Sony hate thread

[whatever I feel like]

Wii U had more worthwhile exclusives than PS5. The Wii U. Having a handful of interesting timed exclusives is the only thing keeping it a 2.5/10 instead of a literal 1/10.

Wii U had a good second half. First half was bad.

 

[Pissmaster]

Yep, a cursory glance shows significant releases like Visions of Mana, Infinity Nikki, Prince of Persia, Yakuza, Sand Land, System Shock, etc are still releasing. I wouldn't be surprised if the next Sonic even released on PS4 (not just the recent 2D one and the upcoming Generations remaster, I mean the next mainline 3D Sonic).

Gotta admit, as much as I hate Sony, this at least works out well for PS4 owners. It may end up being the best supported console ever that actually still had some exclusives.

Yeah, they didn't even keep putting out major titles on PS2 this long after its replacement was released. PS2 was replaced in 2006, PS4 was in 2020, so PS4's 2024 should be equivalent to PS2's 2010. Look, here's PS2's 2010 release list. It's... pshew, it's a bad one. Only game listed with a score was Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, though that's a backport from Wii and PSP. Other than that, it's almost all just sports games and Singstar expansions. Meanwhile, PS4's got big-name RPGs coming out cross-platform with its successor. I think it's safe to say we'll see more of the same come 2025, too.

Wii U had a good second half. First half was bad.

First half was great. Second half had Super Mario Maker and not much else. 2016 was a dead year for the Wii U.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Wii U had a good second half. First half was bad.

I'd go as far as to say Wii U never really got "good", but still, even its first half was better than this:



Only two of those are currently released, not VR, not timed-exclusives, nor remakes; Destruction AllStars & Quantum Error, and they suck.

Wii U's library of exclusives looks better, even after Switch gutted it. The only argument for PS5 is if you don't have a PS4 or a PC, but they are both cheaper options to play 99% of the same games anyway, along with PC having its own exclusives.

But if someone can't wait a year to play Soyder-Man 2 or Final Faggotry 16 on PC then that's a reason too, I guess...

Yeah, they didn't even keep putting out major titles on PS2 this long after its replacement was released. PS2 was replaced in 2006, PS4 was in 2020, so PS4's 2024 should be equivalent to PS2's 2010. Look, here's PS2's 2010 release list. It's... pshew, it's a bad one. Only game listed with a score was Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, though that's a backport from Wii and PSP. Other than that, it's almost all just sports games and Singstar expansions. Meanwhile, PS4's got big-name RPGs coming out cross-platform with its successor. I think it's safe to say we'll see more of the same come 2025, too.

Yeah, 2025 will certainly still leave PS4 on the table with notable games. There were a couple good stragglers on late PS2 but nothing like we're seeing with PS4. Here's a pretty cool video about the last decent PS2 games, and not just Fifa or whatever.

 

[Two Dollars]

First half was great. Second half had Super Mario Maker and not much else. 2016 was a dead year for the Wii U.

2016 was just Pokken Tournament, a Twilight Princess remaster, the worst Star Fox and its spinoff, an amiibo-centered Mario vs. Donkey Kong, another Mario and Sonic Olympics, a Fire Emblem spinoff that only appealed to the weebiest of weebs (and that was 2015 in Japan), and the second worst Mario RPG of all time. Dead doesn’t even begin to describe it. At least 3DS picked up the slack.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

At least 3DS picked up the slack.

BIG understatement.

3DS has so many gems, some of them digital only, and it's a shame most of them hasn't gotten a re-release on Switch, other consoles, or PC.

 

[DocAwe]

I'd go as far as to say Wii U never really got "good", but still, even its first half was better than this:

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Only two of those are currently released, not VR, not timed-exclusives, nor remakes; Destruction AllStars & Quantum Error, and they suck.

Wii U's library of exclusives looks better, even after Switch gutted it. The only argument for PS5 is if you don't have a PS4 or a PC, but they are both cheaper options to play 99% of the same games anyway, along with PC having its own exclusives.

But if someone can't wait a year to play Soyder-Man 2 or Final Faggotry 16 on PC then that's a reason too, I guess...


Yeah, 2025 will certainly still leave PS4 on the table with notable games. There were a couple good stragglers on late PS2 but nothing like we're seeing with PS4. Here's a pretty cool video about the last decent PS2 games, and not just Fifa or whatever.

