Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

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Optimistism isn't always delusional or unrealistic. Some farmers are just super depressed and have a too narrow worldview to process it. That's something they have to work on themselves as people. Some don't think it will happen as fast as you say it will and think you're predicting things too fast, but they would be on board if you were right and they were wrong.

Stay realistic, but also, stay optimistic. It can't rain all the time, just be prepared for both negative and positive outcomes. 🌈
Oh, believe me, I am under no delusions that this will be quick. I don't expect the trans craze to magically disappear overnight. My prediction is that it will take a few years for it to finally be put away, but it will happen. What I'm seeing is the first holes in the dyke starting to appear, and though the trans crowd might try desperately to plug them up as they come, eventually the wall will break and all of this nonsense will go along with it.

It won't go down without a fight, though, and even still these things take time. I know it's unbelievably depressing that we're even having this fight in the first place, but this kind of insanity cannot go on forever. It has to fall eventually.
 
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I really do think GRS is becoming more and more popular.
It is, but moreso with TIFs than TIMs. So many TIFs are getting rotdog installations nowadays while not even 20 years ago, it was common knowledge among TIFs to avoid the surgery and use a strap-on when necessary. I place a lot of the blame for the rise in bottom surgery on TIFs trying to prove they're REAL DOODS and not transtrending enbies. It's become prevalent transmed rhetoric to say "If you don't want bottom surgery, you don't have dysphoria, so you're not actually trans", which pooners hear as "You're just a silly little cis girl who won't be taken seriously if you don't get a rotdog".

My prediction is that it will take a few years for it to finally be put away, but it will happen.
I predict that this could take several decades because there is decades of "brain in the wrong body" and "transition is the best path for some people" research to undo, much of which was promoted by the likes of Ray Blanchard and Michael Bailey. This won't go away until we can all agree that "gender dysphoria" is a side effect of other issues and that trooning out doesn't help anybody in a meaningful way, which will mean that there's no reason for males to enter female-only spaces. The biggest obstacle to this will be older, post-op AGPs like Anne Lawrence because they're too fetish-addled to ever be helped in constructive ways and will constantly toe the line to keep the fetish LARP acceptable.
 
If I have to give them any credit at all, the vanishing few trannies I've ever seen come out of the hormone soup anywhere near...let's call it "stable", have all shared several features:
  • Obvious mental disturbance since early childhood
  • Years and years of counseling
  • Trooning out was a last ditch
  • They're completely open about the medical risks of exogenous hormones, like elevated cancer risk.
  • Pretty much never go for the butcher surgeries.
Meanwhile, anyone who, at say ~25-30 says "hmmmm I've been questioning my gender lately", one HUNDRED percent:
  • Otherwise mentally unremarkable childhood
  • Immediately jumped straight to trooning out with little to no counseling
  • Get creepy and sexual about it just as quickly
  • Start suggesting the social contagion as often as they can bring up egg cracking.
I knew someone who trooned out years ago from the second category; discord predators got him. He'd been popping estrogen for like 3 months and suddenly this dude I'd known for years 1. Wondered aloud if maybe I could sometimes be feminine enough that I'd think about going troon, and 2. Asked if he could suck my dick.

It's so transparently a sex thing that you can't even give the benefit of the doubt to people who say it's not.
 
Since some countries, namely Canada and the UK, I think, have started making misgendering a crime, which country would be the most likely to implement the death penalty for misgendering first? And if a country does implement such laws, how quickly will others follow suit?

Also, in regards to married people with children who troon out, how many of them choose not to get a divorce, just for the purpose of not needing to pay child support?
800 trillion Xi/xirselves commit sewerslide every day when you violently misgender xem, so it is attempted murder to do so

The married thing is because being a 45 year old troon is a way to avoid the responsibilities of being an adult entirely and having disgusting gay sex with another porn addicted divorcee. A divorce and child support would be comparably tame. But the result is the same either way: a wife and kids deserted without a father figure.
 
