Why do we put so much stock into loli/underaged characters as a direct link to being a pedo?

[The Last Stand]

It's not bullshit though. The standard conservative nonsense is that all trannies are groomers. They aren't. Plenty of them are but it makes you look retarded to call an entire group groomers, and makes it seem like you just hate trannies. Which is fine, but that goes nowhere in the political climate.

Defending adults wanting to mutilate children is just as bad, if not worse, than loli.

 

[SenutiSolidus]

Defending adults wanting to mutilate children is just as bad, if not worse, than loli.

I'm not personally defending them, I'm talking about the greater culture war.

 

[Neurotypical Mantis]

username sounds like it's used somewhere else

 

[SenutiSolidus]

username sounds like it's used somewhere else

i'm not that stupid, i made something entirely unique for KF

 

[UERISIMILITUDO]

Defending adults wanting to mutilate children is just as bad, if not worse, than loli.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

Even terms like groomer, despite the left literally embracing child grooming openly, got sullied by idiot conservatives frivously using the term against anyone they dislike. If anything, these types of people make it harder to protect children with their nonsense.

Incorrect. That was normies who are misusing it like in the Persona 3 incident. The right for the most part is using it correctly. Knowing an apolitical guy myself who keeps misusing grooming again I'll restate it's typical normies being tards and misapplying a term. Look in any gaming youtube video andwatch the people slinging old political terms in ways that make absolutely no sense just to try to be cool or fit in or what have you.

I think pornography in general is harmful, and I think most lolicons are at risk of being pedophiles or are closet pedos. I still can't have any dialogue with most anti-lolicons though because they, like virtually all online right wingers, are frustrated and impotent keyboard warriors, and will waste no time accusing you of being their enemy.

People who take the term lolicon most likely are as it's got a very obvious meaning. I mean a lot of the people who enabled this kind of shit literally helped the slippery slope of grooming, pedophilia and more. It's gotten so bad even if you have an actual attempted groomer-pedophiles full information and release it to the CCC/SCD (cyber crimes/sex crimes) our government (that division) won't even investigate it even with full on proof and even viewable history of the person.

The reason i'm reluctant to co-sign that is just because it goes nowhere. If you want to stop the actual bad actors you can't just say trannies are groomers. People will think you're insane because of the programming. You still have to attack people in the group not the group as a whole.

You have to attack the groups. Not all argument is leftist propoganda, even if it is hypothetically true enough do endorse that kind of behavior that it is synonymous. Just as one would assume the right wing is for gun rights. If you're right wing because of the left wing's dominance (or even if you're neither and I don't mean just centrist) they'll still think you're insane. Know a guy in another state who despises Netflix and people at his work think he's insane because it's such a "great streaming service." Haha.

You only have to attack individuals if it is the minority. If it's 1/3 or higher at that point that group deserves to be reviled for their behaviors and acts.

 

[LargeChoonger]

Spoiler: Long

I hate the "le video game is like jerking off!" argument. It's a complete false equivalency. In a game, you are engaging in skill-based mechanics, a story, and visual spectacle. When you shoot the bad guy in the face, you get a dopamine hit because your skill is being tangibly rewarded and you further the plot along. Finishing a monster in God of War looks badass and it's enjoyable, but nobody gets off to it. Even when you're not playing as the "good guy", like in GTA or Dead by Daylight, or even fucking amogus, you're working toward a skill-based goal and/or following a developing story, and you understand it's firmly in the realm of fiction. You're not jerking off to the corpses, and if you are you have issues. Jerking off to loli is jerking off to loli. There is no other incentive there than to jerk off to what is ostensibly a child

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Does he not see the irony here?

 

[beautiful person]

I don't know why people are bothering arguing for 15 pages when a major feature of pedophiles is that their peepees get hard from, not just looking at pictures of children getting fucked, but also from making normal people uncomfortable by flagrantly waving their pedophilia around in scenarios where they know they can't face punishment. I'd bet the majority of posters making the "but nuance!!" arguments don't even believe what they're saying, but just like fucking with non-pedos because they think it's funny and it makes them hard.