I can mostly agree with this.
After the RROD & Yellow Light of Doom debacles I skipped both the Xbone and PS4.
Just kinda stuck with the "retro" stuff like my NEO•GEO.
I really only ever played older FPS games and occasional emulator on my computer.
So when people say there are no games for the PS5 it doesn't immediately register that they are probably talking about exclusives.
There are a ton of games I missed and my pile of "to be played" keeps growing.
Had I not leapfrogged the PS4 my view of the PS5 would probably be way different but for now I'm quite happy with it.
My overall satisfaction with the Series X however...

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

BIG understatement.

3DS has so many gems, some of them digital only, and it's a shame most of them hasn't gotten a re-release on Switch, other consoles, or PC.

3DS always had something I was interested in. It wasn't as great a library as DS for me, but it was pretty close. It sure could be impressive at times too, Resident Evil Revelations felt like it belonged on Vita.

Pokken Tournament

That was a pretty decent game at least, I just hated the shifting perspectives gimmick.

So when people say there are no games for the PS5 it doesn't immediately register that they are probably talking about exclusives.

Yeah, I'm thinking true exclusives are a dying concept aside from Nintendo.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

The only argument for PS5 is if you don't have a PS4 or a PC, but they are both cheaper options to play 99% of the same games anyway, along with PC having its own exclusives.

In his latest video discussing his favorite games from 2023, Nitro Rad literally says that the Steam Deck is a better option than the PS5, lol:

 

[anustart76]

I still refuse to play ultimate alliance 3 because it has nothing to do with the first two games at all. I remember loving ultimate alliance 1 and 2 as a kid, and when the 3rd game finally came out after a decade of waiting, it was MCU shit. I’ve never been so disappointed in my life.

I loved MUA1. If you can snag a copy of the original, there's a whole modding community out there adding new content to the game too, like there are whole DC character mods like Batman and Superman, which is pretty neat.

As far as superhero games go, nothing will beat the classic Spider-Man 2 (the real one from 2004) and the Batman Arkham games, because those were made by people who had passion for actual superheroes and storytelling, and not DIE/ESG. That said, a lot of the old movie tie-ins are fun to go back to, mostly out of nostalgia, but some of them can be a decently fun time. X-Men Origins Wolverine I remember was actually pretty good too, for example. And the Batman Begins game was surprisingly fun for what it was, as was Batman Vengeance (based on the animated series).

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

In his latest video discussing his favorite games from 2023, Nitro Rad literally says that the Steam Deck is a better option than the PS5, lol:
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Cheaper, portable, better library, more versatile... Can't disagree. Doesn't hurt that Valve isn't a fraction as woke as Sony just yet either.

 

[Joey-The-Chud]

The Sega Dreamcast lasted a year and a half and yet will have a bigger impact than the PlayStation 5.

Dreamcast was something we will never see again, a company doing everything it could to survive, releasing as many high quality games as possible in the shortest time frame ever in the hope that the masses would give it a chance, unfortunately they didn't, apparently having a machine that plays DVDs was more important for gamers than having real games to play , really explains the Industry that we have now.

 

[Raiken]

Dreamcast was something we will never see again, a company doing everything it could to survive, releasing as many high quality games as possible in the shortest time frame ever in the hope that the masses would give it a chance, unfortunately they didn't, apparently having a machine that plays DVDs was more important for gamers than having real games to play , really explains the Industry that we have now.

the problem is that sega where massive infighting idiots for years after the genesis, the amerikan branch and japan never agreed on anything and only started to get their shit in line when it was already to late, don't forget that even before sega fell microsoft anounced they would be stepping into the console market too.
that the cds of the dreamcast could be burned with no restrictions also was a massive oversight.

 

[blablabla]

Hope you've got a backlog this year or you're SOL!

https://www.gematsu.com/2024/02/sony-interactive-entertainment-will-not-release-any-new-major-existing-franchise-titles-before-march-31-2025

I don't give a shit about another Sony cinematic Masterpiece Tm.
The only gsmes i want to play are mgsdelta and gta6

 

[TVB]

Yeah, 2025 will certainly still leave PS4 on the table with notable games. There were a couple good stragglers on late PS2 but nothing like we're seeing with PS4. Here's a pretty cool video about the last decent PS2 games, and not just Fifa or whatever.

And keep in mind, one of the last games released exclusively on the PS3 was this

and it was also released on the PS4, and is still available on the PSStore

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Sony missed their 25 million console sales target by nearly 4 million, hitting only 21 million during the holiday period.

Sony COO says that they will continue to push "multi-platform" releases.

If MS launch a service on other consoles/hardware (PC, Phones) that is succesful, you can bet your arse Sony will.

Current day Sony is Xbox 2014 and unless they change course, Sony will speed run 10 years and be Xbox 2024 by the end of the year.

