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When will Phil ragequit BG3?

  • Two Streams

    Votes: 37 17.9%
  • Four Streams

    Votes: 64 30.9%
  • Eight Streams

    Votes: 30 14.5%
  • When he kills himself

    Votes: 76 36.7%

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"the games inventory system is fucking terrible, so, im never going to find anything"

he is now scrolling through his inventory, we are still on lae'zels turn, it has been ten minutes.

This game throws a fair amount of consumables to you if you do the typical 'open every container'. But DnD is a game that rewards using what's given so doing the whole 'I'm saving everything' style play ends up being a waste. By Act 3 unless they're 4 or 5 tier spells the scrolls aren't worth keeping unless you use them as functional. Same thing with elixirs...better to use them and then get more later on.
 
You can, but you have to have also succeeded on the earlier rolls to persuade him to quit being a douche, or you get the result Phil did.
The Ketheric persuasion checks are pointless anyway, the first series of checks on the roof get interrupted by Aylin and you just get a few extra lines of dialogue out of it. Passing the checks in the colony will let you skip the first phase but this is far from ideal since Myrkul is a far bigger threat and all you did was make the fight needlessly harder by making him appear early.
This game throws a fair amount of consumables to you if you do the typical 'open every container'. But DnD is a game that rewards using what's given so doing the whole 'I'm saving everything' style play ends up being a waste. By Act 3 unless they're 4 or 5 tier spells the scrolls aren't worth keeping unless you use them as functional. Same thing with elixirs...better to use them and then get more later on.
Agreed, the only consumables worth having on hand at all times are healing pots and potions of speed (because losing concentration on hasted fucking sucks).
 

I agree that ADP was a retarded thing to have in Dark Souls 2, but comparing that game with BG3 is even more retarded

He basically wants every fight to be just characters walking up to an enemy in one turn and keep hitting them until they die, all happening on flat terrain with nothing in the environment to use to your advantage

If BG3 was like that he would then complain about how ranged party members can't get distance between enemies because they get in their face and when they turn around to run from them they keep getting backstabbed

I'm surprised that he didn't bitch about BG3 not being in real time instead of turn based (unless I missed it)

fucking idiot lol
 
He basically wants every fight to be just characters walking up to an enemy in one turn and keep hitting them until they die, all happening on flat terrain with nothing in the environment to use to your advantage
He just wants it to be an action RPG because there's a chance the game just lets him through after he bangs his head against the wall enough times despite the fact that he doesn't engage with over half of the game's mechanics, he can't do that with a cRPG like BG3. That's why he compares it with Soulslikes, he beat every FromSoftware Souls game despite only grasping how about 1/3 of the mechanics work, he beat both Nioh games despite the fact that he never used stances or active skills. He would've beaten those games faster if he engaged with their mechanics, but that requires using a wee bit of brainpower and he can't have that, not to mention that the games let him Grug smash his way through them once enough time passes so there's no need. For fuck's sake in Elden Ring he was 70 hours in when he asked the question "What is an Ash of War?"

BG3 makes you at least think about what you're doing and you can't just autopilot it and expect to progress and he can't handle it. It's not even a difficult game, it's based on an easy as fuck system (5e DnD) and you can make encounters even easier with lateral thinking, Larian put in a lot of stuff in the environment that help you out a lot. I dread to think how toxic he'd get if he had to play one of the Pathfinder games which are all about stats and number crunching.
 
He just wants it to be an action RPG because there's a chance the game just lets him through after he bangs his head against the wall enough times despite the fact that he doesn't engage with over half of the game's mechanics, he can't do that with a cRPG like BG3. That's why he compares it with Soulslikes, he beat every FromSoftware Souls game despite only grasping how about 1/3 of the mechanics work, he beat both Nioh games despite the fact that he never used stances or active skills. He would've beaten those games faster if he engaged with their mechanics, but that requires using a wee bit of brainpower and he can't have that, not to mention that the games let him Grug smash his way through them once enough time passes so there's no need. For fuck's sake in Elden Ring he was 70 hours in when he asked the question "What is an Ash of War?"

