Trainwreck Jill C Noyes Rodrigues / David Rodrigues / Rodrigues Family Ministries / Rodrigues Family Serving Jesus / All Things Truth Printing Ministry - Batshit MLM-shill narc mom of 13 starving children and her jobless "headship". Grifting and drifting across the US in an RV. Wanted by WV CPS.

You actually can’t homeschool in Germany without extensive checks and a medical or psych reason to. Fundies would hate that.
That makes sense. You don't want some retard keeping their kid out of school because you are mad schools say the earth is older than 6000 years old and not flat and want to lie to your kid. Medical or psych issues like being bullied are the only valid reasons I can see for homeschooling, and not in younger grades where you really need to get basic literacy that could be sabotaged by someone like Jill.
 
As someone with a criminology background I wholeheartedly disagree. Crime is nuanced. The US is insanely hard on certain crimes while being insanely lenient in other areas, and they are a damn mess when it comes to murder trials.

I think intense counselling and perhaps some supervision to help integrate an abused child who killed their parent is far more appropriate than jail time. Obviously cases need to be examined with extreme care and by experts in the field of the psychology of child abuse, but it should be an option. America does love letting the rich and pretty guilty skate free and punishing other people inappropriately though, hence the insane overpopulation in prisons why simultaneously giving slaps on the wrists for dangerous criminal behaviour.

If someone killed Jill I don’t think they’d get much pity. People would think she was just a poor godly woman doing her best, probably. They’re starving because she’s poor! She loves them so much on social media! They always praise her parenting! They never have bruises!
Maybe...didn't lots of people think the Blanchard girls' mother was a saint until after the murder and the MBP stuff came out?

I think there's enough about Jill and Shrek out there to raise reasonable doubt.
Hard to say your kids are starving because of poverty when you and your husband are obese, and you've publicly posted your husband always eats first.
 
I think there's enough about Jill and Shrek out there to raise reasonable doubt.
Hard to say your kids are starving because of poverty when you and your husband are obese, and you've publicly posted your husband always eats first.
As long as Jill lives, she will be a presence in her married daughters' lives constantly prodding, pushing and outright demanding they stay as thin and underfed as possible while having as many GAWDLY babies as possible. She's a menace. I'm not saying she deserves to die, but she absolutely deserves to be punished for the abuse she has given and will continue to give her children.
 
Maybe...didn't lots of people think the Blanchard girls' mother was a saint until after the murder and the MBP stuff came out?

I think there's enough about Jill and Shrek out there to raise reasonable doubt.
Hard to say your kids are starving because of poverty when you and your husband are obese, and you've publicly posted your husband always eats first.

That bit honestly reminds me of North Korea. There was a good film out, indie, that had a former intelligence officer working with the broker networks that get people out of NK, and was able to talk to and shoot film with a defector family literally as soon as they crossed into China. And the family said the chubby pastor who helped them in China reminded them of Kim Jong Un. Because they were both fat, and “Kim is the only fat person in North Korea.” But they actually looked nothing alike.


Let me check my watchlist…yep, it’s called “Beyond Utopia” and is $5-8 or local equivalent on Amazon video.

It’s also interesting for fundie watchers too, because by talking to the family immediately on escape, the film also shows how they left that brainwashing and the Kim cult behind. It’s not so easy as simply getting physically free. I cried at the end, because the family (mom, dad, two kids under ten, grandma), were about to run/sneak in to the embassy of a country that would send them to South Korea rather than deport them back to the North. Very scary time, if they’re caught they’ll be executed on returning to NK.

Yet in those circumstances, the family were trying to calm themselves/not scare or tip off the small kids, so they sang. And the songs they knew…all propaganda. It was ironic and heartbreaking that they would do that on their way to freedom.


I really feel the same way about Jill and Shrek as I do Kim. Ugly, fat tyrants who can’t prioritize their own kids. And the kids don’t even have school or outside friends to get food and positive interaction.

I know what it is to have a mom breathing down your neck about how you eat. I won’t describe, just say there’s a reason I’m the same height as my grandma, who was a toddler when the Great Depression started up, and a full foot shorter than my brother. But I could get food from friends and had enough interaction and unstructured or alone time that I could earn money and buy food.

The Rodlets don’t have outside friends. They can’t go to the bodega or buy lunch at school, all things I did to get enough. Which, IMO, really worsens their nutritional situation.
 
I’m always honestly surprised and amazed how tall the Rodkids are. Usually, with inadequate or wrong food, height and immune systems are the first to go. NGL, I was terrified when the whole pack got COVID.

Because when you’re always low-level hungry and feel bad, you can’t fight off shit.

Based on my own experiences, all those kids need a CBC and full panel of tests. Definitely missing…something. And if you catch it early, it’s cheaper (see, frugal fundies?), easier, and less stressful to treat. Pills as opposed to infusions, which you want to avoid because expense and hassle aside, they tend to physically hurt. Sometimes if not done exactly right, that shit burns.
 
Maybe...didn't lots of people think the Blanchard girls' mother was a saint until after the murder and the MBP stuff came out?

I think there's enough about Jill and Shrek out there to raise reasonable doubt.
Hard to say your kids are starving because of poverty when you and your husband are obese, and you've publicly posted your husband always eats first.

Well, Gypsy only escaped a first degree murder charge because her state has a quirk in its definition of second degree homicide where the usual requirement of a lack of premeditation can be dropped if the victim was essentially a danger to the accused, slightly different to self-defence where there has to be an imminent threat of death to justify murder.

I think the Gypsy Rose phenomenon is a bit of an outlier caused largely by a large amount of sympathetic publicity, including series on major streaming services. What Dee Dee did was very extreme and unusual too, which created extra interest. People are already turning on her and I don’t think the ‘yass queen’ thing will last that long.

