Why do we put so much stock into loli/underaged characters as a direct link to being a pedo?

[Lightsaber Dildo]

Cooming makes it worse not better. For some reason lolicon and shota is the magical exception and consuming it makes you less horny. Therapy also isn't the answer, its punitive justice. Suggesting therapy is making it everyone else's problem and that there is a way to fix it. Its a crime and should always remain that way.

This might be a novel concept to you but people don't choose to be pedophiles. They can choose to not touch kids, though. It's for that reason that we don't line up people who are born with a mental illness and shoot them in the head, because we as a society believe in rehabilitation of the retarded and not euthanization. If we punish pedophiles simply for being born we should do the same for every other mental illness. (i shouldnt say that because i know a sweeping majority of kiwis would agree with this, despite being mentally retarded themselves)

 

[WelperHelper99]

You didn't give any stats, you made some shit up and dismissed all those victims in favor of your point. All the kids who were touched by Catholics don't fucking matter to you? You don't give a shit about the safety of children, you just hate icky drawings. Stop pretending you care about kids.

For as much dumb shit there is on Wikipedia there is almost 500(!) sources presenting evidence of sexual abuse in the Catholic church on the page about the subject.

The catholic church is massive. With any organization it's going to happen. Bet I could find stats of Walmart greeters raping kids. That doesn't mean Walmart endorses raping children. Also my source was @Null . Ask him if priests rape less than school teachers.

On the end of lolicon end of things, there is literally no studies that can tie lolicon consumption directly to child abuse. In every case (that I know of) that lolicon was involved, real CP was also involved. The offendors were child molestors not because they looked at CP, but because they already wanted to molest kids.
In fact, there was a Czech study that found that reported cases of child abuse declined when simulated CP was legalized.

But how did they get to the point of wanting to touch a kid? You have to start somewhere. First it's drawings. Then it's CP. Then child rape. Also a European study. Disgusting.

So keep crying over fictional children while Pope Diddler has fun with real ones in the confessional.

Cathloics stilll rape less than the public school system dip shit!

 

[PermaLurker69]

This might be a novel concept to you but people don't choose to be pedophiles. They can choose to not touch kids, though. It's for that reason that we don't line up people who are born with a mental illness and shoot them in the head, because we as a society believe in rehabilitation of the retarded and not euthanization. If we punish pedophiles simply for being born we should do the same for every other mental illness. (i shouldnt say that because i know a sweeping majority of kiwis would agree with this, despite being mentally retarded themselves)

That can be applied to anything. People can have a mental illness to steal shit, psycopath, bestialiaty, etc. Wanting to coom to kids isn't something that you can just show up to something like anger management and have it under control. People are evil, its the concept of consequences that keep them in check. Asking for therapy when you should be locked up and separated from society with the rest of the people who don't have control. Once people start cooming to kids and don't stop, that is loss control. The answer is people don't coom to kids at all.

 

[r9k-speaks]

ill be frank and say child porn and drawings of children being fucked should be excluded from freedom of expression because they are the most immoral things out there

I always thought the drawings of children being disemboweled or decapitated was worse. But I guess thats what happens when everyones playing videogame shooters all the time.

 

[Omori Boy]

Because I'm too lazy to do this. Has anyone posted the 2019 9chan/kun story that Null told?

 

[Lightsaber Dildo]

The catholic church is massive. With any organization it's going to happen. Bet I could find stats of Walmart greeters raping kids. That doesn't mean Walmart endorses raping children. Also my source was @Null . Ask him if priests rape less than school teachers.

But how did they get to the point of wanting to touch a kid? You have to start somewhere. First it's drawings. Then it's CP. Then child rape. Also a European study. Disgusting.

Cathloics stilll rape less than the public school system dip shit!

And yet, we don't abolish the Catholic church, or the school system, because we acknowledge it's a problem with the people themselves. Those environments literally give the means and motivation for child molesters. What does lolicon do for a child molester? Nothing. Thanks for helping my point.

That can be applied to anything. People can have a mental illness to steal shit, psycopath, bestialiaty, etc. Wanting to coom to kids isn't something that you can just show up to something like anger management and have it under control. People are evil, its the concept of consequences that keep them in check. Asking for therapy when you should be locked up and separated from society with the rest of the people who don't have control. Once people start cooming to kids and don't stop, that is loss control. The answer is people don't coom to kids at all.

Then we're back to square one with this. If cooming to kids is the problem, then lolicon is the solution. Because they're not cooming to kids, they're cooming to drawings, and no kids will be harmed.