BG3 makes you at least think about what you're doing and you can't just autopilot it and expect to progress and he can't handle it. It's not even a difficult game, it's based on an easy as fuck system (5e DnD) and you can make encounters even easier with lateral thinking, Larian put in a lot of stuff in the environment that help you out a lot. I dread to think how toxic he'd get if he had to play one of the Pathfinder games which are all about stats and number crunching.

Which of the Pathfinder games are even good? Between Kingmaker and Wrath I guess. Watching this idiot bumble through bg3 makes me want to step up my rpg game.

At least getting through bg3 in 85 hours as my first 'real' rpg (admittedly with a friend's help for build stuff) makes me feel better now that I can watch Phil be in act 2, having skipped half of it, at 90+ hours. Madness.

Nothing raises the self esteem better.
 
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Which of the Pathfinder games are even good? Between Kingmaker and Wrath I guess. Watching this idiot bumble through bg3 makes me want to step up my rpg game.

At least getting through bg3 in 85 hours as my first 'real' rpg (admittedly with a friend's help for build stuff) makes me feel better now that I can watch Phil be in act 2, having skipped half of it, at 90+ hours. Madness.

Nothing raises the self esteem better.
Agreed with @JimiHendrix, Kingmaker does sound awesome conceptually but it drags on way too long in my opinion, apparently you're looking at a minimum investment of 120 hours just to beat it and frankly the juice ain't worth the squeeze. I tapped out at hour 30. Wrath of the Righteous I enjoyed. If BG3 is your babby's first cRPG I suggest you play the first 2 ones, they're classics, as well as Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2 which are Larian's previous games, they're awesome. Planescape Torment is an absolute banger as well, it's not difficult and it has a great setting and story. Some other classics I personally recommend are Neverwinter Nights, Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura, Fallout 1 (THEY DON'T MAKE GAMES LIKE THIS ANYMORE BECAUSE GAME DEVELOPERS ARE TOO BUSY BEING SISSIES THAT GET FUCKED IN THEIR ASS! IMMA BEAT YO MONKEY ASS) and 2 (I also like Tactics but it's a bit of a mixed bag) and the Ultima series.

I also like blobbers so I'd recommend you at least try Wizardry 8 as well as Might and Magic 6 and 7 (not to be confused with HEROES of Might and Magic which is a turn-based strategy series). If that subgenre of cRPGs isn't your thing then don't sweat it.
 
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Which of the Pathfinder games are even good? Between Kingmaker and Wrath I guess. Watching this idiot bumble through bg3 makes me want to step up my rpg game.

At least getting through bg3 in 85 hours as my first 'real' rpg (admittedly with a friend's help for build stuff) makes me feel better now that I can watch Phil be in act 2, having skipped half of it, at 90+ hours. Madness.

Nothing raises the self esteem better.
I admit this won't sound like a glowing endorsement because it's prefaced by "I dropped out around the middle of the game" but I thought Wrath of the Righteous was a huge step up from Kingmaker. And Kingmaker itself wasn't even bad necessarily, just rough around the edges in a lot of places. I feel like a lot of people stopped Kingmaker because it just sort of petered out as opposed to being an outright bad game. But yeah, what I played of Wrath was good, and the main reason I stopped was time limitations/having a hard time jumping back in once I had a little more free time to dedicate to it. Pathfinder is a lot crunchier than 5e, so you need more focus compared to BG3.

I'll echo the recommendations for the older D&D games/older DOS games. I think the first Divinity kinda has the same problem as Kingmaker where it's rough around the edges in some part, but the second is pretty solid overall, and I actually liked their combat systems more than the D&D based stuff. Torment has phenomenal writing and is top tier RPG. The actual gameplay is fairly simplistic, but it's one of the few games where I'd say the actual "gameplay" part is secondary. If you don't mind jumping genres to Star Wars, Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2 still hold up pretty well. 2 needs some fan patches to get a proper experience and also has fairly simplistic gameplay, but still worth a play. Both also have fairly weak initial showings with their tutorial levels.

I'd tentatively recomend the Dragon Age series, with the caveat that the first game is a really solid entry and then experiences a sharp decline in quality for the sequel games.
 
Kingmaker was like 4 bucks so I'll try that first and maybe move on to Wrath. Thanks for the suggestions all.

I wonder how little content in act 3 Phil will actually do. Has he even hit level 20?

The handholding is going to get worse because the city is much more open than act 1 and 2. Phil's gonna need his dents to handhold him at every intersection. Or he'll have a guide handy.
 
