Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[AMHOLIO]

There's a reason why these people are never truly recognized as "good artists" no matter how hard they try, at most I've only ever seen people praise a troon's visual art. A lot of a troon's attempt at writing is mostly based in vanity. Just like their identity, they wanna appear a certain way- mostly to gain status as a "creator". That mentality is noticeable in writing. The only times I've seen people who like a writer's work who had that vane mentality is when they had no idea about the art of writing- so of course they aren't gonna see it as it is.

This is actually why I started the trans made media thread: somehow, as soon as a person became trans, the ideas were sapped from them. As if subtly and narrative point was wiped out of their brains with the precise swabs of a thousand q-tips. It's not about writing a story to entertain the viewer, or to enjoy the art of writing and storytelling, it's not to explore a nuanced topic or even a strange possiblity (and if they say it is they do it where it goes their way all the time regardless of being interesting or making sense), it's rarely because they're having fun. I think it's what you said, it's about affirmation, power fantasies, and endless navel gazing. The basic ones I've seen have basic young adult show melodrama on top of another premise, and it boils down to "I'm troubled and toiled and my haters are dumb." I think the most pretentious ones are on the side of "I am a ball of light, an ephemeral being, a being without shape or form but made of substance, I am sinful and I am not yet I do good and bad, and also my haters are dumb." There's usually something about love and acceptance conquering all in a phony, unnatural sense, from ignoring flaws in a relationship between protagonists to having the dream polyamory work, to having the trans person be better for accepting everyone and stuff. It's like shitty hippie literature where they just want to talk about how it always feels like to feel like themselves, people with terrible grasp on who they are trying to become metaphysical or heartwarming when they barely experience emotions outside of anime and online emoticons. It's shallow, flat, and screams like they know everything but also don't. It's just... so consistently shit in how it's written and what it is about that I don't know how it got this way. Like again, everyone had the same brain parasite that makes you write like crap.

It's all vanity projects up and down. The biggest mystery to explore is themselves because they're socially and emotionally stunted, there's a lot of low quality anime and cartoon style writing because a lot of them don't graduate beyond that (or autism), and there's hardly any structure or conflict that doesn't end with "the character accepts themselves" or "the bad guy is converted to Jesus if redeemable and super punched to hell if irredeemable in the author's eyes." That was a lot of jumbled up rambling to say that trans writing is so shit and it confounds me on how it can be so CONSISTENTLY shit IN THE SAME FUCKING WAYS, OVER AND OVER. The nervous ones write the least offensive to anyone ever who's a minority writing possible (to the point they become super bland). The angry ones write kill all bigots and terfs fantasies with little character arcs or nuance to either side. The self absorbed ones write self felating about how much thinking and musing they do about being trans and how when others accept their ideas all the problems go away. The sheltered ones write shitty anime as stated earlier. The lonely ones write love stories that amount to "omg i'm gay" being repeated between two people one hundred times. And all of these are usually present in different amounts in a story and all are surprisingly fucking shit.


I don't trust anyone who says they're a professional trans writer to tell me a damn thing about writing. They couldn't tell me about plot, structure, tension, word usage, anything aside from MAYBE character whinging and purple prose. I'm so fucking sick of it and I'm elated I do not have to speak to anyone about troon writing in books or games anymore because it's fucking atrocious.


Sorry, tired and needed to ramble.

 

[grenouille crétine]

[snip]

You might find this Substack by a detransitioned woman on this subject interesting.

I agree with her that it is much easier to clock troons when you’re in spaces like this that catalogue common troon tells, or experiencing the misfortune of having to consistently see the same troon at work or school. On that note, I’ve personally never had an actual positive experience with another trooner IRL. I tried to be friends with a few (was initially excited about the prospect!) and they were just way too weird and annoying.

Meeting LGBs who were just normal people made me feel much better about my sexuality, whereas meeting a comparable number of insufferable trans with strikingly similar pathologies was a good wake-up call about the gender bs.

 

[Lady Bizness]

Hey did anyone see that Twin Flames documentary on Netflix?

What a stupid grift. I love culty shit but I don't think anything is ever going to be as fun to watch as Wild Wild Country. Lula Rich was pretty interesting, but that may have just been because of my experience with how it infected all of the Mormons in my community so I was already fascinated.

