Culture A ‘failure to launch’: Why young people are having less sex - For what researchers say is an array of reasons millennials and now Gen Zers are having less sex, with fewer partners, than their parents’ and grandparents.

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(Patrick Hruby / Los Angeles Times)

Vivian Rhodes figured she would eventually have sex.

She was raised in a Christian household in Washington state and thought sex before marriage would be the ultimate rebellion. But then college came and went — and no sex. Even flirting “felt unnatural,” she said.

In her early 20s, she watched someone she followed on Tumblr come out as asexual and realized that’s how she felt: She had yet to develop romantic feelings for anyone, and the physical act of sex just didn’t sound appealing.

“Some people assume this is about shaming other people, and it’s not,” said Rhodes, 28, who works as a certified nursing assistant in Los Angeles. “I’m glad people have fun with it and it works for them. But I think sex is kind of gross. It seems very messy, and it’s vulnerable in a way that I think would be very uncomfortable.”

For what researchers say is an array of reasons — including technology, heavy academic schedules and an overall slower-motion process of growing up — millennials and now Gen Zers are having less sex, with fewer partners, than their parents’ and grandparents’ generations did. The social isolation and transmission scares of the COVID-19 pandemic have no doubt played a role in the shift. But researchers say that’s not the whole story: The “no rush for sex” trend predates the pandemic, according to a solid body of research.

UCLA has been tracking behavioral trends for years through its annual California Health Interview Survey, the largest state health survey in the nation. It includes questions about sexual activity. In 2021, the survey found, the number of young Californians ages 18 to 30 who reported having no sexual partners in the prior year reached a decade high of 38%. In 2011, 22% of young people reported having no sexual partners during the prior year, and the percentage climbed fairly steadily as the decade progressed.

California adults ages 35 to 50 who participated in UCLA’s 2021 survey also registered an increase in abstinence from 2011 to 2021. But with the percentage of “no sex” respondents rising from 9% to 14% during that time frame, the increase was not as pronounced.

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The University of Chicago’s General Social Survey — which has been following shifts in Americans’ behavioral trends for decades — found that 3 in 10 Generation Z males, ages 18 to 25, surveyed in 2021 reported having gone without sex the prior year. One in four Gen Z women also reported having had no sex the prior year, according to Jean Twenge, a San Diego State University psychology professor who reviewed the data for her book “Generations.”

In an age where hook-ups might seem as unlimited as a right swipe on a dating app, it’s easy to assume that Gen Z “should be having the time of their lives sexually,” Twenge said.

But that’s not how it’s playing out. Twenge said the decline has been underway for roughly two decades.

She attributed the slowdown in sexual relations most significantly to what she calls the “slow-life factor.” Young people just aren’t growing up as fast as they once did. They’re delaying big milestones such as getting their driver’s licenses and going to college. And they’re living at home with their parents a lot longer.

“In times and places where people live longer and education takes longer, the whole developmental trajectory slows down,” she said. “And so for teens and young adults, one place that you’re going to notice that is in terms of dating and romantic relationships and sexuality.”

A slight majority of 18- to 30-year-olds — about 52% — reported having one sexual partner in 2021, a decrease from 2020, according to the UCLA survey. The proportion of young adults who reported having two or more sexual partners also declined, from 23% in 2011 to 10% in 2021.

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Though sex was on the decline in the years leading into the pandemic, COVID-19 made dating trickier.

Many people tightened their social circles when the pandemic surged in 2020 and 2021. And young people’s reliance on cellphones and apps for their social interactions only intensified when in-person meet-ups posed a risk of serious illness.

In general, people coming of age in an era of dating apps say the notion of starting a relationship with someone they meet in person — say a chance encounter at a bar or dance club — seems like a piece of nostalgia. Even friendships are increasingly forged over texting and video chats.

“A lot of young people when you talk to them will say their best friends are people they’ve never met,” said Jessica Borelli, a professor of psychological science at UC Irvine. “Sometimes they live across the country or in other countries, and yet they have these very intimate relationships with them. … The in-person interface is not nearly as essential for the development of intimacy as it might be for older people.”