A thought I just had is that there really is a genocide related to troons that’s ongoing, but it’s not the one they moan and cry about: it’s a genocide of autists. Autism has been on the rise in the last few decades, and we know it’s genetic. Many autists are weird but ultimately can function just fine in society (they MAY even exist among us on this very forum, if you can believe it) yet there’s a chance that those same genes decide to go full balls-to-the-wall low-functioning autistic in a baby and make someone who is very severely disabled and cannot themselves contribute labor or resources to their government. So in order to slow the potential rise of a severely disabled population, the “solution,” given our current era of PR and ethics, is to entice those who carry autism genes (i.e. functioning autists) into being child-free (see also: autistic redditors enamored by antinatalism) and/or sterilizing themselves, and this is especially easy to do so if you make this process something that can be fixated on by a hyper-focused mind.
 
But at the end of the day, fetish or not, predatory or not, they're victims of a horrible medical scam.
That's what gets me. People can continue to cheer on trans people killing themselves and I won't stop them (I'm still waiting for some to do a flip myself) but there's too many victims out there who go bad because they fell into the scam rather than were inherently bad in the first place. The later are lolcows and would still be after detransitioning, the former will be broken men and women chewed up by predators and a predatory medical system.

Oh, believe me, I am under no delusions that this will be quick.
Don't worry, it didn't sound like it, I was saying that people might judge you to be faster than you mean. And will give your ass rainbows even if you say 10 years, they think it's the fucking empire.

but this kind of insanity cannot go on forever. It has to fall eventually.
Basically. Towers of broken logic fall when they have too many holes poked in them, and the trans lobby likely doesn't have the mental capacity to repair their reputation. Or worse, the people IN the trans community are knocking down parts faster from the inside than even businessmen in the medical industry can repair.

It's become prevalent transmed rhetoric to say "If you don't want bottom surgery, you don't have dysphoria, so you're not actually trans", which pooners hear as "You're just a silly little cis girl who won't be taken seriously if you don't get a rotdog".
The fact that so many fucking pooners care so goddamn much about what others think of them murders my own anxiety ridden heart. It's so gross, everyone being encouraged to always doublethink and doublecheck about how someone percieves you. It's not an easy mentality to get out of even without troonism and it certainly isn't helped by finding your "True Self" that's just an explosive reaction to others. That's the opposite of your true self, that's panic. I hate it so goddamn much. /alog (:_(

I fear none of these women will grow out of it, or worse, won't have the opportunity to grow out of it. The melancholy of destroying your body drowns out other thoughts and it is even harder to recover from. The ones who do try to recover and speak out have my endless gratitude that they are trying to change themselves and prevent others from falling into the deathtrap, no matter what others think. It's hard, but usually, it shows progress.

The biggest obstacle to this will be older, post-op AGPs like Anne Lawrence because they're too fetish-addled to ever be helped in constructive ways and will constantly toe the line to keep the fetish LARP acceptable.
Eid Julia Serano, Eid!

I read his book and to this day I still want to beat people with it who agree with him. He's like ground zero for hating lesbians for not sucking the girl dick, autogyno isn't real, being pretentious and sniffing his own farts, and gibs me that transition without gAtEkEePiNg NOW NOW NOW.


  • They're completely open about the medical risks of exogenous hormones, like elevated cancer risk.
  • Pretty much never go for the butcher surgeries.
I'm glad there's a few out there who realize it. Sad that it came to that for them, but good job.

Wondered aloud if maybe I could sometimes be feminine enough that I'd think about going troon, and 2. Asked if he could suck my dick.
How did you respond? Did you cut him off immediately or call him out?

but it’s not the one they moan and cry about: it’s a genocide of autists
So in order to slow the potential rise of a severely disabled population, the “solution,” given our current era of PR and ethics, is to entice those who carry autism genes (i.e. functioning autists) into being child-free (see also: autistic redditors enamored by antinatalism) and/or sterilizing themselves, and this is especially easy to do so if you make this process something that can be fixated on by a hyper-focused mind.
I understand where you're coming from, but this implies a conscious plan from the top that isn't "mo' money mo' bitches". Medical company higher ups are greedy and love a stable long term medical population to bleed dry of insurance, LGBT organizations had to jump to a new issue to raise money for once LGB was given marriage, and fetishy men would have been this way with or without the LGBT support it seems like(they're just extra enabled now and look to assimilate). It's not a very successful program to delete autists since generally mentally ill people get swept up into it, not all autists fall for it and stay themselves, and AGPs are having kids THEN trooning out. Hell, women like ArchivistBeck are half assed troons raising babies too. There would be more emphasis on sterilization and punishments for stopping hormone therapy/never getting thr chop.
 
