Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[Inside your walls]

Tomboy for moids means
>short hair (but not shorter than ear length)
>athletic and sporty (but nothing too serious or "masculine")
>toned but not too muscular (but if you are muscular, you can become a different fetish)
>low maintenance, fun and chill (cool girl that he can drink a beer with and doesn't get offended at misogynistic jokes)
>good at video games (you can't be better than him)
>not too concerned with her appearance (basketball shorts and sweatpants are fine but if you don't doll up for formal events or god forbid wear a suit, he might kill you)
>but be conventionally feminine in other areas of your life to compensate for above

Not even all that, tomboy fetish is literally just a fetish for a woman who is so extremely beautiful she looks good even with short hair (extremely feminine features, great jawline, slender neck etc), who has a perfect fit body and who will require absolutely zero effort or social intelligence from the man. It's a total delusional fetish and it's mostly fat neckbeards who are afraid of a woman expecting anything at all from them. It's got nothing to do with actual gender nonconforming women.

Wrong again, femoid children... Men have a diverse taste in women... You're all just jealous
that they are getting more attention than you

OC cahntent

Aren't tomboys the pichu to a butch lesbians Pikachu?They're setting themselves up for disappointment if that's the case lol

God, I hate the tomboy trend. Every tomboy is so plainly female you could see her boobs from miles away. As much as I hate gender ideology, I'm fucking grateful troons killed tomboys cuz I'm sick of that shit. Maybe once it's keels over, the sane steadfast gncs can vibe again, giving lesbians what they deserve (and me wanting to be lol, I wanna get jacked, no homo)

I hate the tomboy trend because of two reasons, first is that it was hyper pushed into regular normie spheres by Reddit coomers, secondly all the moids now gushing about tomboys are the same ones that called tomboys or any girl that was gender non-conforming dykes, ugly, weird and other names. They are the male equivalent of that meme where women make fun of nerds and their geeky hobbies 10 years ago, only to do a complete 180 and go "I was always a geek that loved nerdy hobbies and Star Wars" when geek culture became more public and accessible thanks to Big Bang Theory (bazinga) being a TV hit and the Internet.

But the worst part is the fact, they have the audacity to feel entitled to tomboys and "weird girls" 's attention, time and expect them to turn the page after being ridiculed by them for years so they can try get laid because their reddit porn addict council has told them it's now based trying to slide into these women's pants.

As someone that was quite tomboyish during my childhood, the amount of comments about how I am secretly fucking my male friends but also that I am a dyke at the same time from 13-year old moids who were already getting their brains fried watching compressed porn on their shitty little flip phones was insane. Moids will cry how women and modern media sexualizes/gayifies male platonic bonds and can't never let them "just be friends, but then without any self-awareness will project this idea that young girls/women who have purely platonic and healthy friendships with boys/men MUST be fucking them behind closed walls.

 

[grenouille crétine]

Also moids when they see an actual tomboy, masculine or non-feminine/gender conforming woman that isn't a tan anime girl with big tits, child bearing hips and a baby face: REEE UGLY DYKE! YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST TRANSITION BECAUSE YOU LOOK SO FUCKED UP!!

It blows my mind that someone supposedly attracted to women could look at someone like eg Kathleen Stock and think, “mannish”. Maybe she’s not your type but she’s undoubtedly female, and even if she weren’t so smart she’s still imo. It’s both funny and sad that a woman without makeup or long hair becomes less and less of a woman to most males, bc she’s less and less of a familiar sex object. They don’t understand finding the woman herself attractive, only her femaleness ie pussy and the active markers of femininity such as hair and makeup.

I am only a layperson, but I find the concept of humanity collectively being short-circuited by modern “conveniences” a compelling one in understanding a lot of things, in particular coomerism. “Supranormal sex stimulus” is the term for it, initially derived from an experiment that got male butterflies to ignore real females entirely in favor of sculptures exaggerating certain physiological aspects. From Pornography addiction – a supranormal stimulus considered in the context of neuroplasticity:

Our brains naturally seek novelty, and sexuality can condition a powerful reward with novelty.