Anyway, in Twin Flames, the head grifters had a problem. Their grift pretty much only enticed women such that the only guy they could rope in was a ne'er-do-well drug addict who seemingly didn't even participate much other than to accept marriage to the one young idiot they had. To solve this ratio they simply told some women they were a man now and forced them to transition.

I have thoughts about the documentary team's decision to bring on an Expert Pooner to explain what was wrong about this situation. Did anyone else watch this thing?

 

[Deepland Bystander]

You might find this Substack by a detransitioned woman on this subject interesting.

I agree with her that it is much easier to clock troons when you’re in spaces like this that catalogue common troon tells, or experiencing the misfortune of having to consistently see the same troon at work or school. On that note, I’ve personally never had an actual positive experience with another trooner IRL. I tried to be friends with a few (was initially excited about the prospect!) and they were just way too weird and annoying.

Meeting LGBs who were just normal people made me feel much better about my sexuality, whereas meeting a comparable number of insufferable trans with strikingly similar pathologies was a good wake-up call about the gender bs.

I agree with her that 'you can't always tell', because most people simply don't care enough, and Kiwifarms (and any spaces dedicated to discussing gender) is quite 'biased' because we've been learning and discussing about the tells. - and I agree that it doesn't matter if you look 'feminine' enough, your actual sex is what matters... but I still spot the usual detransitioneres grievances here in regards to exogenous hormones and surgeries, it's understandable, but it does get annoying. People tend to underplay how much 'clocking' is to do with societal perception than the changes in physical bodies. Back in the 1800s, a woman dressed like men with short hair would pass as a man in the way that even a doctor wouldn't notice unless she's undressed - see Margaret "James Barry" Bulkley. - this was before exogenous hormones. The sexual heuristics in the Victorian era was so different to us, in the modern day a woman dressed in suit with short hair would be seen as a woman.

Then I'd go about how some (high effort) tranners actually said that it's much easier to pass in some rural nowhere in the midwest than in LA because the latter is so troon-filled that the local population learned how to clock troons through sheer exposure alone.

There are things I wish to say about grievances politics and how detransitioners have become as annoying and smug as trans politics itself, but I start to feel like a hypocrite to say that lately because I've been getting 'infected' by their modus operandi when it comes to how I cope with my personal issues. I understand that terfs/radfem online can be as cult-like as troons... But I'll say for what it is. Most political discourse online is filled by whiny narcissists - but it's not really their fault. The political landscape today incentivize ragebait and the squeakiest wheel, we're all maps and not territory, arguing about symbolic bullshit that's no longer physically meaningful. but you're left to suffer alone if you don't grift. I supposed there are many detransitioners that never went online and live their lives quitely. Same for trannies. (There's a high number of 'quiet' troons who became disillusioned by their transition but feeling 'too far gone' to detransition, and simply treat their legal document as bureaucratic lies. - still legally opposite gender, but not ideologically or mentally anymore. I think realising that everything is fake yet at the same time, continue to live in peace and content is actually quite honorable. This is likely the existence of many people we don't hear about online)

 

[Hinttitroniikka]

You might find this Substack by a detransitioned woman on this subject interesting.

That was very interesting, thank you!
I think sometimes the obsession with clocking and passing is a self-sustaining ecosystem, similar to:

I understand that terfs/radfem online can be as cult-like as troons... But I'll say for what it is. Most political discourse online is filled by whiny narcissists - but it's not really their fault. The political landscape today incentivize ragebait and the squeakiest wheel, we're all maps and not territory, arguing about symbolic bullshit that's no longer physically meaningful.

in that, when one side lists ways to clock someone, the other side reads it as a list of styling tips and surgeries to get. So sometimes I feel like terfs and tras actually need each other, at least to have something to do online. Because it shouldn't matter to radfems as long as sex is immutable anyway, and it shouldn't matter to tip as long as gender is about more than sex. (That's why my philosophy on it is so in the middle, but I just wish that the extremes wouldn't see this as (trans)misogynistic genocidal mania.)

 

[del_toid]

Inspired by a conversation in the Trans posting L's thread:

What are some misconceptions that normies have in favor of troons?

I realized that my buddy thought that troons could pass, and that surgery was so good that a stinkditch could be made identical to a real vagina. For some reason, normies have no concept of the horrors that are the consequences of medical transition, or the reality that troons can't pass except in staged, filtered photos.

Its obvious that they also believe that puberty blockers and hormone therapy can be discontinued and reversed (vidya gender slider style) and don't realize the permanence of these things.