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How did you respond? Did you cut him off immediately or call him out?
Cut off. It wasn't that difficult to stop talking to him; by that point I had no friends in common with him, he was always insanely shy (up to the BJ request), and I'm not -that- hard up for a blowie.

Medical company higher ups are greedy and love a stable long term medical population to bleed dry of insurance,
Doctors are also pretty infamous for doing mad science shit with minimal provocation. Lobotomies, hysterectomies for any feminine problem, electroshock, all of this stuff is within the last hundred years alone.
 
Lots of TRAs claim to be communists. Yet they love videos of middle/upper class TIMs humiliating service workers using the wrong pronouns on camera. Solidarity with the workers dissappers the moment that worker commits the hatecrime of hurting a Person of Gender's feelings.
You mean Lillytino?
 
Cut off. It wasn't that difficult to stop talking to him; by that point I had no friends in common with him, he was always insanely shy (up to the BJ request), and I'm not -that- hard up for a blowie.


Doctors are also pretty infamous for doing mad science shit with minimal provocation. Lobotomies, hysterectomies for any feminine problem, electroshock, all of this stuff is within the last hundred years alone.
To be fair, if I was a surgeon with no conscience and people were begging me to experiment on them, and I got plaudits and big money to fuck around cutting them up with zero consequences…I’d be tempted.
 
To be fair, if I was a surgeon with no conscience and people were begging me to experiment on them, and I got plaudits and big money to fuck around cutting them up with zero consequences…I’d be tempted.
There's also the institutional capture. Hormones + hack'n'slash is the "standard of care". Why? Because tranny activists wormed their way into the institution that establishes standards of care.

I wish that were a conspiracy theory. It's exactly what happened, matter of public record.
 
There's also the institutional capture. Hormones + hack'n'slash is the "standard of care". Why? Because tranny activists wormed their way into the institution that establishes standards of care.

I wish that were a conspiracy theory. It's exactly what happened, matter of public record.
Finally we get to answer the question, what if Operation Snow White had actually succeeded?
 
If a married person with children were to troon out, and then pulled a Chris Benoit, would the troon be remembered as being a martyr, as in the dead spouse and/or children get blamed for being transphobic, leading up to them getting rightfully Benoit'd? Or would the troon be seen as a murderer, and the media tries to quickly erase the troon out of existence, like what happened to Chris Benoit?
 
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If a married person with children were to troon out, and then pulled a Chris Benoit, would the troon be remembered as being a martyr, as in the dead spouse and/or children get blamed for being transphobic, leading up to them getting rightfully Benoit'd? Or would the troon be seen as a murderer, and the media tries to quickly erase the troon out of existence, like what happened to Chris Benoit?

If this happened today:

The media can't stop the story from leaking so they give it a nod and avoid using pictures, pronouns, or name (as much as they can get away with it) and then drop reporting and try to memory hole the event. The media will never post any updates to the story.

Fringe online activists will push the transphobia narrative but they will be ignored, save for some mocking.

It's an uncomfortable enough context and topic that people won't want to focus on it for too long because it'll make them have to start thinking.
 
If a married person with children were to troon out, and then pulled a Chris Benoit, would the troon be remembered as being a martyr, as in the dead spouse and/or children get blamed for being transphobic, leading up to them getting rightfully Benoit'd? Or would the troon be seen as a murderer, and the media tries to quickly erase the troon out of existence, like what happened to Chris Benoit?
If a woman trooned and MS the family it would be very interesting. I have. feeling it would get far more traction in the media because it’s just so wild to think about a woman killing a man and her kids.

If a man trooned and did it it would just go onto the pile of “They seemed like such a nice family” and the TRAs would come up with a lot of excuses, same as for their tranny mass murderers.

I swear by this stage there has to be enough documented cases of tranny murderers to justify a true troon crime podcast.
 
