight? I don't think they would have been planning this particular game until they'd already completed most of Arkham Knight.

As @Tor Lugosi put, they have been trying to develop this title since 2010. RockSteady seemingly got shuffled into the production as it had no takers and WB didn’t like their Superman pitch.

Assault on Arkham was great, but it's only part of the Arkham games, it has nothing to do with the live-action movies.

It was a test pilot for the movie. Yes they are different, but the idea was to test the waters in a less costly medium to build up some mainstream knowledge of the brand prior to the big budget picture. SS was an unknown property outside of one episode of JLU in the 2010s, so making a minor animated film and connecting it to the popular video game series was a good way to build recognition.

 

[CHARizard]

I don't know, I kind of get what they're saying.

Disenfranchised men use the Joker as a symbol in those cringey fucking memes they post on social media all the time.

I don't get why these guys latched themselves to the Joker, but they did. The memes existed long before the 2019 film, and I guess I could get how it would be The Killing Joke based on the whole "One bad day is all it takes" idea, but I honestly think the losers clinging to Joker came about more after The Dark Knight portrayal, which makes me understand it even less.

But since the new film came out, they definitely gravitate more towards using that portrayal in memes.

Theres a guy who works at a local grocery store that has a joker themed prius. Its super run down, poorly painted purple with a bunch of Heath Ledger joker faces on the rear window. He looks like you expect.

 

[Michael Wade]

They did a preview stream for journos and had to restart because Harley's character model glitched and she was just a floating head.

Nice game faggots, hope you go bankrupt.

That's amazing. I remember when company's like naughty dog busted their asses to have backup streams and countermeasures just to make sure nothing would go wrong in the middle of e3. If they can't even do that this game is fucked.

The Joker has always been a symbol for disenfranchised men since the Killing Joke. Unfortunately the average libshit and tranny thinks disenfranchised men = alt right incel Nazi. Those are people that deserve to be disenfranchised and ostracize by society and need to be oppressed and belittled more. They really, really did not like that the Joker became a symbol for men disenfranchised by the ruling Left Wing class. You are right that this is the Left's attempt to "take back" the Joker. It is going to fail miserably given that this Joker is a prancing pussy who talks about his insecurities instead of, well, this:

I worry they'll fuck up the sequel in an attempt to make the first one look bad. I feel like it's a shocking rare movie where the villain is intentionally played up as correct and actually comes across that way. At the very least he's a bad guy in a world of bad guys from his perspective.

Suicide squad was a good idea once, but the focus on Harley over Deadshot and rick flag killed it for me.

 

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best joker, wait best batman everything is mask of the phantom. sadly we will never go back to that quality

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

I worry they'll fuck up the sequel in an attempt to make the first one look bad.

I mean...Joker came out in 2019.

So you know the sequel is going to basically make the ending retroactively an allegory to January 6th.

 

[Sniperwoof]

Speaking of Suicide Squad I've always found Peacemaker's backstory very weird.

He's a violent psychopath who was raised by a psychotic violent white supremacist contract killer who groomed him into becoming a hitman and child solider.

So Peacemaker goes along with it and kills hundreds or even thousands of people which is perfectly fine but then his mentor says nigger which is a step too far so he turns on his adoptive father and kills him for being a racist.

I'm a manga reader so I have no idea if this is canon in the comics but I found it very gay and very cringe in the film.