Sometimes I take this site for granted, and forget that most people never get exposed to the truth about these things, mostly because its not available anywhere else.

 

[deermeat]

I realized that my buddy thought that troons could pass, and that surgery was so good that a stinkditch could be made identical to a real vagina. For some reason, normies have no concept of the horrors that are the consequences of medical transition, or the reality that troons can't pass except in staged, filtered photos.

Reminds me of that joke-yet-positive tweet someone made where they were like "trans women got that shit custom made, leather interior" about neovags. If they knew what actual neovags were like, they wouldn't have embarrassed themself like that even if it is a joke lol

 

[Haloperidol]

I have been thinking about the linguistic aspect of troon ideology recently. If I say gender isn’t real, in response I always get (irl at least) something like, “well, obviously it’s real or people wouldn’t have a name for it and be talking about it and publishing papers about it.” But they can never point to how it exists as distinct from sex, the best they can do is refer to other people insisting upon its existence. They can only point to the language being real. The idea of the gender spectrum was introduced, was assumed to have meaning and a slew of people decided they had to figure out their place in this new framework. And yet, these people who experience gender aren’t experiencing anything I can understand or relate to, when that shared understanding is how words have meaning at all. Instead of starting with the feeling and giving it a word, it’s like people start with the word and work backwards to find the feeling. As if it’s a creation of language that has taken on a life of its own, rather than something innate to the human mind given language.

It’s a bizarre phenomenon where by simply naming something you can manifest it almost tulpa-like into the public consciousness. Is there a term for this? Manipulating language to give legitimacy to nonsense concepts? I really don’t have the vocabulary to properly get at this and would like to read more.

Edited for some rephrasing.

 

[Maginot]

Manipulating language to give legitimacy to nonsense concepts?

 

[Hinttitroniikka]

I have been thinking about the linguistic aspect of troon ideology recently. If I say gender isn’t real, in response I always get (irl at least) something like, “well, obviously it’s real or people wouldn’t have a name for it and be talking about it and publishing papers about it.” But they can never point to how it exists as distinct from sex, the best they can do is refer to other people insisting upon its existence. They can only point to the language being real. The idea of the gender spectrum was introduced, was assumed to have meaning and a slew of people decided they had to figure out their place in this new framework. And yet, these people who experience gender aren’t experiencing anything I can understand or relate to, when that shared understanding is how words have meaning at all. Instead of starting with the feeling and giving it a word, it’s like people start with the word and work backwards to find the feeling. As if it’s a creation of language that has taken on a life of its own, rather than something innate to the human mind given language.

It’s a bizarre phenomenon where by simply naming something you can manifest it almost tulpa-like into the public consciousness. Is there a term for this? Manipulating language to give legitimacy to nonsense concepts? I really don’t have the vocabulary to properly get at this and would like to read more.

Edited for some rephrasing.

As far as I have gleaned, it's all the associations and connotations that aren't the anatomy and physiology itself, the culture and metaphysical identities built up around the two sexually dimorphic groups. After all, there really is no hormonal reason for pink to mean one sex and blue to mean another, for long hair or short hair to signify anything, stuff like that. The Limmy bathroom door sketch. For centuries, what is masculine or feminine, and what is something else unrelated has been defined differently in different times and places and contexts and is even down to individual interpretation.

There was a tumlr post years ago that said, "Colour-code your infants' clothing so that strangers know what their genitals look like," with a slapfight in the reblogs about it not being about genitalia, rather about social groups the infants would grow up to belong to. (And "infants" is the keyword here, though even toddlers just copy what they're told - look at the tragedy of Jazz Jennings, after all. Kids like all toys and colours and shiny things until they get a sense of in-group/out-group or hit puberty, or have a psycho stagemom telling them "This toy has a connotation so you must be this group.")

Santa Claus doesn't exist as a literal magical person, but certainly as a concept people base some traditions around. Some people prefer to refer to this stuff as gender roles and expectations rather than gender itself. It bears repeating that if you're trad and really think baby girls want to wear headbows and baby boys don't, then you're talking about a different thing than I am, I'm coming from a kind of feminist, or at least anti-essentialist, perspective here. I think it pays to say either that it matters or it doesn't - like I said, make it about the anatomy, instead of easy, cheesy dunks like, "Uuu hunty, real woman know those shoes ugly, split ends hair fried, that's how I know ywnbaw, snappy fingers" stupid shit.