Ivanna Zuniga, 22, who recently graduated from UC Irvine with a degree in psychological sciences, said her peers have largely delayed sex and romance to focus on education and career. Zuniga, who is bisexual, has been with her partner for about four years. But their sex life is sporadic, she said, adding that they hadn’t been intimate in the month leading up to her graduation.

“I’ve been really preoccupied with my studies, and I’m always stressed because of all the things I have going on,” she said. “My libido is always shot, and I don’t really ever think about sex.”

The sexless phenomenon has made its way into pop culture. Gone are the days when meet-cutes in bars leading to one-night stands and sex at college parties were the cornerstone of coupling in films.

In “No Hard Feelings,” released this year, a 32-year-old woman is hired by “helicopter parents” to deflower their shy 19-year-old son. At a party, the woman frantically searching for her date busts open bedroom doors where she expects to find people feverishly tangled in sheets. Instead, she finds teens sitting side by side on a bed, fully clothed, scrolling their phones or playing virtual reality games. Bemused, she yells, “Doesn’t anyone f— anymore?”

While there are practical benefits to waiting to be in a physical relationship, including less risk of sexually transmitted diseases and unplanned pregnancy, Twenge argued that there are also downsides to young people eschewing sex and, more broadly, intimacy. Unhappiness and depression are at all-time highs among young adults, trend lines Twenge ties to the rise of smartphones and social media. And she noted with concern the steady decline in the birth rate.

“It creates the question of whether Social Security can survive,” Twenge said. “Will there be enough young workers to support older people in the system? Will there be enough young workers to take care of older people in nursing homes and in assisted-care facilities?”

Zuniga, who plans to pursue a doctorate in clinical psychology, can’t imagine pausing her education or career to have children, so safe sex is particularly important, she said. Others interviewed said “horror stories” involving friends who contracted herpes or other sexually transmitted infections had turned them off from casual sex.

“I prioritize my studies too much, and I can’t fathom the thought of having my identity as an academic fall secondary to being a mother,” Zuniga said. “Moving out of the income bracket that you’re born into is so hard to do, and a very secure way to do it is through education.”

For Rhodes, not having sex has taken a lot of the pressure off social interactions.

“It lets me relax,” she said. “It’s not that I don’t care about how I look or how I come off to other people. But I have a little extra help caring less about it, because I don’t have to worry about attracting specific kinds of people for specific things.”

And she pushes back against the notion that shying away from sex is some sort of societal problem that needs to be “fixed.” It might even be a sign that young people have more control of their bodies and desires, she said.

“Maybe you don’t have to have sex all the time,” Rhodes said. “Maybe if you’re doing other things in your life, and you’ve got other priorities, or you just don’t feel like it, that can be a good enough answer.”

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Well, i kind of only made my first point from the women's perspective for the sake of my arguement, but the truth is that both men and women have been conditioned to avoid each other. Everything women are told from kindergarten is that "the boys are bad and will hurt you" and the boys are pretty much told the same thing. And thats before getting into the actual ways boys and girls are socialized and treated. Girls are treated like princesses and boys like diseased dogs.
oh yeah I was just adding on how even if women weren't conditioned like that and approached, how exactly would this generation of autist men take it?

But yeah agreed I think for a while man were still being conditioned with the women are wonderful schtick largely due to media but now it seems even without direct programming men are more avoidant either through genuine disinterest, series of bad relationships, seeing relationships around them not going great, or some are getting into those redpill/mgtow spaces and getting disengaged that way.

I think too the political divides and lack of trust in society has been a killshot to these relations as well. I've personally experienced it in college, hard to really be yourself around women cause you don't know how many are insufferable libtards that will roast you over the coals for wrongthink. And I don't just mean being able to say nigger or w/e but just thinking you should be allowed to have borders has had me unfriended by some women back when I used to have social media. COVID I'm sure did a shitload of damage too making everyone paranoid over catching a disease or running into a self appointed covid stasi member.
 
oh yeah I was just adding on how even if women weren't conditioned like that and approached, how exactly would this generation of autist men take it?

