Why do we put so much stock into loli/underaged characters as a direct link to being a pedo?

[Lion Kang]

And I understand the moral crusader's absolute gut instinct to attack anything even pedo adjacent, but that energy should be used fight people who are actually performing violence, or perpetuating the violence by watching the real stuff.

I think pornography in general is harmful, and I think most lolicons are at risk of being pedophiles or are closet pedos. I still can't have any dialogue with most anti-lolicons though because they, like virtually all online right wingers, are frustrated and impotent keyboard warriors, and will waste no time accusing you of being their enemy.

Listen, you aren't Timoteo from The Sound of Freedom, you aren't leading runaway child slaves through the jungle or busting trafficking rings or stopping grooming gangs. You aren't taking predators off the streets or protecting children. You aren't even stopping lolicons. You're chimping out at the slightest notions that your priorities or morality in regards to this topic could be slightly incorrect, and you (implicitly) call people pedophiles baselessly so people are afraid to ask if you're being unreasonable. it's no different than niggers calling everyone racist.

Even terms like groomer, despite the left literally embracing child grooming openly, got sullied by idiot conservatives frivously using the term against anyone they dislike. If anything, these types of people make it harder to protect children with their nonsense.

Is lolicon immoral? Absolutely! Should it be regulated or outright illegal? That's debatable! Is anyone who even entertains the idea that it should remain legal a pedophile? No, and we all know this, yet we take the opinions of people who say this seriously.

To sum it up, these people don't want to go to prison for looking up local sex offenders or trans kid clinics and carrying out God's justice on actual child predators. So they LARP with the most safe topic imaginable and call you a pedo if you ask if they're being unreasonable. it's pathetic.

 

[SenutiSolidus]

regulating lolicon is unironically a slippery slope. It's not a fallacy when these kinds of things are a conservative's wet dream because its an easy target.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Even terms like groomer, despite the left literally embracing child grooming openly, got sullied by idiot conservatives frivously using the term against anyone they dislike.

Bullshit faggot.

 

[SenutiSolidus]

Bullshit faggot.

It's not bullshit though. The standard conservative nonsense is that all trannies are groomers. They aren't. Plenty of them are but it makes you look retarded to call an entire group groomers, and makes it seem like you just hate trannies. Which is fine, but that goes nowhere in the political climate.

 

[The Ugly One]

It's not bullshit though. The standard conservative nonsense is that all trannies are groomers. They aren't. Plenty of them are but it makes you look retarded to call an entire group groomers, and makes it seem like you just hate trannies. Which is fine, but that goes nowhere in the political climate.

Tarring everyone you don't like with a broad brush without nuance is effective propaganda. The left uses it to great effect all the time. Every conservative just wants to kill gays! Everyone who wants more border security hates brown people! Anyone concerned about males in women's sports is just transphobic! If you think any aspect of the 2020 election was shady, you're an insurrectionist! If you think electric cars won't save the planet, you're a science-denier paid off by Big Oil!

Etc.

Trannies are groomers, and libtards are groomer-enablers.

 

[SenutiSolidus]

Tarring everyone you don't like with a broad brush without nuance is effective propaganda. The left uses it to great effect all the time. Every conservative just wants to kill gays! Everyone who wants more border security hates brown people! Anyone concerned about males in women's sports is just transphobic! If you think any aspect of the 2020 election was shady, you're an insurrectionist! If you think electric cars won't save the planet, you're a science-denier paid off by Big Oil!

Etc.

Trannies are groomers, and libtards are groomer-enablers.

Oh, absolutely the left does this shit all the time. It only works for them because conservatives keep falling for it. Meanwhile the left knows the game and is able to dunk on conservatives turning them into demons who want total tranny death.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

It's not bullshit though. The standard conservative nonsense is that all trannies are groomers. They aren't. Plenty of them are but it makes you look retarded to call an entire group groomers, and makes it seem like you just hate trannies. Which is fine, but that goes nowhere in the political climate.

Shilling for loli wasn't enough, you even have to shill for trannies now? You're a degenerate dipshit. Every tranny who insists on being around children is groomer, just exposing them to their fetish is a form of grooming. Fuck off.

 

[Syntaxion]

Not sure if already posted, but lolicon literally means pedophile. That's the literal meaning and translation of the word...

 

[SenutiSolidus]

Shilling for loli wasn't enough, you even have to shill for trannies now? You're a degenerate dipshit. Every tranny who insists on being around children is groomer, just exposing them to their fetish is a form of grooming. Fuck off.

when did i say otherwise? I said that not every single tranny is a groomer. If they're around children, they're a groomer. If they expose themselves to children they're not just a groomer, they're a pedophile.

 

[Poppavalyim Andropoff]

Fuck off

This isn’t this nonces’ first pedo defence seems to be a theme here ..

https://kiwifarms.st/members/senutisolidus.42955/

Cunts an oxygen thief

 

[SenutiSolidus]

This isn’t this nonces’ first pedo defence seems to be a theme here ..

https://kiwifarms.st/members/senutisolidus.42955/

Cunts an oxygen thief

I know you can't understand the nuance, but labeling anyone you find creepy a pedo does a disservice to the actual victims of pedos.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

when did i say otherwise? I said that not every single tranny is a groomer. If they're around children, they're a groomer. If they expose themselves to children they're not just a groomer, they're a pedophile.

When the overwhelming majority want to at minimum teach kids about their fetish then that group is going to rightly be labeled groomers. Good luck even finding one (1) who isn't in support of that, many even want kids to be trooned out, and a substantial amount want parental rights removed so kids can be kidnapped and groomed by the state.

