Do Men Even Like Women?

I looked for like half a second on both the man and woman hate threads and immediate depression just hit so I noped out of both. To tell you the truth of any guy or gal is taking anything seriously on any of those places you may need a week away from KF.
Both of them doing the exact same shit: cherry-picking tweets and stories about the most loathesome, extreme examples of men and women and acting like that represents half the fucking population. For a while it was tolerable, but it's infecting unrelated threads and making the site insufferable to read at times.
 
The only woman I like is Jean.
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“Men often react to women’s words—speaking and writing—as if they were acts of violence; sometimes men react to women’s words with violence. So we lower our voices. Women whisper. Women apologize. Women shut up. Women trivialize what we know. Women shrink. Women pull back. Most women have experienced enough dominance from men—control, violence, insult, contempt—that no threat seems empty.”
Men of the Farms: is that true?
Well i'm not saying that abusive men don't exist but this seems like a pretty gross overgeneralization.
So i would say that no, its ragebait and it actually has the same beats of the incel women hating propaganda too, so at the end of the day both sides are more like each other than they would like to admit
 
I think that both feminism and the reactionary manosphere-red-pill stuff is retarded and ultimately does more harm than good for gender relations as issues should be resolved as a compromise instead of a conflict like it seems these movements push towards.
It also seems to me that the individuals at the core of these movements are different to the people who they draw in. I think they are spiteful and nasty offering an explanation and solutions for the issues of people who are just lost lambs, too naive to see the malice and spite in their heroes.
idk tho.
 
Andrea Dworkin was one of the most bitter hags to ever waddle the earth. She was desperate to rope other women into her miserable existence yet in spite of her protests to the contrary she speaks for nobody except herself. That being said women are fine in general. The man hate thread, and the reaction to it, is funny.
you havent read anything written by her. not even the excerpts I used for the prompt in the OP.
Don't dislike, or like them, a lot of the time its like talking to children, I'd just rather not
OK so you think women are lesser and tiresome.
But for real though Women are like anyone else. You will be called out if you're wrong. You will be mocked on attributes you had no control over. You will be made to feel shame for your actions. This is no different than men. The difference is in your reaction to it.
This doesn't really answer my question, which is 'do men even like women?'
 
Andrea Dworkin was one of the most bitter hags to ever waddle the earth. She was desperate to rope other women into her miserable existence yet in spite of her protests to the contrary she speaks for nobody except herself. That being said women are fine in general. The man hate thread, and the reaction to it, is funny.
Dworkin was a porn addict that talked out of both sides of her fat, hateful mouth. Third wave feminist and I are not fond of each other. This flavor of feminism is extremely emotional and lacks rational peer criticism. Dworkin often contradicts herself, often in the same essay. I can agree that there are unforgivable practices and attitudes of the porn industry. Dworkin would know, she did a lot of """""research"""". In one breath she denounces porn but with the next breath she fangirl's about her favorite porn. Her peers called this hypocrisy radical and brave. Did I forget she was a super jew.

I don't blame men for hating feminism in its current form. Even bell hooks is maddening to read. They say one thing but contradict it on the next page.
 
Anyone taking anything on the Internet seriously is a goofball. Least of all anything on the Farms.
But, sure. I like women.
I like anyone who isn't an annoying, histrionic faggot or shrieking, dangerous nog. Male or female.
Edit: Because I do find it really funny that this is such a feminine post, the equivalent of "Are you mad at me?"
 
Men don't need to 'like' women outside of their mother and their wife and daughters. For what purpose would they need to "like" women as a general concept?
I'm not asking if you need to like women outside of your biological imperative. I just want to know if you do, or don't.
Well i'm not saying that abusive men don't exist but this seems like a pretty gross overgeneralization.
So i would say that no, its ragebait and it actually has the same beats of the incel women hating propaganda too, so at the end of the day both sides are more like each other than they would like to admit
Physically abusive men represent the extreme end of a spectrum of abuse. I think all men to some extent unintentionally and perhaps unknowingly make it difficult for women to be seen and heard, tend to discount what they say, and kind of crowd women to the borders of the conference room. There's a lot of controlling boyfriends out there, a lot of bosses who think their female employees' appearance is a core competency of her performance in a job that isn't modeling or acting or whatever. There are precincts where the police put their sexual assault cases on the backburner forever.