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I cannot praise the original Baldurs Gate harder. It is the happy little medium between presentation and really solid design. If you are willing to sacrifice a lot of presentation, my favorite CRPG is Pool of Radiance. But we are like talking hand drawn maps, and reading the manual for text boxes. But I am also not even remotely kidding. I love that game. Read an article from a guy calling it the finest tactical combat he has ever played, and I called that bluff. And I was very very surprised. Damn fine game.

Otherwise KotoR is great. I actually really like all three Witchers. But as it should be apparent, I hew really, really old. Just don't get much out of modern CRPGs, the way I do from older games. But I also play a lot of strategy games, like Close Combat and Steel Panthers. And where older games came from those influences, this new rennaissance forgot about them, and I think a lot has been lost.
 
Kingmaker was like 4 bucks so I'll try that first and maybe move on to Wrath. Thanks for the suggestions all.

I wonder how little content in act 3 Phil will actually do. Has he even hit level 20?

The handholding is going to get worse because the city is much more open than act 1 and 2. Phil's gonna need his dents to handhold him at every intersection. Or he'll have a guide handy.
Level cap in BG3 is 12, which can be a bit disappointing since you're most likely going to be at least lvl 9/10 by the end of act 2.

As for your next game I'd strongly suggest Divinity : Original Sin 2, since BG3 has far more in common with that series than it does with BG1&2. Pathfinder is an acquired taste on top of being really hard (compared to other crpgs).
 
Level cap in BG3 is 12, which can be a bit disappointing since you're most likely going to be at least lvl 9/10 by the end of act 2.

As for your next game I'd strongly suggest Divinity : Original Sin 2, since BG3 has far more in common with that series than it does with BG1&2. Pathfinder is an acquired taste on top of being really hard (compared to other crpgs).

Ah yeah sorry, 12. Which I assume Phil has hit but honestly he's done such little side content he might not have?
 
i woke up early and want to watch this, so I will.

phil compares the Emperor to Jack the Ripper, because I guess phil thinks Jack the Ripper killed criminals?

"so it's game of thrones. great. they turned it into game of thrones now."

???? where did game of thrones have a mindflayer who preyed on criminals, created a great criminal empire, then was dethroned by a political opponent and mentally enslaved? because I must've missed that episode.

"so that was pretty weird. my remaining question would be who really is in charge of all the elder brains?"

the illithid empire?

"uhhhhhhh....why does she have white hair now? are we just going to ignore the fact her hair color changed? what happened? she literally just had dark hair, we went to sleep, and now it's white? i don't even understand. how did she color her hair? it's intentional? she intentionally colored her hair gray? when did that happen? i have no idea, im really at a loss there, but ok."

you live in a world of talking dragons and magic and phil is completely fucking flabbergasted by a character changing their hair color.

a lost child approaches Phil and asks for help finding her mother, phil tells her to go fuck herself.

i just watched phil save twice in four minutes.

"so we're inside of a requesitionied bar and we're allowed to be here?"

yes? that's...what you bribed the guard for? does phil even pay attention to the things he does?

phil has spent the past 30 minutes solving a refugee murder case. none of it has been worth commenting on.

phil is low IQ and doesn't get the joke with +1 Breastplate as opposed to Breastplate +1

phil harassed a genie in a circus and was teleported to dinosaur land. he was not pleased about this turn of events.

his eye sight is so bad he was unable to see a literal gnome sized man fly across his screen. man jumped across phils screen and phil heard it and went "huh, what was that? something just moved."

he misclicked and shot Astarion in the face.

"wow, that's really unfortunate."

weird thing of note, when he shot Astarion in the face, Astarion was afflicted with Bane, which popped over his head, because of this, while apologizing, Phil called him Bane instead of Astarion.

phil spent 10 minutes buying armor at a shop, I have skipped ahead.

that is the end of phils stream, I know he is streaming again, right now, but I will not be available for it. maybe tomorrow. don't hold out hope tho.
 
weird thing of note, when he shot Astarion in the face, Astarion was afflicted with Bane, which popped over his head, because of this, while apologizing, Phil called him Bane instead of Astarion.
Pigroach luck strikes again, fucker got the God of Hate in his party. Oddly appropriate...
 
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