No bro. Trannies are groomers and don't ever forget it.

 

[The Ugly One]

Oh, absolutely the left does this shit all the time. It only works for them because conservatives keep falling for it. Meanwhile the left knows the game and is able to dunk on conservatives turning them into demons who want total tranny death.

No, you are completely wrong about why these attacks work. Bludgeoning attacks work because your opposition has to engage in long-winded arguments to try and pick them apart while you just move on to the next attack. You can attack faster than they can respond with 2-hour facts & logic videos.

Long-winded, dissertation-length, highly nuanced opposition material does not work. It never works. When we just go for rhetorical gut-punches, we win. And when we win, the left screams and cries that we need to be nuanced and return to losing tactics, because winning makes us look mean.

 

[WelperHelper99]

If that’s the lesbian scene, I’m still not convinced. They look young but over the age of consent. Are there any sex scenes with this character?
View attachment 5729901
Because she looks underage.

No. There are no sex scenes with illia, for whatever that is worth.

 

[The Ugly One]

When the overwhelming majority want to at minimum teach kids about their fetish then that group is going to rightly be labeled groomers. Good luck even finding one (1) who isn't in support of that, many even want kids to be trooned out, and a substantial amount want parental rights removed so kids can be kidnapped and groomed by the state.

No bro. Trannies are groomers and don't ever forget it.

The groomer attack is also good because it throws it back on them. "If you aren't groomers, why aren't you doing anything to expel the groomers from your movement? Look, another tranny got caught being a pedophile, why haven't you done anything about this? Demanding that your enemy hold to an unattainable purity standard is another effective tactic.

Plus, you know, 99% of them actually are groomers or approve of grooming, as you said.

 

[SenutiSolidus]

When the overwhelming majority want to at minimum teach kids about their fetish then that group is going to rightly be labeled groomers. Good luck even finding one (1) who isn't in support of that, many even want kids to be trooned out, and a substantial amount want parental rights removed so kids can be kidnapped and groomed by the state.

No bro. Trannies are groomers and don't ever forget it.

The reason i'm reluctant to co-sign that is just because it goes nowhere. If you want to stop the actual bad actors you can't just say trannies are groomers. People will think you're insane because of the programming. You still have to attack people in the group not the group as a whole.

The groomer attack because it throws it back on them. "If you aren't groomers, why aren't you doing anything to expel the groomers from your movement? Look, another tranny got caught being a pedophile, why haven't you done anything about this? Demanding that your enemy hold to an unattainable purity standard is another effective tactic.

Plus, you know, 99% of them actually are groomers or approve of grooming, as you said.

The reason trannies circle the wagons when one of their own get attacked is the same reason the conservacucks do. Remember when Matt Gaetz was caught with a 17 year old girl he trafficked across state lines? Age of consent aside, the age gap is creepy enough that they should have expelled him. Nobody is willing to do anything about this stuff because the group protects the group and doesn't allow disruption.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

The reason i'm reluctant to co-sign that is just because it goes nowhere. If you want to stop the actual bad actors you can't just say trannies are groomers. People will think you're insane because of the programming. You still have to attack people in the group not the group as a whole.

The proof is in the pudding, the facts should speak for themselves. If the group doesn't want to be seen as groomers then maybe they should stop grooming.

You don't even need to call them groomers anyway, just say you want general anti-grooming laws. This is what some areas did to combat drag queens, and they cried, outing themselves as groomers.

Remember when Matt Gaetz was caught with a 17 year old girl he trafficked across state lines?

I think what I actually remember is that not being true. Regardless, I love how when the right complains about LGBT grooming preschoolers that this meme is their best counter

 

[skykiii]

Adults being interested in cartoons is concerning in itself.

Eeeeehhhhhhh.......... kinda. I mean, adults make the things and its an artform like any other, you can admire the craft much like you can admire a painting or a stage play.

Where I start to understand you though is when adults suddenly decide they want to write hyper-depressing novels that just happen to star My Little Pony characters. At that point its kinda weird.

Reading Red Dragon doesn't necessarily mean you are into skinning women alive and wearing their skin.

That was Silence of the Lambs, not Red Dragon. Red Dragon was about the guy who murdered families because a painting told him to.

Also at this point I'm feeling weird because I had a dream about this post a night or so ago, distinctly remembeing that even in the dream it was followed by a mention of Red Dragon. That's just weird.

Loli/Shota has the double whammy of indicating autism and/or mental illness, and an unhealthy preoccupation with the appearance of prepubescents (or worse).

This much I agree with. It's one thing to think kids are cute, but in recent years there's been a thing of trying to present kids as fuckable, and much like with Furries, that's made the whole thing odd.

Mentiswave recently made a video about something close to this:

As he points out, if you're looking at something like a Fumo doll and thinking its somehow sexual, chances are you're a degenerate.

 

[Poppavalyim Andropoff]

* pedo gibberish *

try again nonce

 

[The Ugly One]

The reason i'm reluctant to co-sign that is just because it goes nowhere. If you want to stop the actual bad actors you can't just say trannies are groomers. People will think you're insane because of the programming. You still have to attack people in the group not the group as a whole.

The reason trannies circle the wagons when one of their own get attacked is the same reason the conservacucks do. Remember when Matt Gaetz was caught with a 17 year old girl he trafficked across state lines? Age of consent aside, the age gap is creepy enough that they should have expelled him. Nobody is willing to do anything about this stuff because the group protects the group and doesn't allow disruption.

Can you point to a single example of nuanced communication defeating emotionally resonant propaganda in a messaging war?