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Big fan of the broadway show and book. This looks really good.
Wicked. - Based on the musical.
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Big fan of the broadway show and book. This looks really good.
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Imagine Blacking the Wicked Witch of the West. It was already bad enough they made her a sympathetic dorky-outcast-turned-bad because Glenda was secretly a bitch instead of just letting it be that there are just good witches and bad witches. Now they completely threw out all manner of nuance for a "dindu nuffin" message that wasn't.
Bet they kept in the sex from the book, too. Ew.
Bet they kept in the sex from the book, too. Ew.
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It actually makes perfect sense to have a black woman as an ugly, weirdly colored bitch who causes nothing but trouble and steals from everyone. Oh, and hates dogs and doesn't wash.
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Only if they're not trying to make her sympathetic as well. Which is what Wicked does.
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She only wanted mo money fo dem programs and that crakka ass bish Dorothy had to ruin everything
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Real talk tho what is clown world coming to where even Jewish characters are being recasted as Black
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Someone's never met a lesbian in the last 20 years. Literally for the longest time I was under the impression Elphaba was a covert lesbian because of the musical's popularity among the gays.
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that's not specific to this one in particular because all musicals are for faggots
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So a movie adaptation of a musical that was an adaptation of a book that was a fanfic of a movie that was a remake of an adaptation of a book.
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Doesn’t the book make her a giant cunt who abandons her kid and Glenda is less evil and more aloof.
Like Glenda was more fay than human where concepts like morality and morality don’t make sense to her.
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How many holes do you have in your brain to think this looks good?
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Wasn’t there a story on here that showed that Ariana Grande was looking like she was sick? Because if that’s her in the movie, then the makeup department really did a number on her.
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I loved the end of the book. There's something great about giving a fundamentally fucked-up character a natural ending rather than a redemption arc.
I've only read the synopsis of the musical, because in general, I fucking hate musicals, but the difference in ending is stark.
I love the fact that Elphaba just became an emotionally unavailable mother, which was exactly what she would turn out to be given her relationship with both her parents, and then went absolutely batshit nuts over Dorothy because of her daddy issues. Glinda basically tipped her over the edge during the whole Dorothy business by pointing out that getting the slippers back won't make her (dead) daddy love her any more - especially since her now-dead sister to whom daddy gave the shoes was the favorite. Also, she fantasized that the scarecrow was her dead lover, Fiyero.
In the musical, Fiyero IS the scarecrow after all, and Elphaba faked her death, so they get a happy ending together.
Generally, I hate this bullshit where no villain, especially female ones, are not totally bad. They're totally redeemable as long as the fandom claps their hands and believes.
Sometimes people are just bad. Sometimes people just get everything wrong and they don't get a happy ending because they're flawed and have no way of resolving it. Hell, even in the book, Elphaba tried to explain to Fieryo's wife (yes, she was having an affair with him) what happened and that the kid following her around is HIS son, but she wouldn't hear anything of it, and even that went wrong.
It feels so artificial that Elphaba, whose character is literally the embodiment of the saying about the road to hell, but instead, she becomes the avatar for the audience, the one with the deathbed confessional to enter into heaven. It's a fucking cop-out and it panders to the audience.
In the musical, Fiyero IS the scarecrow after all, and Elphaba faked her death, so they get a happy ending together.
Generally, I hate this bullshit where no villain, especially female ones, are not totally bad. They're totally redeemable as long as the fandom claps their hands and believes.
Sometimes people are just bad. Sometimes people just get everything wrong and they don't get a happy ending because they're flawed and have no way of resolving it. Hell, even in the book, Elphaba tried to explain to Fieryo's wife (yes, she was having an affair with him) what happened and that the kid following her around is HIS son, but she wouldn't hear anything of it, and even that went wrong.
It feels so artificial that Elphaba, whose character is literally the embodiment of the saying about the road to hell, but instead, she becomes the avatar for the audience, the one with the deathbed confessional to enter into heaven. It's a fucking cop-out and it panders to the audience.