Why do we put so much stock into loli/underaged characters as a direct link to being a pedo?

[Luke-Warm Tampon Tea]

I agree she looks younger in that picture. Maybe the body of a 19 yr/old. She doesn’t look like the same person w/o her armor. Japan is so creepy with how they seem to de-age characters as they get undressed.

That character is called "Saber" and the game lore says her body is halted at 15 years old, despite aging chronologically to the age of 25. I don't know anything about this game other than what I found on google,

whatever the fuck that means. Either way, her body is physically 14 or 15, it's a drawing of a young teenager which is exactly what @WelperHelper99 has been telling people to kill themselves over this whole thread.

Ah, so the game is a thinly veiled excuse to look at cartoon depictions of a child being fucked? Can I see the character in question? Or do they just keep de-aging this blonde girl, like a reverse Benjamin Button?

it's the 4th image on google when you search fate/stay night r18 scenes, I posted it earlier with grapefruits covering the nude parts a page or two ago

 

[God of Nothing]

Man, you chose the wrong place to try and have a nuanced discussion. Maybe 5 or 6 years ago, but not now.

what nuance?
this is some of the clearest shit in existence
do you find images of naked children's bodies sexually attractive?
if you do, you're a pedophile, which is sexual attraction towards children

if this was about the legality of "loli" there is something to be argued there
not that i don't find that shit disgusting

 

[potato in mah painus]

To answer your question in a blatant and horrific way, those that have a particular fetish often have it trickle into their tastes in media, artistic style, and in the case of John Podesta (images above), a $72000 art gallery.

There are probably exceptions, but its always a good starting point to figure someone's vices out by looking at the media they consume.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

That character is called "Saber" and the game lore says her body is halted at 15 years old, despite aging chronologically to the age of 25. I don't know anything about this game other than what I found on google,
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whatever the fuck that means. Either way, her body is physically 14 or 15, it's a drawing of a young teenager which is exactly what @WelperHelper99 has been telling people to kill themselves over this whole thread.

Okay, if it’s just saber, I’m not going to get on whelper’s case. She looks of age in every depiction. Same reason I don’t care if a child depiction is actually 9000 years old. When identifying loli, I always look at the body type.

I do agree that this lore is creepy as fuck though.

 

[God of Nothing]

I do agree that this lore is creepy as fuck though.

The Japanese are a very sexless, henceforth porn-addicted, society.

 

[Pizza Time]

what nuance?
this is some of the clearest shit in existence
do you find images of naked children's bodies sexually attractive?
if you do, you're a pedophile, which is sexual attraction towards children

if this was about the legality of "loli" there is something to be argued there
not that i don't find that shit disgusting

I think that's a logical conclusion to make, but there's such a big difference between a living breathing person and a drawing of one. I like anime drawings of women but I'm not a lesbian. A drawing only engages and stimulates one sense: vision. A real women engages all of the senses, and also looks very different from a stylized drawing.

Do I think that some amount of lolicons are pedophiles? Obviously, the same way that some amount but not all furries are zoophiles. I just can't make the blanket statement of "everyone who likes A absolutely also likes B" with any amount of intellectual honesty, but that's not an argument anyone wants to humor when it comes to something so contentious.

 

[God of Nothing]

I think that's a logical conclusion to make, but there's such a big difference between a living breathing person and a drawing of one. I like anime drawings of women but I'm not a lesbian. A drawing only engages and stimulates one sense: vision. A real women engages all of the senses, and also looks very different from a stylized drawing.

Do I think that some amount of lolicons are pedophiles? Obviously, the same way that some amount but not all furries are zoophiles. I just can't make the blanket statement of "everyone who likes A absolutely also likes B" with any amount of intellectual honesty, but that's not an argument anyone wants to humor when it comes to something so contentious.

here's a few more accurate terms for those people to suit your sensibilities then: sexual deviants/sick fucks/porn addicts

 

[Luke-Warm Tampon Tea]

Okay, if it’s just saber, I’m not going to get on whelper’s case. She looks of age in every depiction. Same reason I don’t care if a child depiction is actually 9000 years old. When identifying loli, I always look at the body type.

I do agree that this lore is creepy as fuck though.

That's fair and fine, but I also think I remember Australia trying to, or successfully banning real life porn actresses for not having large enough breasts so are Saber's A/B cups really good enough? Also the reason I'm getting on whelper's case is because earlier in the thread his argument was that under US law, loli is prohibited and depictions of minors legally constitute child porn. Saber is canonically 14 which is what he was screaming at people as a reason they should shoot themselves.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

He's the one who brought up the 2003 protect act that prohibits possession of digital depictions of minors engaging in sexual activity. By the definitions he's given in this thread he's a pedophile. He's also the one who's been screeching "kill yourself" about those self-same definitions that would also condemn him. If you had CP on your computer, lets say you downloaded something on limewire you thought it was a song, it wasn't a song, the fact that you never looked at it doesn't make possessing it less illegal, again, by his definitions.