I think this might be my favorite person on tumblr.

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it's clear that trans identified males think womanhood is some kind of sleepover where we all gossip about how gross men are and pillow fight and paint each other's nails and all get along like the barbies in barbieland meanwhile women, even in the usa, are regularly murdered in honor killings

womanhood is not a cool little club you can join where the mean ugly terfs are just trying to keep you out it's literally a biological reality that affects 50% of humans
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"people only pick on trans people because they're easy targets" yeah no shit they're easy targets just like flat earthers and antivaxxers. what they believe is absolutely fucking insane when you think about it for more than 2 seconds.

the idea of trans is no different from the idea of predestination.

predestination says only those who have been chosen by god will be saved and will go to heaven. how do you know you're predestined? there is literally no way to tell externally. there is no test you take to make sure you're predestined. you just have to put your faith in jesus and know, internally, in your heart, or whatever. funny how literally everyone who believes this also happens to be one of the ~chosen ones~.

the idea of being trans is that some people are born in the wrong body. how do you know you're born in the wrong body? there is literally no external way to tell, aside from maybe a few "am I trans?" quizlets (which as we all know are 100% accurate always and only made by professionals and not 12 year old furries). you just look inside, or whatever, and somehow "know" or you decide for yourself. then, based on your own self-reporting, which you have no way to externally verify, you expect people to bend to your will and you expect society to give you special privileges that no one else gets. no other man gets to pee in the ladies' or compete in women's sports but once you self-id as trans? well, right this way "ma'am", pay no mind to the women cowering in fear of you. their rights don't matter nearly as much as your feelings. funny how damn near everyone who believes in this also happens to be trans themselves, will a few outliers.

even "gender critical" transes like mr. blaire white and ms. buck angel will talk in hours upon hours of videos about the importance of gatekeeping and protecting women's spaces, yet /they/ demand the exact same privileges as every other "fake" (in their words) trans person on tiktok. do you seriously think "fake" trans people are going to listen to you and suddenly not go into the women's? No! are you fucking kidding me? it's so much easier to tell a buck or a blaire to fuck off than it is to a delusional fetishist who will 100% either hurt you or make a scene. there is no "true trans" because EVERYONE claims to be truly trans, everyone from bruce jenner to the "IT IS MA'AM" gamestop dude.

it fucking baffles me how youtube skeptics - people i used to admire, people who taught me how to think critically about shit - will spend all damn day dunking on flat earthers and creationists but will turn a blind eye to the trans cray and will even go as far as to support them. they think they're so above it all and they can't be fooled, but they have been, and I keep waiting for them to snap out of it - just like I waited for my own family to snap out of christianity - but they haven't.

if you seriously think a dress and some hormones and plastic surgery will make a man into a woman, you're insane, and you're no more crazy than a youtuber who thinks antarctica is an ice wall or a pastor who still prays to his "sky daddy". you have no right to make fun of these people for the insane shit they believe when you believe in this nonsense. you are quite literally the pot calling the kettle black.

and if you're one of those people who's like "oh well i know they're not actually women i just call them that to avoid hurting their feelings" im sorry but you're still in this cult, you're physically in but mentally out and the only way to really get out is to call a spade a spade, admit the emperor has no clothes, admit you were fooled just like me - just like all of us - and speak out against it.
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sometimes i think leftist youtubers have worms for brains.

so let me get this straight... the detransitioner who has nothing to gain and everything to lose comes out and talks about how transition ruined her life. she's lost friends. she's being ridiculed by the entire internet. but SHE'S the grifter?

and not dylan mulvaney? who was a fucking nobody until like a year ago? who has made absolute bank off his trans identity? who met the fucking PRESIDENT? who has 10 million followers on tiktok? who is getting a million sponsors solely because of his trans identity? he's somehow not the grifter? please explain i am confusion.
 
