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Nah I’ve given up on women. At least for now. I’ve dated like 3 girls in the past 4 years and it hasn’t gotten me anywhere
In my experience the best way to get into a relationship is to stop looking for one, and/or start planning to move to a new city. People react to desperation, so going about your business instead of being thirsty communicates that your life is going well for the most part.

As for leaving your current city... idk. Every time I do this, some guy crawls out of the woodwork. Relative scarcity, I guess (ooh, better put the moves on her now, before she's gone!)
 
How do women interact with a woman who possesses obvious beauty in the workplace or social settings? Do you notice how men interact with them, and do you feel it is diffrent than the way they interact with you or other women of average etc looks?
 

This article is unrelated to the study that Dr. James Swain conducted, and this one points out how doctors are encouraging "gentle" c-sections to encourage bonding similar to natural births; if C-sections were no different then this wouldn't be necessary:

This one is also unrelated to Dr. Swain's study, and tries to downplay any fears mothers may have regarding the operation. Again, these reassuring articles would not exist if there wasn't suspicion in the first place:

This is only a small sample of the amount of documentation surrounding mothers not properly bonding with their children. As @TapewormSalesman pointed out there are situations where c-sections are necessary to save the lives of the mother and infant, but that does nothing to invalidate the decades of observation and concern surrounding the procedure that has resulted in certain women just flat out not connecting with their own flesh and blood.
Helpfully (not), we have very little quality data on postnatal outcomes where there was a significant medical event or the woman self reported finding the event very distressing.

In short: we know some women experience a level of PTSD following difficult births - particularly emergency sections - but we haven't done enough long term follow up on those mothers and babies to be clear how often and in what ways that experience of trauma influences postnatal mental health.

One of the first and most quickly noticed signs of a classical postnatal depression presentation is difficulty bonding with the baby. It is the reason you will be asked to bring the baby to any postnatal mental health consultation.
 
How do women interact with a woman who possesses obvious beauty in the workplace or social settings? Do you notice how men interact with them, and do you feel it is diffrent than the way they interact with you or other women of average etc looks?
Never worked with someone more attractive than me (I live in a country of 3/10's) but I always seem to end up in friend groups online with women more attractive than me. I notice guys are way nicer to them, less playfully mean, and generally talk down to them like they're kids. Weeby men also tend to overlly use anime girl reaction gifs with them kek, no idea why, maybe to appear softer and less threatning? It doesn't bother me, if anything my mid looks means guys treat me like a person and not a potential online waifu.
 
How do women interact with a woman who possesses obvious beauty in the workplace or social settings?
Surprisingly, the beauty of a woman is not a good indicator of how "dangerous" she is to me in a workplace setting. Other things are much better predictors of conflict.

Do you notice how men interact with them, and do you feel it is diffrent than the way they interact with you or other women of average etc looks?
Yes, and it definitely is different. The reverse is true, too. Going back to the "they don't see unattractive women as women" thing, I can absolutely vouch for that being true in professional settings.

That said, some of the worst/strangest stories I've heard involving male/female interactions in the workplace are the "unseen" things where men and women will do things when no one is looking or when it's not obvious, and being the austistic sperg I am, I missed a lot of things that were apparently obvious to other people.

As an anonymized example, I once worked a job where the most attractive women in the office was romantically entangled with the boss. I had no idea, none, that he was the type of man to shit where he ate nor that she was interested in him. It only became obvious to me during the guy's going-away party outside of office hours when he got poached to another company. Everyone else was acting like they'd known for years and I'm just sitting there like O_o?
 
Everyone has small hobbies and I am no exception it's just I don't think mine are particularly impressive. {...} Although these things bring me joy and meaning, I don't see them as being attractive or anything a woman would care about, so I didn't count them in the question.
I was actually hoping somebody would provide a response like this, because this is oftentimes how I feel about my own interests. They're not anything so embarrassing that I can't mention them in mixed company, but probably so niche and difficult to share with somebody that I often feel there's not a point in bringing them to the table, and that feels about as valuable as having none at all. I have things that get me very excited to do and talk about, but I just don't feel like anybody in their right mind would get anything out of it themselves. When I keep them out of consideration I genuinely feel boring, which seems to one of the bigger turn-offs early in the thread (I'm still on the first couple pages).
 
How do I hide my true feelings when a woman tells me that she's seen a ghost or demon, experienced psychic phenomena, or talks about a person's zodiac sign as if it was something meaningful? This has ruined more than one promising date.
 
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How do I hide my true feelings when a woman tells me that she's seen a ghost or demon, experienced psychic phenomena, or talks about a person's zodiac sign as if it was something meaningful? This has ruined more than one promising date.

If someone claims to have seen a demon, end the date immediately and ghost them. There's no redeeming traits that can compensate for that kind of crazy.

If someone claims to have seen a ghost, tell them you're a skeptic but give them a chance. Try joking with them about any eerie phenomena you've experienced yourself that turned out to be something silly. If they aren't being too serious about their claims and are willing to joke about whether they actually saw a ghost or not, then there is still potential in them as partners.