To the extent that it's all semantics, there was a time when people said, like, "I am a male but I like to live as a woman and do what they do, I'm not gonna call myself a female or fight about pronouns, I just want a romantic partner (probably bisexual) who accepts me for the oddball I am and to hell with the rest of society." Imagine if they did that instead of sending bathtub hormones to kids.

 

[grenouille crétine]

Hey did anyone see that Twin Flames documentary on Netflix?

Funnily enough, I can link to Michelle again: Substack on Escaping TF (I read it as “TIF/TIFU” every time, lol) I’ve not seen the doc myself, but I happened to notice this. Hopefully it is interesting to you!

in the modern day a woman dressed in suit with short hair would be seen as a woman,

For sane people yes. For people even peripherally involved in gender, however, they are far more likely to call that same, obvious woman “trans masc” “genderqueer” etc., not because she is truly androgynous, but because she is not doing the Woman-Things like spinny skirt and knee socks. (Not saying you don’t know this, just expanding on the twisted sex heuristics idea). I’ve seen TIMS say so many times now how unfair it is that butch radfem women are so “smug” about being female but not putting in the effort to “be a woman”. The drag queen-type gay ones get particularly misogynistic here because to them, the money and time it took to bimbofy (autocorrect says “bin body”) their skin husks means they win, they’re entitled to a prize, and that prize is bragging rights as a Real Female+getting the fairy tale romance/meal ticket Adonis/Aphrodite they’re almost always envisioning as their ultimate reward for the LARP. NBAW is ofc simple truth and hence deeply hurtful to trannies, but the extra psychic damage to fetishistic skinwalkers when it’s said by a Cathy Brennan-type is pretty great.

Still on the subject of perception, there’s a video of Luka Hein (transitioned at 16, now a 21-yo detrans woman) I’m thinking of but struggling to find where she’s speaking at some detrans rally, and she’s wearing a sleeveless turtleneck top and a mid-length pleated skirt with some type of hose and iirc boots—maybe a bit informal for some tastes for a public speaking appearance, but it’s certainly not fishnets and a mini skirt with a tube top, or anything remotely in the ballpark of the inappropriate shit many TIMs wear. She says within a few moments that she took testosterone and had a mastectomy, thus explaining her flat chest, Adam’s apple and deep voice. She speaks about her experience for a few minutes. The social media comments were FULL of people going “that’s a man, that’s no girl what a pervert they all dress like that” etc, when what she was wearing was perfectly appropriate and normal for a young woman. But her froggy voice (iirc she is also one of the many women who have had issues speaking after testosterone) and sharp features, plus the mortal sin of wearing boots and a skirt, meant even people who spend all day being mad at trannies online failed to get over themselves long enough to listen to what she was actually saying. FWIW I think she is quite striking, and she seems like one of the more level-headed/self-aware public detransitioners from what little I’ve seen at least, even at her young age.

Then I'd go about how some (high effort) tranners actually said that it's much easier to pass in some rural nowhere in the midwest than in LA because the latter is so troon-filled that the local population learned how to clock troons through sheer exposure alone.

Seems quite plausible.

I think realising that everything is fake yet at the same time, continue to live in peace and content is actually quite honorable. This is likely the existence of many people we don't hear about online

I don’t disagree, but I do find it very sad. I meant to post about it in one of the other threads, but just being able to openly laugh at and commiserate on how fucking stupid troonery is was the thing that made me finally decide to sign up here instead of just lurking. I miss real forums being more common; Reddit feels like a few codepedent hiveminds, Xitter is the epitome of rage bait and attention seeking. The fact that this site is so fundamentally upsetting to People of Gender when it’s just a foul-mouthed internet drama discussion forum is just poetic justice, imo. Mean words won’t kill you!

Spoiler: PL being pissed at doctors

Maybe it is because I see so many troons and detroons alike saying that they were absolutely dead-set on transition and nothing could have dissuaded them, and so they relate to it differently, but that expressly was not my experience. I was fully expecting the gender clinic to say no to transition, but at least be a literal “safe space” after other social services did nothing where I could hopefully get information/assistance with things like not living with a kiddie diddler or in my car lol. It was really disconcerting that I told their social workers about these issues I had, with emphasis on finding safe housing ie an actionable goal, explicitly said “I don’t want to exacerbate these issues right now with transition”, and their response was simply to push hormones, and to continue to push them even after I said I wasn’t interested, at the very first appointment. As an adult, walking out after something like that is a no-brainer. I was confused and uncomfortable, but I stayed.