 

[Belvedere]

the problem is that sega where massive infighting idiots for years after the genesis, the amerikan branch and japan never agreed on anything and only started to get their shit in line when it was already to late, don't forget that even before sega fell microsoft anounced they would be stepping into the console market too.
that the cds of the dreamcast could be burned with no restrictions also was a massive oversight.

I will forever blame Sega of America's decision to develop and release the 32X as the main reason why the company fortunes shifted for the worse. That absolute piece of shiitake shaped hardware ruined the reputation of Sega and made customer lose trust in the brand.

I squarely blame the 32X as the reason why the Saturn did so poorly in the West. People saw how bad of a debacle was the 32X that there was this sense of aversion towards investing on another expensive Sega console just a year later, so a lot of people went for the then newcomer yet known name branded "Sony Playstation" instead.

By the time the Dreamcast released the company was in too much of financial downturn to continue as a hardware manufacturer yet at the same time this was one of the most creative and daring periods of Sega as game developers. Truly sad in retrospect.

Spoiler: My unpopular opinion

The Sega CD was also a mistake and a waste of time and resources just like the 32X, it should have never been made. There was barely a handful of games worth owning on it and it sold less that 1/10 of Genesis install base and served as precedent for Sega releasing overpriced hardware that did not meet expectations ( $299 in 1992 for a fucking add-on [$650+ in 2024] ). Sega should have put their entire efforts into sustaining the base Genesis with as many games as possible until the Saturn made it into market.

 

[whatever I feel like]

I will forever blame Sega of America's decision to develop and release the 32X as the main reason why the company fortunes shifted for the worse. That absolute piece of shiitake shaped hardware ruined the reputation of Sega and made customer lose trust in the brand.

I squarely blame the 32X as the reason why the Saturn did so poorly in the West. People saw how bad of a debacle was the 32X that there was this sense of aversion towards investing on another expensive Sega console just a year later, so a lot of people went for the then newcomer yet known name branded "Sony Playstation" instead.

By the time the Dreamcast released the company was in too much of financial downturn to continue as a hardware manufacturer yet at the same time this was one of the most creative and daring periods of Sega as game developers. Truly sad in retrospect.

Spoiler: My unpopular opinion

The Sega CD was also a mistake and a waste of time and resources just like the 32X, it should have never been made. There was barely a handful of games worth owning on it and it sold less that 1/10 of Genesis install base and served as precedent for Sega releasing overpriced hardware that did not meet expectations ( $299 in 1992 for a fucking add-on [$650+ in 2024] ). Sega should have put their entire efforts into sustaining the base Genesis with as many games as possible until the Saturn made it into market.

Tom Kalinske might have been a POS for not bothering to translate Sega's JP-centric Saturn games but he's not exactly wrong that they would have had trouble selling either. The Saturn was doomed to have a difficult life because it was hard to develop for and most western third parties weren't going to want to continue doing so once the Playstation got there. They just vastly misread the market when they went for 2D and anime-stylings instead of 3D and western.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

The Sega CD was also a mistake and a waste of time and resources just like the 32X, it should have never been made. There was barely a handful of games worth owning on it and it sold less that 1/10 of Genesis install base and served as precedent for Sega releasing overpriced hardware that did not meet expectations ( $299 in 1992 for a fucking add-on [$650+ in 2024] ). Sega should have put their entire efforts into sustaining the base Genesis with as many games as possible until the Saturn made it into market.

Is that really an unpopular opinion? Hell, I'd go further and say every piece of hardware Sega ever released was a fuck-up and their only true success with the Genesis was completely accidental. Everything Sega did after that showed that they had no clue what the market wanted or why the Genesis had been successful and it had sold in spite of the company producing it, not because of it.

I will forever blame Sega of America's decision to develop and release the 32X as the main reason why the company fortunes shifted for the worse. That absolute piece of shiitake shaped hardware ruined the reputation of Sega and made customer lose trust in the brand.

They had enough market clout to have survived one bad product. It was the fact that they kept doing it over and over again that doomed them. And SOJ is far from blameless considering their insane policy of "we'll give up the world to Nintendo and Sony if it means winning Japan".

 

[Baraka Obama]

The Sega CD was also a mistake and a waste of time and resources just like the 32X

My cousins had a Saturn. I was young but when I saw it I thought it was the same thing as Sega CD, or rather just a Genesis that could play Sega CD games all in one. After all it has a cartridge port in the back.

I somehow doubt I was the only one who made that mistake, things like this can doom a console because that first year of sales are absolutely critical.

 

[DocAwe]

I remember my initial thought on seeing the Saturn was it was backwards compatible with Genesis games due to the cart port.