But yeah agreed I think for a while man were still being conditioned with the women are wonderful schtick largely due to media but now it seems even without direct programming men are more avoidant either through genuine disinterest, series of bad relationships, seeing relationships around them not going great, or some are getting into those redpill/mgtow spaces and getting disengaged that way.

I think too the political divides and lack of trust in society has been a killshot to these relations as well. I've personally experienced it in college, hard to really be yourself around women cause you don't know how many are insufferable libtards that will roast you over the coals for wrongthink. And I don't just mean being able to say nigger or w/e but just thinking you should be allowed to have borders has had me unfriended by some women back when I used to have social media. COVID I'm sure did a shitload of damage too making everyone paranoid over catching a disease or running into a self appointed covid stasi member.
Just because the segment of society that agrees with you is going to incel themselves into extinction, that doesn’t mean the species is going to commit suicide with you.

Your self hatred managed to defeat your mating instinct, and nature decrees that you win the Darwin Award. Crying and acting aggrieved obviously doesn’t change that.
 
I've personally experienced it in college, hard to really be yourself around women cause you don't know how many are insufferable libtards that will roast you over the coals for wrongthink. And I don't just mean being able to say nigger or w/e but just thinking you should be allowed to have borders has had me unfriended by some women back when I used to have social media. COVID I'm sure did a shitload of damage too making everyone paranoid over catching a disease or running into a self appointed covid stasi member.
You can literally see how unfriendly it is for a sane, straight man just by opening most dating apps. It used to be that dangerhairs and freak-flags were an unpleasant rarity and they were usually deathfats to boot so nothing of value was lost. Now on a quick run with a burner account, a full ~20% of local women about my age came up as automatic "RED ALERT"s due to having shit like being a FtM troon or hardcore feminazi or having 6 different insanity banners on their account.

Those are not things you can fix about a person. You can't talk your way around or 'tolerate' them in a relationship, unless you want to end up a marcel simp that gets paraded around as an 'ally'.

Spergio and many others (especially Boomers) absolutely cannot acknowledge that fact because it would shatter their preconceived worldviews, so they resort to spouting "InSel! InSeL! YoUr'E uN InSeL!" like a broken record.
 
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You can literally see how unfriendly it is for a sane, straight man just by opening most dating apps. It used to be that dangerhairs and freak-flags were an unpleasant rarity and they were usually deathfats to boot so nothing of value was lost. Now on a quick run with a burner account, a full ~20% of local women about my age came up as automatic "RED ALERT"s due to having shit like being a FtM troon or hardcore feminazi or having 6 different insanity banners on their account.

Those are not things you can fix about a person. You can't talk your way around or 'tolerate' them in a relationship, unless you want to end up a marcel simp that gets paraded around as an 'ally'.

Spergio and many others (especially Boomers) absolutely cannot acknowledge that fact because it would shatter their preconceived worldviews, so they resort to spouting "Insel! Insel!" like a broken record.
“Celibate” is spelled with a c. You are involuntarily -celibate-
 
Just because the segment of society that agrees with you is going to incel themselves into extinction, that doesn’t mean the species is going to commit suicide with you.
I don't know where you read that in what I said. Are you hallucinating a version of me that said something along these lines? If you're not then I apologize that my current lack of interest in dating has mentally unbalanced you to the point of making this nonsense post.

At no point did I claim the species was committing suicide, the issue at hand is really only in western countries and even then its concentrated to specific areas. And duh? The people who won't reproduce will not inherit the earth I don't know why your post is phrased as if you're saying anything I don't know? My post was about attempts to white feather men not about species extinction or whatever you're on about.

The people (men and women) who do reproduce instead of crying about "pain" and "being trapped" will secure the future. Its specifically why I made clear in earlier posts it isn't really the dating situation that makes me all that angry but other more dire aspects of clown world. Dating wise the trends I laid out are fun to muse on but they don't really bother me all that much because much like faggotry the whole anti-natalist schtick is a self-defeating phenomena that will collapse in on itself.