I made the decision to go to the clinic to begin with, and I unfortunately was desperate enough and wanted to believe in the few moments of actual humanity I experienced there enough to go back, and then I was squarely in the shit. But THEY made the first move of “offering” to call me by male pronouns, immediately, like it was just an innocent thing. THEY saw nothing alarming about my myriad of obvious issues, and instead of listening to the voice of reason in my own head begging me to run away and just keep going it alone, I had been told how you could “find your own family” and was scared of getting hurt more on my own. So I guess it’s a difficult thing to reconcile. I could be doing a lot worse, but I could be doing a lot better too. I can’t just forgive and forget.

I still like , plus the added context of them here makes me laugh, but remembering how many damn rainbows were in that place now makes a bit sick.

This is a poor example for many reasons, but maybe something like thinking you might have cancer; you go to the doctor and share your symptoms, real things you’ve been experiencing that are scaring you and fucking up your life, and the doctor’s response to you saying you’re vomiting and coughing up blood, losing weight etc is a cheerful “everyone’s cancer is different!” without actually running any tests, yet then immediately they’re wanting to set up twice weekly chemo appointments and even offer to shave your head right then and there, but they still never run any tests or offer any potential alternative diagnoses. It is disconcerting to have multiple “medical professionals” act so flippantly when you are in real need, and ultimately delay the treatment of your actual issues because they’d rather drop a nuke in your endocrine system and pat themselves on the back for it. As an adult, I’d just walk out and not come back after that sort of impersonal treatment. As a kid I was used to it.

I think there's a larger part of the problem and troonism is simply a symptom of it. Alienation.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

FWIW I think she is quite striking, and she seems like one of the more level-headed/self-aware public detransitioners from what little I’ve seen at least, even at her young age.

I looked her up out of curiosity.

Interestingly, even with the Adam’s apple, she doesn’t look very masculine. It does look like the T may have aged her a bit, though. Not heard her speak yet.

 

[teriyakiburns]

It’s a bizarre phenomenon where by simply naming something you can manifest it almost tulpa-like into the public consciousness. Is there a term for this? Manipulating language to give legitimacy to nonsense concepts? I really don’t have the vocabulary to properly get at this and would like to read more.

The closest I can think of is reification, which Cambridge defines as, amongst other things, "the act of changing something abstract (= existing as a thought or idea) into something real. It can be used to describe the process of converting fantasies, genres, or influences into real objects or events."

It can also be a fallacy, where the unreal thing can't be real, but is treated as real by proponents.

 

[deermeat]

Why is tranny a slur? This was something I didn't even understand back when I was trans myself.
I can see why queer, nigger, faggot, dyke, carpet-muncher, chink, and kike are all slurs.
But "tranny" is literally just "tran" with a "ny" at the end of it. Oh, what, because they use it in a derogatory way? I thought we established that a word isn't a slur just because you don't like it. Karen isn't a slur, yet it's used against middle aged women.

I've seen even radfems/terfs be like "hey don't say Tranny, it's a slur".
If that's a slur then by God it's one of the most silliest slurs I've ever heard.

 

[Lady Bizness]

Funnily enough, I can link to Michelle again: Substack on Escaping TF (I read it as “TIF/TIFU” every time, lol) I’ve not seen the doc myself, but I happened to notice this. Hopefully it is interesting to you!

That was a really enjoyable read, thank you. I'm so glad to read someone articulate exactly what I was thinking about "Cassius'" commentary. I feel like the Netflix execs knew this aspect of the cult was going to cause problems, but for whatever reason they didn't want to enter yet another fight about this topic, so they brought her in and made sure the distraught moms could pronoun correctly.

I've only met one kid named Cassius in my life and his family owned a boxing gym. These tifs really be ridiculous.

 

[Kilo Riley]

Some real-life shit that happened in the past few days has really gotten me thinking about how we got here, beyond the go-to 'decay of western civilization' / 'porn-sick men on the internet/ fujoshis' argument. Without going into a long personal power-levelling tale, I blame the fact that feminism in the last 20 years is more about being a slut/men's rights advocacy in the last 20 years is more about 'women bad!' for the fact that we have a bunch of socially maladjusted pronoun people running around, and giving narcs a chance to groom unsuspecting children and vulnerable young adults.

