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My sleep schedule got thrown off yesterday and now I'm sitting around in the middle of the night drinking mulled apple cider and reading kiwi farms like some kind of loser. Very sad.

People say it's so easy as "Just love yourself. Do things for you." But those people probably don't even have to worry about that sort of situation. It's really easy to say that sort of thing when they have a positive feedback loop going in the first place. Some people just have no idea the kind of state someone gets to when they just would like to mean enough to a single person. I don't think it's even human to just be happy with yourself, or enjoy solitude.
Homey, you're one of the most neurotic people I've encountered on this site. What you need to worry about is cutting the amount you obsess over everything down by like 97%.

You aren't supposed to love yourself, you just don't have that many opinions about yourself. Idk I'm some guy, who gives a shit.

I don't know if that's like a health thing, that tends to have more of an effect on OCD symptoms than people realize, maybe you need to get up and move more, but thinking around in circles about literally everything constantly is not healthy and it's going to make you seem overly intense and needy which people aren't going to want to be around.

You're giving in to the illusion that if you just think hard enough you'll eventually be able to develop control, but that's exactly what that is, an illusion.

You need to focus on controlling and suppressing the OCD stuff rather than indulging it constantly. I can tell you that even as a stranger on the internet. Look it up if you have to.
 
I get it. I guess the real conundrum for me is the fact they weren't all this vile hive of scum and villainy. They weren't completely fake. There was a woman there that legitimately in a number of ways was really supportive of me.
That's what makes the fact that it all seemed to evaporate so fast fuck with me. I really don't think I was in the wrong so I can't internalize it. But I also can't say "Fuck those haters, I was just too cool for the room!1!"
Life is all about what you're willing to forgive. Its unlikely to work out or ever be as close as before but you can try to reach out to them.
 
Homey, you're one of the most neurotic people I've encountered on this site. What you need to worry about is cutting the amount you obsess over everything down by like 97%.

You aren't supposed to love yourself, you just don't have that many opinions about yourself. Idk I'm some guy, who gives a shit.

I don't know if that's like a health thing, that tends to have more of an effect on OCD symptoms than people realize, maybe you need to get up and move more, but thinking around in circles about literally everything constantly is not healthy and it's going to make you seem overly intense and needy which people aren't going to want to be around.

You're giving in to the illusion that if you just think hard enough you'll eventually be able to develop control, but that's exactly what that is, an illusion.

You need to focus on controlling and suppressing the OCD stuff rather than indulging it constantly. I can tell you that even as a stranger on the internet. Look it up if you have to.
Appreciate it. It's just... I don't know how to even do that. I obviously don't enjoy it. But I can't... not think.
My job is laborious, and I go for walks. I'm active enough. I don't know the answer, or if there is one.
I wish I could just enjoy the moment, but I haven't for a while. I don't like being this way. I'm not OCD, but I generally can't stop this sort of recycling of memories and over-analyzing.
 
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Out of curiosity, what advice did the dietician give you?
was the usual stuff like needing to be more mindful of portion sizes
eat plenty of protein
drink water
things you would probably think to do on your own etc.

for me new things i learned about that i hadn't taken into consideration before like
-watch my salt intake, nobody told me that could affect your health but i guess i understand why low sodium versions of food exist now
-record your progress regularly, they told me i should try something called a food diary which i should use to write down what i am eating, how much i am eating and where i eat it at. they also suggested doing the thing where you take a picture of yourself in the mirror everyday as a form of visual progress
-eating slowlly
 
I have been hurting someone very close to me for a long time and today I am taking the first step towards really fixing it that isn’t just words.
Glad to see it Olive Garden. I know it's you. Your bread sticks are cabbage.

Moving day!...and packing day! I should be able to do it. But as long as I get the big stuff, I have a few weeks to move anything I leave here. Perks of paying for two apartments at once I suppose.
 
Replaced the knock sensor in a car with my dad. Learned I could have done it by myself but when I tried to, the engine was hot. He helped out a lot because I’m not educated on what or how to use certain tools in car repair, however, it was my smaller hands that could fit the sensor in. My hand could barely squeeze through the other car parts in the way though. Dad kept telling that I actually did the fixing since I took the engine covers off (it’s just removing a bunch of snap-offs) and located/fitted the sensor so I told him that his help and wisdom is what really helped me. Which honestly is true.

I’m now thinking about trying to rebuild or swap out an engine in an old Honda civic. Something my dad doesn’t want to do because he’s getting old and doesn’t feel like working on that car but now has shown me what tools he has that I could use to problem solve the engine because I’m interested now. I’m gonna do my research and study up before I take on such a project.
 