 

[AnAccount]

This whole conversation is basically a two way thing that people need to stop dying on
Yes if you go around trying to defend or justify Loli shit people will call you a pedo.

Everyone should be able to agree to 'it's not a good thing to jerk to this' just in general

And if you want to jerk to it and you're certain you'll never ever harm a child then just go and do that! don't shit up the internet by trying to make it accepted because it shouldn't be accepted as a normal or okay thing. And if you'll never harm a child then be the proof to yourself and just never do that and jerk to whatever you want and don't make it other peoples business.

 

[Mutthole]

I also believe that there absolutely can be a pipeline from loli to being a real life pedophile. I'm not that naive. I just think the zero nuance situation contradicts how we treat any other media.

Fuck you, tard.

 

[SenutiSolidus]

I don't know why people are bothering arguing for 15 pages when a major feature of pedophiles is that their peepees get hard from, not just looking at pictures of children getting fucked, but also from making normal people uncomfortable by flagrantly waving their pedophilia around in scenarios where they know they can't face punishment. I'd bet the majority of posters making the "but nuance!!" arguments don't even believe what they're saying, but just like fucking with non-pedos because they think it's funny and it makes them hard.

I mention nuance because from what I've seen of what loli is since making the thread it is literally nothing like what I havent seen (but can imagine from stories I had to listen to in college) in real life.

 

[Catler]

but also from making normal people uncomfortable by flagrantly waving their pedophilia around in scenarios where they know they can't face punishment

I seriously doubt most pedos, save for some very loud, anonymous, and stupid ones online, are waving it in people's faces. There are very few situations where that wouldn't be risky to them, even on the internet.

Like most things about pedos though it's almost impossible to get meaningful statistics, about that sort of thing unfortunately.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I seriously doubt most pedos, save for some very loud, anonymous, and stupid ones online, are waving it in people's faces. There are very few situations where that wouldn't be risky to them, even on the internet.

Like most things about pedos though it's almost impossible to get meaningful statistics, about that sort of thing unfortunately.

I would disagree. Go to any board on /a/ on 4chan at this point. With the cloak of anonymity (even though 4chan tracks your IP), you'll often find lolicons expressing their lust for real children.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

I would disagree. Go to any board on /a/ on 4chan at this point. With the cloak of anonymity (even though 4chan tracks your IP), you'll often find lolicons expressing their lust for real children.

That may be true, though haven't witnessed how bad it is on 4/8 chan so I'll take your word for it, but most pedophiles are scared shitless of getting doxed. One guy I helped with exposing got so scared he deleted all of his online accounts apparently after me and some friends were able to get his address/etc. Often when we would call out the evidence we had of his activities he would try to ignore it instead of waving it in front of our faces or do a simple projection game or try to pretend it wasn't his account.

The thing is even if they're under a cloak of anonymity doesn't that prove they are afraid to expose their dirty laundry directly in normies/everyone's faces generally. There may be an exception or two but it's not common from what I've seen and only had one weirdo join a server I hosted one time admit he was in trouble for soliciting nudes from minors, and although I banned him immediately I can't tell if the guy was serious or joking. Could have been a troll.

 

[Catler]

I would disagree. Go to any board on /a/ on 4chan at this point. With the cloak of anonymity (even though 4chan tracks your IP), you'll often find lolicons expressing their lust for real children.

I would argue it would be hard to a pedo to flaunt it in a place like /a/ and that there aren't many normal, well adjusted people there to begin with. Anime communities have an unusually high tolerance for loli stuff and the people who like it.

Perhaps they're a bit more honest though that it doesn't end at drawn images.