Pornography is a perfect laboratory for this kind of novel learning fused with a powerful pleasure incentive drive. The focused searching and clicking, looking for the perfect masturbatory subject, is an exercise in neuroplastic learning. Indeed, it is illustrative of Tinbergen's concept of the ‘supranormal stimulus’ (Tinbergen, 1951), with plastic surgery–enhanced breasts presented in limitless novelty in humans serving the same purpose as Tinbergen's and Magnus's artificially enhanced female butterfly models; the males of each species prefer the artificial to the naturally evolved (Magnus, 1958; Tinbergen, 1951).

I said that 1. they wouldn't be men with tits, they'd be women who just aren't feminine and 2. women without feminine attributes exist in real life so why can't they be action heroes?

Easy doomer answer ofc is as stated above, woman == sex object == long hair, T&A, makeup, tight clothes, if none of those are present then ??? They cannot compute.

because men are stronger and could kill a woman with a punch

I have had some version of this conversation IRL with a former moid “friend”, and as soon as he got the sense maybe he didn’t have the strongest argument there was an abrupt, observable psychological upset and he too brought up how good at and prone they are to violence. Just in case we forgot.

eta to quote @Inside your walls, are you me? Lol but truly, god only knows how many girls and women have gone through the same. Never do the moids think to reflect on their own habits or consider they are wrong—just projection and hatred, always.

As someone that was quite tomboyish during my childhood, the amount of comments about how I am secretly fucking my male friends and how I am a dyke at the same time from 13-year old moids who were already getting their brains fried watching compressed porn on their shitty little flip phones was insane.

 

[pork and beans]

Wrong again, femoid children... Men have a diverse taste in women... You're all just jealous
that they are getting more attention than you

LMAO yeah

I think so many men want women they are not ready for; They say they want women with eccentric tastes (weird girls, like you said) in topics like movies, style and fashion, music, literature or hobbies but then they'll shit on her for having weird interests or being too geeky (smart) when they have to get involved in a deeper than surface level interaction

the ones that want tomboys will start malding when she is actually gnc and the ones that want stereotypically feminine women will complain about the clothes or the makeup.

and they say they want women with "no body count" but they'll get mad if you refuse to send nudes and keep staying celibate during the relationship (why would they think they'd be the exception...) and whats ironic is that they themselves will admit to watching porn all the time...

i feel like theres a lot of guys that are insecure and dont have very strong personalities or ideals, so they get really controlling and defensive and jealous really quickly.
and this is purely anecdotal, but so many of them end up skinwalking the girls' obscure interests after the break up...

 

[Lidl Drip]

The good thing about men who openly talk about their tomboy or mommy dommy or whatever else fetishes is that they immediately expose themselves as porn addicts and you just don't date them.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

I think so many men want women they are not ready for; They say they want women with eccentric tastes (weird girls, like you said) in topics like movies, style and fashion, music, literature or hobbies but then they'll shit on her for having weird interests or being too geeky (smart) when they have to get involved in a deeper than surface level interaction

What's crazy is so many men who say this kinda stuff have zero real hobbies (vidya doesn't count) and spend their free time just beaming slop into their retinas. It's astounding how many guys are perfectly content going through life sans any sort of interests or aspirations beyond watching YouTube video essays and jacking off to Overwatch hentai. Like the moment you ask them about their thoughts on any topic, or what they've been reading lately, or really anything beyond the horrifically narrow scope of their own life experiences, they freeze up and stammer out a total non-answer, then try to divert the conversation back into familiar territory. You'd be better off speaking to a brick wall than 75% of zoomer males.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Is there anything more evil and destructive than a teenage boy? They are unpredictable and have zero impulse control for their violence and especially in groups they will just torment everyone around them to show off and impress one another.

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I genuinely think they should be institutionalized from 13-20 at least and taught discipline, how to clean up after themselves, how to show respect to people around them and be physically exerted to quench their boredom and violence. Something like military service but where they aren't given weapons and instead learn to contribute positively to society.

 

[Hassou Tobi]

Many moids also get mad about women having any

body fat, because they're attracted to children and anachans they can easily overpower and control.

I’ve long felt this…think this is part of why some men like troons. The skinny twink troon can be thinner/lower bf and have narrower hips than a woman.