You know what? Maybe you guys are right, we should ban loli/shota art. If the global population is as retarded as the kiwis here who can't differentiate fiction from reality, then it's safe to assume a majority of pedophiles can't either, and we should ban it since everyone apparently has the IQ of a used condom and can't be trusted with free expression unless it's about hating trannies or niggers.

 

[Kiwisee]

Because I'm too lazy to do this. Has anyone posted the 2019 9chan/kun story that Null told?

I made reference to it on page 6, though I said 8Chan instead of 9.

 

[PermaLurker69]

You know what? Maybe you guys are right, we should ban loli/shota art. If the global population is as retarded as the kiwis here who can't differentiate fiction from reality, then it's safe to assume a majority of pedophiles can't either, and we should ban it since everyone apparently has the IQ of a used condom and can't be trusted with free expression unless it's about hating trannies or niggers.

Nigga, its not therapy or the existance of ai generated porn that is keeping kids from being molested.

Its societies utter repulsion and punishment from liking kids, fictional or not. Stop trying to make it seem like its okay or redeemable, its fucking weird.

 

[WelperHelper99]

And yet, we don't abolish the Catholic church, or the school system, because we acknowledge it's a problem with the people themselves. Those environments literally give the means and motivation for child molesters. What does lolicon do for a child molester? Nothing. Thanks for helping my point.

All loli does is ENCOURAGE them. Jeez, you are more stubborn than a clog in a drain. Loli isn't a institution, a environment, it's a way for pedophiles to skirt the boundaries and goon. It's inherently corrupted and evil. Destroy it.

 

[Lightsaber Dildo]

Nigga, its not therapy or the existance of ai generated porn that is keeping kids from being molested.

Its societies utter repulsion and punishment from liking kids, fictional or not. Stop trying to make it seem like its okay or redeemable, its fucking weird.

Not once did I say pedophilia was okay or redeemable you absolute fucking dipshit. I said it was a mental illness, not a choice. God you are stupid, there's nothing else I can say to you, you simply do not get it. Stop having this debate, you simply are not capable of it.

All loli does is ENCOURAGE them. Jeez, you are more stubborn than a clog in a drain. Loli isn't a institution, a environment, it's a way for pedophiles to skirt the boundaries and goon. It's inherently corrupted and evil. Destroy it.

Drawings...encourage people to touch kids? Are these drawings in the room with us right now, sweetie?

 

[WelperHelper99]

Not once did I say pedophilia was okay or redeemable you absolute fucking dipshit. I said it was a mental illness, not a choice. God you are stupid, there's nothing else I can say to you, you simply do not get it. Stop having this debate, you simply are not capable of it.

If it's not redeemable, why are you so insistent on fighting for loli hill? And begging everyone else to stop debating you? Sounds like you're losing.

Drawings...encourage people to touch kids? Are these drawings in the room with us right now, sweetie?

Yes in fact. Are you arguing now propaganda posters too don't elicit a emotional response? You look at and goon to enough loli, you'll eventually touch kids

 

[Lightsaber Dildo]

If it's not redeemable, why are you so insistent on fighting for loli hill? And begging everyone else to stop debating you? Sounds like you're losing.

Yes in fact. Are you arguing now propaganda posters too don't elicit a emotional response? You look at and goon to enough loli, you'll eventually touch kids

I present to you, a loli. Avert your eyes, lest you become a child molester:

That's right, this is a 14 year old girl. Do not gaze upon this image of a scantily clad drawing, or you may be a pedophile.

In conclusion to this braindead retarded debate where somehow everyone missed my point, I had fun creating this Kiwifarms guide to lolicon art (if you get banned in your country from viewing this FULLY UNCENSORED LOLICON ART I'm so sorry!):

Congrats, you now have lolicon in your browser cache. Have fun.

 

[r9k-speaks]

All loli does is ENCOURAGE them. Jeez, you are more stubborn than a clog in a drain. Loli isn't a institution, a environment, it's a way for pedophiles to skirt the boundaries and goon. It's inherently corrupted and evil. Destroy it.

Can we take out the furries as well? Since animal abuse is also one of my peeves.

 

[PermaLurker69]

Stop having this debate, you simply are not capable of it.

Noooo stalker child, it is you who does not get it. Enjoy prison.

It doesn't matter if its a mental illness, that is not an out. You saying this line is like a form of matt posting. You've used this line on everyone so far.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I present to you, a loli. Avert your eyes, lest you become a child molester:
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That's right, this is a 14 year old girl. Do not gaze upon this image of a scantily clad drawing, or you may be a pedophile.