Anyway, I'm not asking about the contents of the Man-Hate thread, I'm asking you if you like women or not, and optionally, why.

Hey you like feminist writers too? I do, I think they're very funny. I've posted a couple quotes from them in the woman-hate thread.
I doubt we read the same things tbh, but yes I'm pretty familiar with Dworkin, at least.

Dworkin was a porn addict that talked out of both sides of her fat, hateful mouth. Third wave feminist and I are not fond of each other. This flavor of feminism is extremely emotional and lacks rational peer criticism. Dworkin often contradicts herself, often in the same essay. I can agree that there are unforgivable practices and attitudes of the porn industry. Dworkin would know, she did a lot of """""research"""". In one breath she denounces porn but with the next breath she fangirl's about her favorite porn. Her peers called this hypocrisy radical and brave. Did I forget she was a super jew.
She wasn't always obese. In her late twenties, her Dutch husband pimped her out in Amsterdam, beating her up if she didn't comply. Andrea's mistake is a lack of funds for travelling; she got stranded in Greece and then again in Amsterdam trying to get back to Amerika.
I don't blame men for hating feminism in its current form.
You aren't answering my question: do you like women or not, and if so, why?
 
I don't post in either thread, I think it's retarded, so there is that.

But honestly, it only makes sense that people from either group would get offended at blind hate for their gender.

Whatever collection of points have been made on either side probably have some form of validity in some cases, but mostly does not apply to the majority.

Men obviously like women, and those who screech at them mostly do out of resentment for feeling rejected, hurt or inadequate. I think the same goes the other way.

“Men often react to women’s words—speaking and writing—as if they were acts of violence; sometimes men react to women’s words with violence. So we lower our voices. Women whisper. Women apologize. Women shut up. Women trivialize what we know. Women shrink. Women pull back. Most women have experienced enough dominance from men—control, violence, insult, contempt—that no threat seems empty.”

I do think that women tend to behave differently to aggression. To begin with, my own experience is that women tend to take things much more personally than men do and it weights in the way they react to the perceived violence.

Other than that, I don't see any objective gratuitous violence, verbal or otherwise aimed at women in my daily life. KF does not count, and I am sure you can see why.

I don't even think that the whisper, apology or shrinking is a desired feature in women for most men. On the contrary. If you are smart, there is nothing stopping you from standing your ground without having to resort to making it about gender.
 
OK so you think women are lesser and tiresome.
Not lesser, but more shallow (again not all), I guess its better explained that when talking about something simple like movies, they can hold a proper conversation, try to have a more meaningful conversation about something like beliefs and a lot of it is just regurgitated shit from culture or some shitty subculture. Also they're way more into bullshit than men. Vegan? fuck off. Ghosts? fuck off. Witches? fuck off. Reiki? fuck off. Psychics? fuck off. Theres far too much bullshit, theres no need to add more. I won't take the piss out of women for believing that shit though, but men fucking get it. fucking fairies.
 
I work in an industry that is primarily male, or at least the corners I've chosen to work in. My gender does play a factor on how I get along with my male coworkers but it is not the only factor. There are times being the Smurfette is a big advantage but if I let that go to my head, men will attack me in a way that they think it will hurt. To avoid this, I treat men like normal people and don't try to manipulate them. Most men adore me like a sister. Some just treat me human. Others don't like that I am a woman. We are coworkers in a competitive field, you have to learn to like the taste of a shit sandwich and appreciate any goodwill handed to you.

Other than that, I don't see any objective gratuitous violence, verbal or otherwise aimed at women in my daily life. KF does not count, and I am sure you can see why.
Fucking well said.
 
Not lesser, but more shallow (again not all), I guess its better explained that when talking about something simple like movies, they can hold a proper conversation, try to have a more meaningful conversation about something like beliefs and a lot of it is just regurgitated shit from culture or some shitty subculture. Also they're way more into bullshit than men. Vegan? fuck off. Ghosts? fuck off. Witches? fuck off. Reiki? fuck off. Psychics? fuck off. Theres far too much bullshit, theres no need to add more. I won't take the piss out of women for believing that shit though, but men fucking get it. fucking fairies.
I have no idea what your hobbies are but men who I otherwise like will go on and on about DMT elves, sports, video games journalism integrity, and diet micromanagement. Sometimes after dismissing whatever it was I was talking about as being trifling.
 
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