I have a heat pump, a year or two ago it was having problems starting in cold weather. Diagnostics told me it was the outside fan motor sensor, which of course needs a new motor. I bought one, set it aside until it finished failing. This winter it worked for a while and finally stopped entirely. So I gathered the tools and went to remove the fan from the motor.... stuck tight, checked on-line, "remove fan"... well, that's helpful. Turns out the motor shaft is not stainless steel, so it wasn't coming off, ever. Ordered new fan, maybe next weekend it won't rain and I'll be able to finish the project.
 
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I wish I could just wipe it away. Just forget it all or compartmentalize it and move on. But I just feel this huge absence. Every morning I wake up and it just hits me "Oh, this is the life I'm in now. That happened."
:feels:

It's something I can barely do even with toxic people.
This is a clue. You do not have to let people prove beyond 50 chances that they aren't a good element in your life. And if you do that (I have been there), then that's probably 48 too many chances/ flags/ disappointments. You've got to find your own self that doesn't hold on to negative elements just to try to wring out the minimal thing you crave. Don't be a beggar for love, amity, or acceptance. You're not a bad person if you do - but you don't need to do that. You'll feel far better if you can identify negative drags on your energy and cut them, rather than sticking it out for good-hearted reasons. Learn to listen to your intuition, and to hone it.

But liking yourself first is probably the secret to keeping people around anyways.
But you just can't do that.
You get it, but you don't want to get it. Like, love, honor, and respect yourself first. If you do that, you'll have better discernment and will better gauge connection. It's not about, "how do I ensure people I like stick around?" - it's about valuing what you have to offer and identifying whether your draw to people/a person is worth your deep investment, and understanding why you're drawn through a self-aware lens.

When I went through my own reckoning, I ultimately analyzed whether my efforts to create or preserve intimacy with certain people were respectful to myself. After a hard inventory, I cut out 95% of the people in my life. That wasn't easy, and occasionally I still have an urge to reach out to someone I once knew. But then I re-center, remember why I took the actions I did, and so far, after remembering why I cut them - and now free of the dysfunctional reasons I kept them to begin with - I haven't reached ou, even though I have fond memories or felt (was) very intimately connected with them at one time.

And one measure I use to assess whether it is worth reaching out again is whether, or how, I have heard from them. No? That says something. If yes - Is it genuine interest in me? Do I feel valued, or do they want something? Am I just feeling nostalgia or a familiar tug (for approval or whatever) that I know isn't healthy?

But to do any of that, you HAVE to develop a better sense of self.

Appreciate it. It's just... I don't know how to even do that. I obviously don't enjoy it. But I can't... not think.
My job is laborious, and I go for walks. I'm active enough. I don't know the answer, or if there is one.
I wish I could just enjoy the moment, but I haven't for a while. I don't like being this way. I'm not OCD, but I generally can't stop this sort of recycling of memories and over-analyzing.

That's called rumination, babe. And the link I gave is just a high-level definition. I think they have suggestions about dealing with it, but I linked it for the definition. It is worth seeking out more in-depth discussions and tactics. Because it is debilitating, but it CAN be improved...or even basically eliminated. Those thoughts - that revisiting things over and over - is damaging you and in your way.

I've kind of stopped offering specific advice/techniques, but for you, I'm going to recommend meditation practice. Just the simplest - sitting and focusing your mind literally on the experience of breathing in through your nose and out. It can be a little surprising to try to zero your entire mind on that sensation - it's simultaneously harder, easier, more frustrating, and more calming than it might sound. And maybe someone starting out can rid themselves of everything else for just 2 seconds, 20 seconds, not at all, or 2 minutes - it doesn't matter. It's low risk and high reward to try. You can search combinations of Buddhist and breathing and meditation (or skip the Buddhist if it bothers you). There are tons of resources for it. And for an app to help I recommend Insight Timer. I pay for it bc I sometimes do live sessions, but there is a ton there for free. Quieting your mind, even for 20 seconds at a time to start, could potentially alleviate a lot of that feeling of burden weighing on you. I can say that this practice, along with other things, saved my life at one point. Didn't solve everything, but it was one very useful tool in the bag, and helped set the stage for other things.

The noise can be deafening. Finding and getting comfortable with a couple minutes of quiet can be astonishing.

And as I've done before, I recommend this book, if not now, then at some point. I may have linked a place to download it for free earlier in this thread. Branden is old-school and was talking about this in the 50s, and he had zero interest in woo-woo concepts of self-esteem and the like. His approach is very rational.