Psychic phenomena- see how serious they are. If they're really pretentious and get offended that you're skeptical, then they're not for you anyway.

As for Zodiac signs, they can be fun and are just a trendy thing to discuss for some girls. Again, just see how serious she is. If she's only willing to date someone whose birthdate complements their own on some fabricated pseudo-cosmic level, then she's also not the girl for you.

Don't struggle too hard to hide your skepticism, except with the girl who sees demons. She is fucking nuts, and you really don't want to trigger the psychosis by laughing.
 
How do I hide my true feelings when a woman tells me that she's seen a ghost or demon, experienced psychic phenomena, or talks about a person's zodiac sign as if it was something meaningful? This has ruined more than one promising date.
As @suspended animation pointed out.

There is potential for some of these women to be fun people. Depending on how they react to your skeptisism.

I myself, want to believe in all that spooky supernatural shit but I see it kind of like a fun little interest and hobby. Not salting the ground and lining my window sill with crystals to ward off demons and spirits, more of, it would be pretty neat if we discovered something so huge and unknown like that. My boyfriend, while not fully believing, does get a little creeped out, and it can be kind of fun to spook him in the middle of the night by saying I saw something move in the mirror, if that's the sort of light teasing you're into in a relationship.

I'd definitely raise some eyebrows at a man or woman that takes is more seriously than that though.

Once someone into zodiac moves passed the "reading a fun little horoscope daily in the app" to "let me do a tarot reading, what's your moon and rising" and "oh haha don't mind me just a Sagittarius moment xD" I would start to suggest a little caution.
 
Nah I’ve given up on women. At least for now. I’ve dated like 3 girls in the past 4 years and it hasn’t gotten me anywhere
Okay dont make me tap the sign be specific your age group under 25 , 25-30, 30-35, 35-40, 40+ , what ages are they, continent you are on ffs, how far did you get up 3 dates, 3-10 dates several months. How far are you in career vise : in education, starting career/ journemanship fairly settled in career, no plans for career general unskilled labor,size of city you live in bughive 1mil +, normie tier city 500k to 1 mil, smaller city 100k to 500k , town less than 100k , semirrural some adjacent town with 10k + people bumfuck nowhere less than 5 k people.

How broke are you have a house, rent live alone, rent live with roomates, live with mom and dad .
In my experience the best way to get into a relationship is to stop looking for one, and/or start planning to move to a new city. People react to desperation, so going about your business instead of being thirsty communicates that your life is going well for the most part.

As for leaving your current city... idk. Every time I do this, some guy crawls out of the woodwork. Relative scarcity, I guess (ooh, better put the moves on her now, before she's gone!)
Its not about leaving or not women once ditch you they have made the decision its rarely changed and they won't show up trying to get their dick wet, he doesn't sound desperate because he already got his foot in the door 4 times i e gotten a date so we need to investigate what are the issues.
I was actually hoping somebody would provide a response like this, because this is oftentimes how I feel about my own interests. They're not anything so embarrassing that I can't mention them in mixed company, but probably so niche and difficult to share with somebody that I often feel there's not a point in bringing them to the table, and that feels about as valuable as having none at all. I have things that get me very excited to do and talk about, but I just don't feel like anybody in their right mind would get anything out of it themselves. When I keep them out of consideration I genuinely feel boring, which seems to one of the bigger turn-offs early in the thread (I'm still on the first couple pages).
Just say them i am genuinely curious about other people hobbies its better than no hobbies or just gaming as an answer . If she is interested will hear you out .
How do I hide my true feelings when a woman tells me that she's seen a ghost or demon, experienced psychic phenomena, or talks about a person's zodiac sign as if it was something meaningful? This has ruined more than one promising date.
Seriously where do you find these women . Under a bridge? I never gotten asked about my sign unless we get into woo woo stuff talking.
 
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Okay dont make me tap the sign be specific your age group under 25 , 25-30, 30-35, 35-40, 40+ , what ages are they, continent you are on ffs, how far did you get up 3 dates, 3-10 dates several months. How far are you in career vise : in education, starting career/ journemanship fairly settled in career, no plans for career general unskilled labor,size of city you live in bughive 1mil +, normie tier city 500k to 1 mil, smaller city 100k to 500k , town less than 100k , semirrural some adjacent town with 10k + people bumfuck nowhere less than 5 k people.

How broke are you have a house, rent live alone, rent live with roomates, live with mom and dad .
>just let me data mine you and try to dox you
Nah, I’m good.
>inb4 “you posted in the advice thread”
 
I have things that get me very excited to do and talk about, but I just don't feel like anybody in their right mind would get anything out of it themselves.
I think you're being overly pessimistic and it's holding you back. I'm sure many a young lady would appreciate being explained the difficulties in reconciling the logistics of getting rid of six million corpses in just four years with the general scarcity of machinery, fuel and manpower in the early to mid 1940ies over a glass of wine and some scented candles. Women love genuine passion and enthusiasm.
 
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