In conclusion to this braindead retarded debate where somehow everyone missed my point, I had fun creating this Kiwifarms guide to lolicon art (if you get banned in your country from viewing this FULLY UNCENSORED LOLICON ART I'm so sorry!):

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I love the cherry picking. My guy, the way she's drawn, she could as easily be 20. Or 5000, this IS anime. The age tag matters less than the intent of the artist. Lolis usually don't have D-cups. Or a face without that baby cleft thing they do to make characters appear younger. You have not presented a actual loli. Fuck off.

 

[Lightsaber Dildo]

I love the cherry picking. My guy, the way she's drawn, she could as easily be 20. Or 5000, this IS anime. The age tag matters less than the intent of the artist. Lolis usually don't have D-cups. Or a face without that baby cleft thing they do to make characters appear younger. You have not presented a actual loli. Fuck off.

For someone who hates loli so passionately, you certainly know a lot more about it than me. DrPizza, is that you?

Noooo stalker child, it is you who does not get it. Enjoy prison.

It doesn't matter if its a mental illness, that is not an out. You saying this line is like a form of matt posting. You've used this line on everyone so far.

It does matter, that's why simply being a pedophile is not a criminal offense. I'm not a big fan of the government but I am thankful there are people who are much more sensible than you who make the laws in the U.S.

 

[cigint]

I present to you, a loli. Avert your eyes, lest you become a child molester:

Congrats, you now have lolicon in your browser cache. Have fun.

This is a hilarious bad-faith herring, but ultimately you're helping your opposition by posting images that very clearly are not examples of what's being discussed -- because you're in point of fact reinforcing the idea that there's a clear distinction between what a reasonable person would consider harmless (your example), and what would be obscene (the kind of images you wouldn't post).

Much like previously you shot yourself in the foot by bringing up abolition and gun control, since you effectively invited the comparison of loli to harmful substances that are controlled for good reason. That's literally the exact opposite direction of where you should attempt to move the discourse, being that your strategy was the whole "it's art and art shouldn't be limited" angle.

 

[WelperHelper99]

For someone who hates loli so passionately, you certainly know a lot more about it than me. DrPizza, is that you?

Ooh, I'M the pedophile for noticing the FACTS . My guy, I wasn't born yesterday. Lolis don't usually have D-cups. They aren't 14. They're usually like 5 in appearance, maybe 6. I know this through the power of OBSERVATION.

 

[Lightsaber Dildo]

This is a hilarious bad-faith herring, but ultimately you're helping your opposition by posting images that very clearly are not examples of what's being discussed -- because you're in point of fact reinforcing the idea that there's a clear distinction between what a reasonable person would consider harmless (your example), and what would be obscene (the kind of images you wouldn't post).

Much like previously you shot yourself in the foot by bringing up abolition and gun control, since you effectively invited the comparison of loli to harmful substances that are controlled for good reason. That's literally the exact opposite direction of where you should attempt to move the discourse, being that your strategy was the whole "it's art and art shouldn't be limited" angle.

They are exactly examples of what's being discussed. They are drawings of underage characters, scantily clad or naked, with the intent of invoking sensation in the viewer. If you were to ban lolicon under any reasonable criteria, even a stick figure could be scrutinized if a pedophile could get off to it. You know, since the end goal is not letting pedophiles coom to children.

Be my guest and go into detail about what makes lolicon art actually loli without sounding like a pedophile, I'll wait.

Ooh, I'M the pedophile for noticing the FACTS . My guy, I wasn't born yesterday. Lolis don't usually have D-cups. They aren't 14. They're usually like 5 in appearance, maybe 6. I know this through the power of OBSERVATION.

You're the one looking at drawings and seeing children, not me.

 

[WelperHelper99]

They are exactly examples of what's being discussed. They are drawings of underage characters, scantily clad or naked, with the intent of invoking sensation in the viewer. If you were to lolicon under any reasonable criteria, even a stick figure could be scrutinized if a pedophile could get off to it. You know, since the end goal is not letting pedophiles coom to children.

Be my guest and go into detail about what makes lolicon art actually loli without sounding like a pedophile, I'll wait.

Don't have to. You already know. That's why you chose not to show it because how bad it made you look.

You're the one looking at drawings and seeing children, not me.

Next you're gonna tell me I'm anti Semitic for noticing jews are rich.