They say it's TERFs killing them instead of the violent (mostly black) men who actually kill tranny hookers because the reality doesn't make for as great a wank fantasy to them.

lol I’ve always heard this (basically the troons don’t disclose and get killed by black johns.) yet mothers who say they don’t want 13 year old autistic girls to be mutilated get told they’re responsible for “trans genocide”.

In general women get blamed for troons as if women are responsible for autogynophiles getting boners in spinny skirts and wanting to jack off in women’s restrooms. Explain that one to me.

apologises for the kiwi scuffle, but has anyone noticed an increase in creepy incels lately?

Idk if there’s been an increase (though I believe it). I learned to stick to the purple boards pretty quickly and even then they seep into discussion more than I’d like.

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I’m struggling with this.
He DFE but there was a post by a Catholic guy worrying that his future virgin wife won’t be “a freak in bed” and how much he “desires blow jobs.”



So this is what happens when moids get the virgin bride of their dreams: they complain she isn’t experienced enough and will be boring in bed. I know we all know this, but it’s rare to see it spelled out so explicitly.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Fellas, is it gay to say good morning to another man? It's basically like swallowing his cum of you think about it.




Wonder why men are experiencing loneliness...

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

We’re not allowed to post screenshots from Kiwifarms in this thread anymore, but I get your frustration. I believe a lot of them are young, with an axe to grind. They’ve been complaining about this thread existing since it first started, and have created at least four threads of their own to cope with it.

I think there has been anti women content and posting pushed by the algorithm and cranked up to 11 in the last year or so. My youtube is mostly drama docs, politics and crafts and yet i get anti woman propaganda. I genuinely think part of the algorithm is made to target single men so they start gender war since the race baiting is falling so now they fall back to gender wars , plus part of it is chinese hoping some of these women will go for the surplus males. Anyone else who has interests in politics on another language getting similar or different results? Also how common are woman are evil content on your language?

Lol. There are some incels that will call Margot Robbie “mid.” I guess if you’re only able to get off to AI coombait, then I guess everyone looks “mid” or worse compared to that

ITS NOT EVEN LOOKING LIKE IRL WOMAN ITS FUCKING ANIME CARTOON THEY WACK. The women they masturbate on are literally fiction.

 

[Lidl Drip]

I think there has been anti women content and posting pushed by the algorithm and cranked up to 11 in the last year or so. My youtube is mostly drama docs, politics and crafts and yet i get anti woman propaganda. I genuinely think part of the algorithm is made to target single men so they start gender war since the race baiting is falling so now they fall back to gender wars , plus part of it is chinese hoping some of these women will go for the surplus males. Anyone else who has interests in politics on another language getting similar or different results? Also how common are woman are evil content on your language?

I watch a lot of true crime and Jim Can't Swim type police interrogation stuff and because of that I sometimes get suggested "DRUNK LADY GETS ARRESTED AND EPICALLY OWNED BY COPS!" videos where it's like a young woman in very revealing clothes in the thumbnail. There are a lot of "KAREN GETS WHAT SHE DESERVES" videos also with often violent thumbnails that show men assaulting women with bats and fists, I haven't been recommended those but we talked about it in this thread. I never click these videos and I don't know why it would ever recommend this shit to me other than because of the true crime cause the only other youtube videos I watch are Chantal/Amberlynn and then baking and recipe videos and gardening/lifestyle vlogger videos.

These videos of women getting "owned" and arrested and beaten by men all have millions of views. Men definitely enjoy this content and youtube promotes it.

 

[Otterly]

Rosalind Franklin

Franklins contribution wasn’t that pivotal, and it was her students who did most of it. it was a piece of the puzzle but not the breakthrough it’s often touted as. If she’d lived she might not have been included in the Nobel. Also, although she should have been credited, they don’t award Nobels posthumously.
Marie-Anne Pierrette Paulze Lavoisier, the wife of Antoine Lavoisier, probably did an awful lot of his work and isnt really credited for it. One of the early microscopists whose name I can never remember also had his wife do all the drawings and then got the credit for them. There seem to have been quite a few women of that age who worked alongside their husbands and haven’t been credited at all.
Edited to add: Herschel’s wife was a scientist in her own right as well.