I'm not sure that's actually law, considering big companies openly sell material meeting that definition. If it is then Sony and Nintendo are in a lot of trouble because distributing such material typically carries a heftier consequence.

But yeah, good point overall.

I agree she looks younger in that picture. Maybe the body of a 19 yr/old. She doesn’t look like the same person w/o her armor. Japan is so creepy with how they seem to de-age characters as they get undressed.

It's because of her demure posture and shy expression, plus being fairly petite beneath her armor, I don't think they actually de-aged her.

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To answer your question in a blatant and horrific way, those that have a particular fetish often have it trickle into their tastes in media, artistic style, and in the case of John Podesta (images above), a $72000 art gallery.

There are probably exceptions, but its always a good starting point to figure someone's vices out by looking at the media they consume.

Maybe I'm just desensitized from seeing anime, but there's something more disturbing about those western images.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

it's the 4th image on google when you search fate/stay night r18 scenes, I posted it earlier with grapefruits covering the nude parts a page or two ago

If that’s the lesbian scene, I’m still not convinced. They look young but over the age of consent. Are there any sex scenes with this character?

Because she looks underage.

 

[Pizza Time]

here's a few more accurate terms for those people to suit your sensibilities then: sexual deviants/sick fucks/porn addicts

Fair enough, I never said it wasn't weird or suspect, just that there's nuance that most people these days won't even bother to recognize. I prefer the other thread because it's a bit older and has some actual nuanced discussion in it, especially in the posts by @Secret Asshole.

 

[God of Nothing]

Fair enough, I never said it wasn't weird or suspect, just that there's nuance that most people these days won't even bother to recognize. I prefer the other thread because it's a bit older and has some actual nuanced discussion in it, especially in the posts by @Secret Asshole.

With the uptake in child grooming and molestation, people are a little more sensitive to sexual deviancy regarding children, yes.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I like anime drawings of women but I'm not a lesbian.

Like them sexually? Then that's pretty much a symptom of lesbianism... I never found a male character attractive and would consider myself a faggot if I did. However, with age there's more ambiguity than with gender, because a cock is a cock.

 

[Luke-Warm Tampon Tea]

If that’s the lesbian scene, I’m still not convinced. They look young but over the age of consent. Are there any sex scenes with this character?
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Because she looks underage.

I'm not really sure since I've never played this game, but it looks like there are some scenes in one of the games, and scenes in the anime(?? unless it's also from a game)
so yeah.
*edit*
yeah there's a few bath scenes from the anime where everything is on display and a scene in the game, I think.

https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Illyasviel_von_Einzbern

She's canonically 18 in the game, so she probably has an H scene.

 

[Pizza Time]

Like them sexually? Then that's pretty much a symptom of lesbianism... I never found a male character attractive and would consider myself a faggot if I did. However, with age there's more ambiguity than with gender, because a cock is a cock.

It's complicated but the short answer is yes. At the risk of power leveling about shit no one cares about, I know definitively that I'm not attracted to real women in person or in videos/photos. It's just drawings, and I can only assume it's due to the stylization. The separation feels normal to me, the way one would differentiate a Simba from the Lion King from a real lion. Yes, Simba is clearly meant to be a depiction of a lion, but there's no way one would confuse him for a real one, that's ridiculous. That's how I feel about drawings and real people.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

It's complicated but the short answer is yes. At the risk of power leveling about shit no one cares about, I know definitively that I'm not attracted to real women in person or in videos/photos. It's just drawings, and I can only assume it's due to the stylization. The separation feels normal to me, the way one would differentiate a Simba from the Lion King from a real lion. Yes, Simba is clearly meant to be a depiction of a lion, but there's no way one would confuse him for a real one, that's ridiculous. That's how I feel about drawings and real people.

 

[Pizza Time]

Looks like I have some phone calls to make.

 

[God of Nothing]

funny meme, 10/10, but i'm with her on this one
sounds more like a fetish than a porn addiction, not that a porn addiction can't cause one

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

Maybe I'm just desensitized from seeing anime, but there's something more disturbing about those western images.

Nah, it's because they are anatomically correct and purposely done in a morbid and obvious way. Anime for most intent and purposes is the opposite to give a non-realistic feeling the western images make my skin crawl because that could actually be happening in Podesta's garage.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

funny meme, 10/10, but i'm with her on this one
sounds more like a fetish than a porn addiction, not that a porn addiction can't cause one

It's a fetish but a gay one specifically. I just can't see how someone wouldn't be a faggot fapping to a fat anime cock. Yeah, there's some removal from the real thing, but you can't be completely straight lusting for cartoon cock.

If there was enough obfuscation, maybe...maybe it wouldn't be gay? Futa fags like to think so, but that wouldn't be enough. Maybe if it was "just" a green tentacle, I don't know. Shit's gay bro

that is actually happening in Podesta's garage.

Ftfy