and not dylan mulvaney? who was a fucking nobody until like a year ago? who has made absolute bank off his trans identity? who met the fucking PRESIDENT? who has 10 million followers on tiktok? who is getting a million sponsors solely because of his trans identity? he's somehow not the grifter? please explain i am confusion.
THIS!Out of all TIMs Dylan is the most obvious one who is bullshitting.He went from a famous gay theater boy to suddenly coming out and says "Guys i'm not really gay.I'm actually a trans woman."during the end of the pandemic.His days of girlhood are nothing but sexist stereotypes like calling his body parts things like "barbie pouch", and dressing like a 1950s house wife.Not only that but is there any evidence that he really got bottom surgery, or even started HRT?He literally looks like a dude in drag, and doesn't even attempt to transition.Not only that, he can't even keep up with what his sexuality, or gender is because he attempted to claim he was non binary as well with using they/them pronouns.He also said that ever since he HRT that he might be turning into a lesbian.Again, why is no leftist questioning this obvious grifter's contradicting statements?This just proves to me that Dylan could keep changing his identity and gullible leftist will continue to believe him because they've literally convinced themselves that no one would lie about their trans identity.
 
THIS!Out of all TIMs Dylan is the most obvious one who is bullshitting.He went from a famous gay theater boy to suddenly coming out and says "Guys i'm not really gay.I'm actually a trans woman."during the end of the pandemic.His days of girlhood are nothing but sexist stereotypes like calling his body parts things like "barbie pouch", and dressing like a 1950s house wife.Not only that but is there any evidence that he really got bottom surgery, or even started HRT?He literally looks like a dude in drag, and doesn't even attempt to transition.Not only that, he can't even keep up with what his sexuality, or gender is because he attempted to claim he was non binary as well with using they/them pronouns.He also said that ever since he HRT that he might be turning into a lesbian.Again, why is no leftist questioning this obvious grifter's contradicting statements?This just proves to me that Dylan could keep changing his identity and gullible leftist will continue to believe him because they've literally convinced themselves that no one would lie about their trans identity.
He has had FFS. I think the jury’s still out on whether he’s on HRT, but his curves certainly rely more on Photoshop and padding than chemistry. He’s never claimed to have had SRS.

It’s my tinfoil-hat belief that Dylan exists as a “safe” trans woman. The trouble with trans people is that they have an unfortunate tendency to be fucking mental. Having one represent your brand carries risks that they’ll rape someone, say something inappropriate or 41% themselves. Plus they’re invariably hideous and socially awkward, so it’s a matter of when, not if, they fuck everything up.

Dylan transitioned to accelerate his career, retaining his male name so he could easily switch without affecting his resumé. His publicists pushed him as a safe troon, and suddenly he was everywhere as brands, celebrities and politicians raced to show how pro-trans they were.

Now, I have no proof of any of this, but it seems strange that so many people who had been prominent in the trans community struggle to hit the mainstream, while someone who was a gay man less than a year previously is everywhere.

As for the nonbinary and lesbian schtick, I think that’s just a desperate attempt to stay famous as people get tired of the bit. In the case of the nonbinary thing, it’s to give him a way out of troonery without admitting it’s an act.
 
@TruffleSpark That reminds me of a debate I saw a month or so back where it occurred to me ( or dug the idea out of some dusty corner of my brain) that in a weird way trans has become like an atheist Pascal's Wager. A belief they insist has no cost and only benefits the world, which if nothing else you should just pretend to believe in or you're a nasty old cunt who should get raped to death with by dainty girl dick.
 
It’s my tinfoil-hat belief that Dylan exists as a “safe” trans woman. The trouble with trans people is that they have an unfortunate tendency to be fucking mental. Having one represent your brand carries risks that they’ll rape someone, say something inappropriate or 41% themselves. Plus they’re invariably hideous and socially awkward, so it’s a matter of when, not if, they fuck everything up.
I agree. Troons only got this much acceptance because they fooled everyone into thinking they're, at worst, harmless HSTS gay besties, but people began to realize that troons are mostly AGP weirdos who are, at best, awkward neckbeards who lack any sense of boundaries and, at worst, full-on violent rapists, pedophiles, and criminals who want to be in women's prisons. They needed to reinforce to the general public that most troons aren't AGP neckbeards, so they're using Dylan, who is every gay stereotype personified (a campy, flamboyant theatre kid who acts like a caffeinated rabbit), to this end.
 
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