The most appropriate joke here is "denial isn't just a river in Egypt, honey".
Says the guy who's denying that a game that lets you fuck bears is appealing to furries.
Again, at least with Juhani's case, her dialogue amounts to ''I care about you'' which can be taken either way. Telling a man to transform into a bear before fucking you cannot. The man even warns you that it's dangerous and he can't fully control it, yet the player can still choose to do it. How else can one interpret that scene?
You've gone from "games didn't have explicit scenes until BG3"
I didn't say that. What I said was that other RPGs were less explicit than BG3, which is correct. Mass Effect gives you a shot of a bare ass, ME2 and Witcher 1 pan out as the sex scene happens, KOTOR 1 and FNV black out the screen. Witcher 2 and 3, Cyberpunk, and Kingdom Come Deliverance are explicit, but that's not the norm. BG3 is more like the latter four than the other games.
, to "none of those scenes involved bears". When called out on moving the goalpost from point A to point B, you instead moved it to point C, "games didn't have explicit scenes until BG3, except for the Witcher series". When I called you out on that, you moved it from point C to point D, "those games came out after mass effect 1", which was never the goddamned argument.
I said that ME1's sex scene at the time of its release was rather unique. In 2007, most of the games that you stated that had explicit sex scenes did not exist yet.
Which doesn't mean the game was "clearly designed for" that.
The game designed that scene to appeal to furries, which is what I've been saying.
Just as how Mass Effect 1 designed the Asari to appeal to straight males who like sci-fi. Doesn't mean girls can't get into Mass Effect too, especially since the game has Kaidan, and later, Garrus, Thane, and Jacob, to get the girls wet, but that particular aspect of the game, that being the Asari's design, obviously appeals to straight men.
Leave. The fucking. Goalpost. Alone.
No. Because again, that is the point that people harp on. Again, it's not bad per se, but it is a point.
"DOA is a game clearly designed for people with a fetish for guys in metalic alien gimp suits", because one costume of one character is a guy in a metallic alien gimp suit. When by your own judgement, it's a game for men who like women with big anime titties.
I suppose that one small part of the game is designed for guys/gals with a fetish for dudes in metallic alien gimp suits. But most of the people who buy DOA for its aesthetics are men focusing on the girls with double-d mammaries. Which again, doesn't change the fact that the bear-fucking scene in BG3 was designed with furries in mind.
It was clearly played for humour and you would only get it if you explicitly seeked it out.
There was a choice of six 'relationship' scenes at the Camp celebration scene.
- Stargazing with the amnesiac but pretty goth priestess.
- Having a romantic magic lesson with the wizard.
- Having casual sex with the alien warrior woman.
- Dancing with the nice guy warlock.
- Having a long non-touch night with the barbarian who's literally on fire.
- Being bullshitted by the elf vampire.
You could keep the bear man human, but the live audience chose the wackiest option.
Yes, and in the same vein, you can choose to ignore the sex scenes in Mass Effect, particularly the ones with Liara, Ahsley, or the Consort in the Citadel. Doesn't mean they aren't there, and that they mostly appeal to men. Or lesbians, if you play as a female character then slog Liara.
After this long, autistic argument over what exactly was the first game where you could dip your character's dick in somebody else's hole (probably one of those Atari porn games), fact remains it's coomer bait.
My point exactly. I mean, you can totally ignore the famous sex scenes in Mass Effect and play Shepard as a completely celibate person, but that doesn't mean that the romance options aren't there.