 

[Retard of the Month]

Murder and rape are actions. Pedophilia is an attraction.
Enjoying violent content won't make you kill, but it'll make you enjoy more violent content.
Enjoying sexual content won't get you laid, but it'll make you enjoy more sexual content.
Enjoying pedophilic content...

 

[WelperHelper99]

That may be true, though haven't witnessed how bad it is on 4/8 chan so I'll take your word for it, but most pedophiles are scared shitless of getting doxed. One guy I helped with exposing got so scared he deleted all of his online accounts apparently after me and some friends were able to get his address/etc. Often when we would call out the evidence we had of his activities he would try to ignore it instead of waving it in front of our faces or do a simple projection game or try to pretend it wasn't his account.

The thing is even if they're under a cloak of anonymity doesn't that prove they are afraid to expose their dirty laundry directly in normies/everyone's faces generally. There may be an exception or two but it's not common from what I've seen and only had one weirdo join a server I hosted one time admit he was in trouble for soliciting nudes from minors, and although I banned him immediately I can't tell if the guy was serious or joking. Could have been a troll.

Trust me when I say 4chan has gotten bad. They cannot keep it to themselves, which if you're just trying to talk about the latest anime episode, derails the entire thread since everyone else is putting them on blast and trying to get attention of mods. Could it be trolls? Sure. A few times. But every time? Fuck no. Pedophiles are coom brained retards that WONT shut up when they think they can't be caught

 

[DEAD BIRD]

Kinda funny how the words "racist" , "xenophobe", "sexist" and even "pedophile" are losing meaning thanks to many traumatized idiots who think it is a MUST to protect anime drawings. lol. Calling someone a pedophile for no reason and with no solid evidence should be a crime for defamation. Too many hypocrite purists.

If you jerk off to the depiction of children, you should frankly, be taken out back and shot. You are legitimately autistic if you assume people going "wow, you jerk off to... animated porn of this character? and shes... supposed to be 5? that makes you look like a pedophile." is defamation you banana eating ooga booga jiggaboo

Disagree. Stopping them from acting (permanently, with castration, if there's no way to stop them), absolutely. Killing is a bridge too far.

You're a major retard if you think killing someone who is a danger enough to society, to literally mentally destroy a child (and god forbid, multiple children) for their life, is "a bridge too far." lol.

If you try to justify this garbage, if you are aroused by this garbage. Hang yourself. There is no joke, no bit, just hang yourself.
Weird amount of faggots trying to defend this. There is no "context" or "nuance" which makes any of this faggotry even slightly arguably understandable.

 

[SenutiSolidus]

If you jerk off to the depiction of children, you should frankly, be taken out back and shot. You are legitimately autistic if you assume people going "wow, you jerk off to... animated porn of this character? and shes... supposed to be 5? that makes you look like a pedophile." is defamation you banana eating ooga booga jiggaboo


You're a major retard if you think killing someone who is a danger enough to society, to literally mentally destroy a child (and god forbid, multiple children) for their life, is "a bridge too far." lol.

If you try to justify this garbage, if you are aroused by this garbage. Hang yourself. There is no joke, no bit, just hang yourself.
Weird amount of faggots trying to defend this. There is no "context" or "nuance" which makes any of this faggotry even slightly arguably understandable.

cool speech but try using that anger against the actual problem instead of scary drawings.

I'm being serious though, I think the amount of hate towards loli could be far better spent after actual pedophiles. As in the ones who look at child porn or god forbid record it themselves.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I would argue it would be hard to a pedo to flaunt it in a place like /a/ and that there aren't many normal, well adjusted people there to begin with. Anime communities have an unusually high tolerance for loli stuff and the people who like it.

Perhaps they're a bit more honest though that it doesn't end at drawn images.

Dude I know this is hard to conceive, but I don't want to look at toddlers and hear about them getting raped when talking about the latest episode of a new anime that's perfectly fine. Most people don't. They do it anyway and it shuts down all conversation on the thread, because then they spam loli. I've seen it. It's horrible.