And I cannot vouch for this whole video, but it is one that seems to touch on some of the book's concepts. And here is apparently the author reading the book. I'm more a fan of reading new concepts, but I know some prefer aural, so I added it. (And I just started listening to it now as I found it for you - and wow, I'm more into listening to it than I'd expected to be. There's about 5 minutes of intro, but it's worth the time to get into it. Around about 13 minutes it gets real and after that is packed with so much. But the intro is important, do the whole thing.
 
And I cannot vouch for this whole video, but it is one that seems to touch on some of the book's concepts. And here is apparently the author reading the book. I'm more a fan of reading new concepts, but I know some prefer aural, so I added it. (And I just started listening to it now as I found it for you - and wow, I'm more into listening to it than I'd expected to be. There's about 5 minutes of intro, but it's worth the time to get into it. Around about 13 minutes it gets real and after that is packed with so much. But the intro is important, do the whole thing.
The funniest thing is I think I might have started listening to that book a year ago, and of course I gave up halfway through because "this is just pointless self help shit that's getting in the way of me ruminating and being miserable" and discarded it. :lit:
I will try it again.

Thank you again for all the times you've helped me with my... you know.
It is just funny you know? It's weird how they always target the ones least deserving of animosity. The fact that you're one of the most based posters here and you of all people had to deal with a malignant narc (well several, probably), yet you still didn't become bitter and offer olive branches to random people you don't know and try to still be kind. Seeing that kind of thing kind of steamrolls over my whole 'nurture' idea of how much you should or shouldn't hold people accountable for things going wrong in their life.
I know I've said this a lot but I'm going to try actively working the next couple of weeks on the things people have told me here. I'm screencapping a lot of the best stuff I've seen on here (not just direct advice but general posts).

Thought you might find this funny though.
Saw someone from the past recently (not the one I've brought up, yep there's a couple... what a surprise). In his own words:
"Someone told me recently I'm a narcissist. So I decided to talk to my therapist and he told me how
generally narcissists don't generally ask if they're narcissists."
....

:story:
Holy shit! He actually pulled that one! I had to hold back the belly laugh.
 
I'm not a communist or anything, but I get why the antiwork people hate work. Work sucks and I don't want to have to work tomorrow, especially for someone who doesn't appreciate the work I do (and I'm really goddamn good at what I do).
I hope you can power through.
Like many things the antiwork community started out as reasonable and beneficial (pointing out workplace practices that are actually fucked up) and only later got pozzed by reddit tranny commies who get triggered by the thought of lifting a finger.
 
Things are good. Had a relaxing weekend.

I just wish I had a plan, something important to me to work towards or maintain. I don't feel satisfied. I always hoped I'd just naturally find my reason to exist. Currently, my reason to live is just that I don't want to die. I know there's more to life than this, though - I've briefly felt it in the past, but it never seems to last very long. Brief periods where I feel content with my place in the world and feel the meaning of what I do.

One day, I'll find it. I hope I'm not too old to enjoy it when I do, though, as I've watched that happen to many people.
 
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I don't want to have to work tomorrow, especially for someone who doesn't appreciate the work I do (and I'm really goddamn good at what I do).
I was in a similar boat for the past 8 years. I know nothing about you or your situation, but I hope it either turns around for you/something lines up for you to be able to move on to a place that better appreciates your work. Last Wednesday was my last day at a place that I've essentially kept the day to day running by myself. You can only put up with that shit for so long. I was at the point where I felt like I was just driving home to get ready for work the next day, and I was bringing my family and friends down with me because I couldn't even be happy on weekends, I would get home Friday night and already be stressed at the thought of going back to work Monday. They had the audacity to get pissed at me for leaving, despite the fact that I gave them a 3 month heads up that I got a better job offer and someone needed to start shadowing me to learn what I did every day. Nobody did it, so I had zero qualms about leaving them out to dry.
 
I want to lighten the mood a little.

I have frostbite on my ass.

Like, a two-inch spot of low-level frostbite on just one cheek. Nowhere else on my entire body. It's more or less comparable to razor burn in terms of tenderness.

It came from cryotherapy. I'm kind of fine with people laughing at that.

Why am I doing this, you might ask? Well, I've heard good things that it helps with certain skin conditions, so I figured I'd give it a shot. I tend to be a guinea pig for shit like this among people I know because I'm just a naturally curious person and I learn best from doing. So, I'm trying it.
 
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