 

[pork and beans]

What's crazy is so many men who say this kinda stuff have zero real hobbies (vidya doesn't count) and spend their free time just beaming slop into their retinas. It's astounding how many guys are perfectly content going through life sans any sort of interests or aspirations beyond watching YouTube video essays and jacking off to Overwatch hentai. Like the moment you ask them about their thoughts on any topic, or what they've been reading lately, or really anything beyond the horrifically narrow scope of their own life experiences, they freeze up and stammer out a total non-answer, then try to divert the conversation back into familiar territory. You'd be better off speaking to a brick wall than 75% of zoomer males.

this exactly. Maybe some go to the gym (now more than ever because its trendy) which is cool... but still don't read or have an artistic outlet or have any movie and music tastes other than what they see recommended on video essays. So many guys are so boring. I don't know if they just keep their interests secret or if they really are that shallow, but its so disappointing either way. I know theres a lot of women like this also, but... eh, at least they arent watching porn 24/7.

And then they think they're special for having watched Nightcrawler or having listened to one Nirvana album. Dude you wouldnt know niche if it hit you in the face

 

[Glossy Paper]

I think there has been anti women content and posting pushed by the algorithm and cranked up to 11 in the last year or so. My youtube is mostly drama docs, politics and crafts and yet i get anti woman propaganda. I genuinely think part of the algorithm is made to target single men so they start gender war since the race baiting is falling so now they fall back to gender wars , plus part of it is chinese hoping some of these women will go for the surplus males.

Yes, have anyone noticed the ramping up of "women [coffee emoji]" and "women moment" comments in videos of completely unrelated content? It could be an innocent video of a woman playing with a cat, getting cat-slapped (like 100% of cat owners do at some point), and there would be comments laughing at her woman-ness. Back in ye olde days such people spent time making up reasons to be sexist, but now it's progressed to pointing at random women and throwing b- and c- slurs at them.

 

[Hassou Tobi]

I feel so conflicted between learning about men and having empathy for their issues and wanting men and women to live in harmony with each other (which is literally what God intended) versus not being able all to ignore the horrible man child misogyny I see on internet. And seeing how little empathy most men have for women. So why should I be generous in return?

I remember trying my best to have a good faith argument with left wing moids when the Russel brand allegations came out. I think so much of these Me Too cases was not outright monsters (though there were certainly some of those) but the fact that men and women are different and have different understanding of social cues/situations and therefore different perceptions of events. For instance a woman may not understand that a man sees a woman going to his hotel room as tacitly consenting to sexual activity. It’s a legitimate conversation over whether that’s acceptable or not, but the point is that the man is not necessarily a monster for pursuing sex in that situation. IMO at least. And yes, I’ll even go as far as to say that I do think women have a responsibility to communicate that they don’t want to have sex. But men also need to understand the physical vulnerability that makes it hard to do that sometimes.

So imo we would all be better served by having a sexual culture with reasonable norms and boundaries rather than the freeforall we’ve had since the sexual revolution/pill. Part of that would be men like Russel brand not pursuing naive 16 year old girls because it’s just not gentlemanly even if he technically didn’t do anything illegal.

How do moids respond to these reasonable, generous points?

“NO THE 16 YEAR OLD WAS THE POWERFUL ONE BECAUSE SHE COULD IMPREGNATE HERSELF WITH AN OLD CONDOM AND DEMAND CHILD SUPPORT. OR CRY RAPE LIKE SHE IS NOW!!”

It’s just like *tosses hands*

I understand my sensibilities are rather trad. I don’t think it’s out of ignorance necessarily because ~ten years ago I was a rad fem to the point that I thought having piv sex with oppressive.

I just wish men would..do better. And try to meet me half way, as I try to do them.

I try to remember that most men irl don’t think it’s acceptable to make jokes about women having sex with dogs or that the age of consent should be 14…. (Or do they…?)

 

[Inside your walls]

Moids will from these very hyper-Christian/conservative households will legitimately call their daughters "failed attempts" and other vile names because they weren't born male "jokingly" and then have the audacity to be shocked when those daughters eventually do a complete 180 in terms of looks and lifestyle, the moment they are able to move out of their house and refuse to have children of their own.


This dude strikes me as someone that would become incredibly angry if
his son turned out to be a feminine/flamboyant gay person with zero
interest in masculine activities.