The simple fact is that the society and culture we live in now does not want us to be happy, and when you really think about it, this whole set of paths that transgender bullshit sets you on is extremely profitable as opposed to actually helping people figure out their bullshit.

Oh, you're a woman with a flat chest, an unflattering figure, and a little bit of a butter-face (that didn't stop your uncle from doing what he did to you, though, did it) who likes sports, cars, and video games? Feel free to consume our products, but also, have you considered that you're actually a man, and that you would be happier if you got these life-altering, body-wrecking (and very profitable) surgeries that made you 'a man' while also slowly but surely causing health complications that will eventually lead you to require MORE (very profitable) medical procedures? Oh, and don't forget the therapy that we provide as part of our 'resources', which is definitely here to help you confront your traumas and find a healthier, more fulfilling way to live and not to sell you even more on our dogmatic ideology. And of course, don't forget that no matter what you do now, you are in a community full of people just like you, as well as porn-sick men who either see you as an ally of convenience and will be just as infuriated that you will not have sex with them, despite them not caring about you at all as a person nor really finding you as attractive as the "REAL WOMAN" you never felt like you could be; or, equally porn sick men who see you as someone easy to manipulate into being a quick pump and dump because said "REAL WOMEN" rightly see them as sex-addicted freaks.

Oh, but YOU are a man! Maybe a man who's a little on the pudgier side, with a weaker jawline and a scratchy little beard that never grew out the way your dad's did, and you're not very good at socializing with the opposite sex. Maybe you even feel more like you're not into women at all? Maybe it was always like that, or maybe something happened that you can't talk about because you're a man, and real men don't get raped, right? But then again, you don't really feel like a man, do you? That's what your friend Sophia says, and she's a woman, so she knows more about this emotionally sensitive stuff. In fact, she used to think just like you! That's why she transitioned, and she's pretty happy it seems! Maybe this is how you should go about things. Maybe, if you were a woman, the love handles and the soft face might be attractive- thicc is in this year, right? Maybe then, someone will love you, and it'll be okay to admit that someone hurt you the way they did. That said, remember that you will never be a real woman, and that the surgery Sophia said would solve all her problems (that she didn't get herself, oddly enough), left a bleeding, infected wound between your legs that makes it hurt to use the bathroom, smells exactly as bad as it looks, and means that you feel even less like a man than you did before. Welp, can't go back now, can you? Oh, yeah, and that surgery left you in the hole, didn't it, same with those hormones... should have moved to Cali or Colorado or New York. Sure, the cost of living would be WAY higher than it is back home, but at least they'd have covered some of the surgeries there... right?

Oh, but no, that's not you, is it? Maybe you're the Sophia in this situation. Maybe you're a man that was abused as a child, or maybe you were just wrong in the head from the day you were born. Women don't want to sleep with you, which is ridiculous, because what else is a woman there for? It's not YOUR fault you didn't win the genetic lottery, why are women treating you like shit! Oh, but maybe there's a solution you didn't consider, you realize- you could BE a woman. Women can't avoid you if you're in their bathrooms, if you're in their shelters, if you're in their spaces and throwing the fact that they can't do anything about it in their face, can they? It's a good grift, but people are going to catch on, eventually. Best to hedge your bets- there's a lot of young men out there that are confused, hurt, or just plain not that smart, and you could always use another meat shield.

And all the while, there are corporations raking in a whole lot of money from prescriptions on testosterone and estrogen, on hormone blockers, on experimental surgeries that don't do anything other than leave permanent scars or unnecessary mastectomies that aren't even for the purposes of wellness. What incentive do a bunch of rich people with connections have to tell you 'no, mutilating yourself for life won't be a good use of your money?' More importantly, what incentive do the politicians those rich people are backing with your money have to try and protect you? Hell, even the people who want to 'protect you' are more than happy to throw you out instead of giving you the actual mental help you need because it's convenient to have a boogeyman.

It's a racket.