If one of the Rods killed Jill there wouldn’t be that level of sensation and publicity around the case. I think a lot of fundies, as we know, see nothing wrong with their abuse and would be vocally outraged. Jill’s abuse is a bit more subtle than what usually makes headlines and grabs attention. It might get sympathy from people like us but I think the case wouldn’t get a whole lot of attention and it’s very possible Jill’s family wouldn’t be willing to testify to her and Dave’s abuse. They constantly move, they don’t let people get too close unless they’re likeminded so they’re unlikely to testify on the Rodlet’s behalf. There’s some mild history with CPS but it’s not extensive and there was no actual interventions.

They’d have to work pretty hard without a CPS/criminal background, without witnesses testifying on the defense’s behalf, without visual indications of abuse beyond skinny kids and some worrying photos and posts they’d have to trawl the internet for over the span of over a decade. It would be an uphill battle to get them the kind of attention or sympathy they would deserve without that. Gypsy had a mountain of evidence of extreme abuse and plenty of testimony on her behalf about that and Dee Dee’s poor character.

I don’t like the intense glorification of Gypsy, but that’s definitely unusual. People do love weird religious families but let’s face it, the truly compelling Rod stuff like funerals for Amy’s legs and her manic weirdness won’t come up in a trial. If you just look at the facts of the abuse it’s sadly all too common and not sensational enough to create much interest beyond the usual interest people have in matricides because they’re rare.
 
As someone with a criminology background I wholeheartedly disagree. Crime is nuanced. The US is insanely hard on certain crimes while being insanely lenient in other areas, and they are a damn mess when it comes to murder trials.

I think intense counselling and perhaps some supervision to help integrate an abused child who killed their parent is far more appropriate than jail time. Obviously cases need to be examined with extreme care and by experts in the field of the psychology of child abuse, but it should be an option. America does love letting the rich and pretty guilty skate free and punishing other people inappropriately though, hence the insane overpopulation in prisons why simultaneously giving slaps on the wrists for dangerous criminal behaviour.

If someone killed Jill I don’t think they’d get much pity. People would think she was just a poor godly woman doing her best, probably. They’re starving because she’s poor! She loves them so much on social media! They always praise her parenting! They never have bruises!
I don't have a fancy "criminology background" but I also don't think you're actually disagreeing with me here. You seem to be saying that murder is wrong but that there are mitigating factors and that those mitigating factors could reasonably result in a murderer receiving intensive treatment and monitoring in lieu of jail time. That's what I said, too.

Anyway, Jilldo please post some new updates, it's so dry out here that we got people fantasizing about evidentiary proceedings at your hypothetical murder trial.
 
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I don't have a fancy "criminology background" but I also don't think you're actually disagreeing with me here. You seem to be saying that murder is wrong but that there are mitigating factors and that those mitigating factors could reasonably result in a murderer receiving intensive treatment and monitoring in lieu of jail time. That's what I said, too.

Anyway, Jilldo please post some new updates, it's so dry out here that we got people fantasizing about evidentiary proceedings at your hypothetical murder trial.

I wasn’t trying to flex, it’s just coincidentally my area of work and study and I meant I’ve seen a lot of cases and sentencings and outcomes and was using that to base my opinion on. I’m not saying I’m somehow better because of working in that field. I must have misunderstood your point, so sorry about that.
 
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I wasn’t trying to flex, it’s just coincidentally my area of work and study and I meant I’ve seen a lot of cases and sentencings and outcomes and was using that to base my opinion on. I’m not saying I’m somehow better because of working in that field. I must have misunderstood your point, so sorry about that.
No, it's interesting to hear your thoughts on this subject.

And while I feel for Gypsy, I just want everyone to leave her alone. The kid's been through hell.
 
No, it's interesting to hear your thoughts on this subject.

And while I feel for Gypsy, I just want everyone to leave her alone. The kid's been through hell.

Thanks, I don’t want anyone to think I’m out here thinking I’m better than anyone else, I like the discourse.

I totally agree. She needs to just be left alone to figure shit out. She got some help in prison but a real adult life on the outside is not in her experience. It’s pretty awful that she’s surrounded by industry people, people scrutinising her every word and action, extreme stans and a perhaps questionable husband. The cringe social media stuff is normal and to be expected but the whole circus needs to go away.
 
Thanks, I don’t want anyone to think I’m out here thinking I’m better than anyone else, I like the discourse.

I totally agree. She needs to just be left alone to figure shit out. She got some help in prison but a real adult life on the outside is not in her experience. It’s pretty awful that she’s surrounded by industry people, people scrutinising her every word and action, extreme stans and a perhaps questionable husband. The cringe social media stuff is normal and to be expected but the whole circus needs to go away.
Not to turn this into a Gypsy thread while we wait for Jillygirl to post more crazy, but I do think she's enjoying the circus. Her behavior in the doc is...troubling.
 
Not to turn this into a Gypsy thread while we wait for Jillygirl to post more crazy, but I do think she's enjoying the circus. Her behavior in the doc is...troubling.
I haven't seen the doc, but I'm willing to cut her a lot of slack.

She needs to be kept the fuck away from Hollywood and the rest of the circling bottom-feeders, maybe live on a farm far, far away from the slimeballs who want to lay a claim to her.
 
Turns out Shrek and Jilldo are in Punta Cana for the Plexus Leader's Retreat. There's video of her showing off their hotel room and the ALL YOU CAN EAT BUFFET!!! Jill's cup runneth over
Jill assures the ladies they can still register for her ladies retreat next month

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