You can literally see how unfriendly it is for a sane, straight man just by opening most dating apps
To be fair dating apps aren't really representative of most women you meet IRL. I think the more telling symptoms are things like work/life balance being out of wack, men and women preferring their screens to going out, and of course a general societal paranoia and people digging into their "bubbles" brought on in various ways either through political divisions or just the hollowing out of traditional recreational spaces


agreed on the rest though, its why I'm glad all the women I run into post-college are relatively normal. Mostly apolitical at least. College was an... experience.... especially since most of my time there was under the orange man so TDS was incredibly prevalent. No fixing or arguing with those people. I have fond memories of getting ranting essays on election night about facism and orange hitler from some girls I was friendly with on election night.
 
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greed on the rest though, its why I'm glad all the women I run into post-college are relatively normal. Mostly apolitical at least.
There, you finally discovered the point that everyone in this thread who has not been incel-tier black pilled has been trying to make over and over again.

Now if you admit that, whats the point of all the complain? Is it just a speech habit you picked up from actually entrenched incels?

If most of the women you meet after college are actually normal, why do we have 11 pages of incel bitching?
 
Now if you admit that, whats the point of all the complain
what complaints nigga you're hallucinating another version of me again. I don't even know how to respond to this because it's clear you didn't read anything I said. I get it you wanna come here to get dopamine from the upstickers for what you think is owning the incel caricatures you're hallucinating in the thread but please keep it for someone who hasn't been on dates in the last few years nor has previously turned down FWBs due to desiring something more serious.

If you can't tell the difference between the EARLIER discussion regarding my personal experience in the recent past where I make it clear the women I were seeing were nice and intelligent enough (and I make it clear its likely my current location and how I'm gonna keep my eyes open during my future travels to other states), but I wasn't just feeling it and some values weren't lined up, and the LATER DIFFERENT discussion that you initially replied to of a tongue in cheek hypothetical situation regarding anti-natalist women trying to white feather disengaged men (something that probably isn't going to happen anyhow but is fun to think and shitpost about) I don't know what to tell you.

Go reply to the guys who routinely mald about android raptor or whatever instead, I think some of their posts were earlier in the thread. Again my apologies my posts have made you so mentally unwell you are currently hallucinating things that didn't happen. and replying to things that no one has said
 
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You can literally see how unfriendly it is for a sane, straight man just by opening most dating apps. It used to be that dangerhairs and freak-flags were an unpleasant rarity and they were usually deathfats to boot so nothing of value was lost.
My answer is simple. Don't use dating apps if they don't work for you. You use what works for you. Go where you can get what you want.

Spergio and many others (especially Boomers) absolutely cannot acknowledge that fact because it would shatter their preconceived worldviews, so they resort to spouting "InSel! InSeL! YoUr'E uN InSeL!" like a broken record.
I'm one of the biggest Red pillers on the Farms but the notion that there are NO women out there is insane. There might not be MANY but they do exist. But that's really not the crux of what I'm trying to argue. The only thing I believe in more firmly over the red pill is the notion of having children.

Any person, man or woman, who doesn't want kids and thinks ending their genetic lineage for any idea or reason is FUCKING RETARDED and the kind of defeated apathy that comes with it is just pathetic.
 
Any person, man or woman, who doesn't want kids and thinks ending their genetic lineage for any idea or reason is FUCKING RETARDED and the kind of defeated apathy that comes with it is just pathetic.
At the end of the day, this is all there is. It’s really fucking grating to listen to people deny the biological imperative. There’s no difference between a right wing incel and a social justice postgraduate student when they both are creating personality disorders in themselves by denying the basics of existing as a human being
 
Just because the segment of society that agrees with you is going to incel themselves into extinction, that doesn’t mean the species is going to commit suicide with you.

Your self hatred managed to defeat your mating instinct, and nature decrees that you win the Darwin Award. Crying and acting aggrieved obviously doesn’t change that.
You're speaking the truth, but telling these guys that the only people they're lashing out at is themselves is pointless. They'd rather believe that them being unemployed, friendless virgins is the norm and will totally lead to western society collapsing then getting their shit together.
 
You're speaking the truth, but telling these guys that the only people they're lashing out at is themselves is pointless. They'd rather believe that them being unemployed, friendless virgins is the norm and will totally lead to western society collapsing then getting their shit together.
It's the autism I can't tolerate. I have no problem with incels. I have a problem with people who don't try.
 