 

[Slideshow Bill]

Moids will from these very hyper-Christian/conservative households will legitimately call
their daughters "failed attempts" and other vile names because they weren't born male "jokingly"
and then have the audacity to be shocked when those daughters eventually do a complete 180 in terms of looks and lifestyle, the moment they are able to move out of their house and refuse to have children of their own.

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This dude strikes me as someone that would become incredibly angry if
his son turned out to be a feminine/flamboyant gay person with zero
interest in masculine activities.

With these "royal" style family situations, the girls know that they wouldn't have been born if the oldest was male. If they become radfems, he and other conservative men are going to blame college for "ruining his precious little girls" and not the fact that the first emotion he felt for them was disappointment.

 

[FarmVille]

I don’t generally think of myself as a racist. I hate black moids as much as white mouds as much as other shades of the rainbow—but I have mentioned before I hate hate hate HATE HATE those stinky fucking Rajeeshs.

If your company is in Blind, that app is filled to the curry stinking brim with “why can’t I get a date?” “Why are American so fat?” “Why won’t white women date me?”

These are just from the front page





My company has so many stinky Indians in our IT everytime I get stuck in an elevator with them i want to puke

 

[pork and beans]

I feel so conflicted between learning about men and having empathy for their issues and wanting men and women to live in harmony with each other (which is literally what God intended) versus not being able all to ignore the horrible man child misogyny I see on internet. And seeing how little empathy most men have for women. So why should I be generous in return?

I am on the same boat as you.... I want to I believe women and men are equal and able to live harmoniously, but the horrible things men do- both the stuff I read online but also the stuff in real life from own experiences and the other women in my life really challenge that belief... I don't want to believe men are bad as a whole because that seems too hopeless and illogically inconsistent or not scientifically sound (?), or that we would be better off in a separatist situation, but sometimes I wonder lol..... And personally I'd say most of the men in my life are very good and lovely, so...

I just wish men would..do better. And try to meet me half way, as I try to do them.

I try to remember that most men irl don’t think it’s acceptable to make jokes about women having sex with dogs or that the age of consent should be 14…. (Or do they…?)

Me too... I don't understand why some of them say the things they do and act the way they do and why they hold no empathy and harbor such contempt...
I think the ammount of men that think its acceptable to joke about think like that is simultaneously both bigger and smaller than we think LOL...

 

[Hassou Tobi]

but I have mentioned before I hate hate hate HATE HATE those stinky fucking Rajeeshs.

I want to say I am open to judging individuals as I meet them. I’m a top troon hater, but I will admit to knowing some pooners irl who are lovely ppl and only sort of insane.

But it’s not like the insane stories you hear about the pajeets are wrong. In Canada there’s something like 1 million+ Indian “college” students who actually came to work shitty fast food jobs. The girls in classes with the influx of pajeets will talk about how their professors had to start banning cell phones because the pajeets would just keep taking pictures of the white women during class and weird shit like that. And that is a tame example of what they are doing.

I am on the same boat as you.... I want to I believe women and men are equal and able to live harmoniously, but the horrible things men do- both the stuff I read online but also the stuff in real life from own experiences and the other women in my life really challenge that belief...

A lot of men just seem to hate us so much. Often just for existing.
If you’re not attractive they hate you for being an eyesore.
If you’re attractive they hate you for “manipulating them with your beauty” and not fucking them.
Etc etc

 

[FarmVille]

I want to say I am open to judging individuals as I meet them. I’m a top troon hater, but I will admit to knowing some pooners irl who are lovely ppl and only sort of insane.

But it’s not like the insane stories you hear about the pajeets are wrong. In Canada it’s insane and there’s something like 1 million+ Indian “college” students who actually came to work shitty fast food jobs. Anyway the college girls in classes with the influx of pajeets will talk about how their professors had to start banning cell phones in because the pajeets would just keep taking pictures of the white women during class and weird shit like that. And that is a tame example of what they are doing.

It’s a fucking scam, universities are creating graduate programs for literally no other reason than bringing in Rajeet’s rupis. There are some colleges in *rural Canada* with over 70% Indian students.

They are the worst sex pests. most of them are from high castes so they think they are hot shit and don’t understand that to white people they all smell like literal shit and no one gives a fuck. They are taught white women are all promiscuous whores then react with incel rage when rejected.