 

[Jacques1194]

Am I the only one who finds the whole putting pronouns thing in your profile from non trans people weird?Like sure we know trannies are trying to convince people that they're whatever gender they identify as, and will go crazy if you misgender them, but unless you're a narcissist with they/them pronouns then there's no reason for a non trans person to put pronouns in their bio.If someone misgenders you then are you going to feel that insecure with yourself that you'll start having doubts about who you were born as?Sure if people kept calling me a she then I'd be mildly annoyed, but I wouldn't start having suicidal thoughts because of it, or start having doubts that I'm not a man.It feels like half the time a non trans person puts pronouns in their bios is so if someone misgenders them they can cry "discrimination" or go "See!Its not just trans people who get misgendered,Us cis people do to."

 

[hufflemuff]

Am I the only one who finds the whole putting pronouns thing in your profile from non trans people weird?Like sure we know trannies are trying to convince people that they're whatever gender they identify as, and will go crazy if you misgender them, but unless you're a narcissist with they/them pronouns then there's no reason for a non trans person to put pronouns in their bio.If someone misgenders you then are you going to feel that insecure with yourself that you'll start having doubts about who you were born as?Sure if people kept calling me a she then I'd be mildly annoyed, but I wouldn't start having suicidal thoughts because of it, or start having doubts that I'm not a man.It feels like half the time a non trans person puts pronouns in their bios is so if someone misgenders them they can cry "discrimination" or go "See!Its not just trans people who get misgendered,Us cis people do to."

This isn't for your benefit you naive soul, this is to normalize it for trannies and promote troonspeak.

 

[Hyper Light Grifter]

It's because they want to normalize pronouns as a code of behaviour and they don't actually care about spontaneous, disingenuous communication. Your average joe and handmaidens who think that just being kind is going to be the solution to this mental health crisis will gladly go along. They don't realise that you sacrifice all honesty when you let any mentally ill gendie softly force people to use the words that they chose, when all along everybody with two eyes, two braincells, and actual principles has no control over how they actually perceive and want to describe others.

There are a handfull of based tranners, such as Marcus Dib, the pissed off pooner from that offensive tranny and undoubtedly 'one of the good ones', who know better. He can intuit that when you somewhat pass and don't act like a total gendertard, people may actually, instinctually perceive you as the opposite sex. Marcus knows that he isn't, but he also knows that his insanity is alleviated by at least looking like a man. He also understands then that people go he/him because of how he looks, nothing more and nothing less. So, at the end of the day he doens't have to go around with forcing anyone to use some pronouns, or thinking up schemes to get as many people to go along in one go. He knows that trying that will only invite sycophantic use of the oh-so correct pronouns, instead of the honesty that comes from letting people assume your gender at face-value. He knows that this may hurt in the short term, but that it is ultimately worth it when transition pans out.

The video where he tells everybody to stop putting dumb pronouns in their bio's is hilarious. He rightfully malds at all the enby gendertards mucking up the whole controversy here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADU1_y3Zrcs&ab_channel=TheOffensiveTranny

It's honestly amazing how badly they don't get it. Is a handle like 'xLilith_Femme69x (she/her)' really meant to convince anybody that the person on the other side of the screen is a woman instead of a delusional pornsick troon? Do they have no idea that Custard_Stargazekin (they/xey/any) immediately telegraphs the presence of a blue-haired insecure teenage girl with grave identity issues on your arts & crafts subforum? The only benefit of the doubt I can give them is that it also acts as a shibboleth within their own circles and that must be why they ham it up so much, but to an outsider it's just as off-putting as a glimpse of the colors of a venomous frog.

This is painfully juxtaposed with normies trying to play ball: some kind and oblivious dude going by Johnny Generico (he/him) is miles away from a delusional pooner choosing and enforcing Iona Cassius (he/him) as her new but always true self while at the same time screeching that she doesn't owe anybody masculinity just for being trans. I can not for the life of me imagine why a normal person would want to be perceived in such a way. At best, people will see no other red flags and just assume that you're one of the overly polite suckers. At worst, people will doubt whether or not you're a lying tranny playing pretend on the internet when all you tried was to appease them, it just breeds mistrust when you assume that there is really a right or wrong way to telegraph something as dumb as pronouns. They'll say it's not a big deal, so why can't you trust that having a username such as Eric or Sandra will do the job? Because they want people to indulge in their attention-seeking ways with them.

 

[Polystyrene Glioblastoma]

My former favorite Sims content creator has decided to force a boy child sim to be "nonbinary" in the prehistoric period of her time challenge. All because her custom content isn't properly gendered. Timestamp: 26:12.

I've lost all trust in her after this bullshit grift.