I'm one of the biggest Red pillers on the Farms but the notion that there are NO women out there is insane. There might not be MANY but they do exist. But that's really not the crux of what I'm trying to argue. The only thing I believe in more firmly over the red pill is the notion of having children.
if you're convinced there's literally no one you're either a shut in and should touch grass, or you should move cause if you are active and can't meet anyone worth it, you're in a bug hive or a college campus and should go travel elsewhere. Frankly in my own case a large part of my current apathy comes from being bughive adjacent which is why I always look forward to travelling to other states frequently throughout the year, always gives me a chance to meet better more compatible people. Hopefully I can move sometime soon once I'm done with some certs for work.

Even in my own case I still get myself the occasional date or two despite not trying all that hard and while I'm no grug I'm not exactly uhhh [insert some chad celeb I don't know about here]. Hell I've had better luck when not seeking than I have actively looking funny enough. Though that I would pin on overthinking and stressing out when actively trying. Really only requires one to occasionally shoot their shot if they come across someone promising. Even if it fizzles out due to a lack of passion or shared values or whatever if someone such as me can get to that first step, anyone can.
 
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It's the autism I can't tolerate. I have no problem with incels. I have a problem with people who don't try.
Funny, I've heard the the exact same thing said by numerous other people...and then they, too, lambasted someone who gave up back when his first prom date said "no" with the exact same ferocity as a guy who'd given up after being friendzoned and leftswiped for years.
 
Funny, I've heard the the exact same thing said by numerous other people...and then they, too, lambasted someone who gave up back when his first prom date said "no" with the exact same ferocity as a guy who'd given up after being friendzoned and leftswiped for years.
Yeah, none of that ever applied to me. It didn't happen. When a girl rejected me, I just went to another. Whether it hurt or not. It's a numbers game, and it always has been. As far as being friendzoned goes, I learned a long time ago the only person who puts you into the friendzone is yourself. You can leave it at any time. I also learned a long time ago that you have a better chance of asking out a perfect stranger than you do a woman you see every day. These are obvious things any man should have common knowledge of.
 
It's literally the only thing in life that's worth while for men and women alike. Crazy how all it took was 30 years of psyoping and creature comforts to complete deter men and women from their literal ONLY true purpose on this planet.


Just a date a younger woman who isn't immediately looking for a house. By the time she's old enough to care, you'll probably be able to get one. There's no advantage to dating older women. There never has been. There's always someone whom you're kenough for.
As a Canadian I doubt I'll ever be able to afford a home.
 
I've read of averages like 1 million Canadians dollars. That's not helpful in forming a household, and while rent and house prices aren't necessary in lockstep, they surely track each other.
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Rents are like 1000 minimum, usually more and that's without utilities or the price of groceries factored in. In this economy the idea of trying to date is pretty laughable. Nothing puts a girl off like being told you had to move back in with your family.
 
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Rents are like 1000 minimum, usually more and that's without utilities or the price of groceries factored in. In this economy the idea of trying to date is pretty laughable. Nothing puts a girl off like being told you had to move back in with your family.
I don't agree with communists generally, but they got a point on this subject. Wage slavery is arguably worse than actual slavery because real slavers had to pay for the room and board for their slaves. Corporations give you a pittance and expect you to handle all your living expenses and doesn't care if you become homeless and unemployable. It doesn't matter if your cost of living raise doesn't match inflation and companies do consider it their right to trample on your constitutional rights.
 
I don't agree with communists generally, but they got a point on this subject. Wage slavery is arguably worse than actual slavery because real slavers had to pay for the room and board for their slaves. Corporations give you a pittance and expect you to handle all your living expenses and doesn't care if you become homeless and unemployable. It doesn't matter if your cost of living raise doesn't match inflation and companies do consider it their right to trample on your constitutional rights.
I don't think you need to be a communist to realize that land/wealth distribution going the way it is right now is a great way to kickstart all the pissed off fighting age males to strap on armbands, embrace [insert fringe political outlook here] and start taking scalps. The crazy part is how all of this was very easily avoidable if and could even be avoided now if we didn't have a bunch of geriatric lunatics holding the reigns.
 
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