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[The Delta Farce]

Ryan Owens, Navy SEAL Killed in Yemen, Was Braver Than America Knew​

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ryan-owens-navy-seal-killed-in-yemen-was-braver-than-america-knew

Ryan’s bravery as a Navy SEAL was not just on display when the bullets started flying. He was a recipient of the Navy and Marine Corps Medal, the Navy’s highest non-combat awarded for heroism.

On Sept. 26, 2012, Ryan was training SEALs for Team Six on a live firing range on Virginia Beach when he spotted a woman drowning.

“He’s shooting, has all his gear on, he looks out at the ocean because the dude always had his head on a swivel, always aware of what was going on around him, so he looks out and sees a girl struggling in the ocean... she’s drowning,” John said.

That’s when Ryan dove in.

“Without hesitation and at great risk to his life, he initiated a hasty rescue attempt without fins or a flotation device and dressed in his battle dress uniform,” the award citation states.

The woman was more than a half mile away from shore.

“He gets out there and says to her, ‘Hey, are you alright?’ and this girl basically wanted to die, she was trying to commit suicide and drown herself, and Ryan was like, ‘John, there was no way I was going to swim all the way out there and just let this girl kill herself.’”

John says Ryan grabbed the girl and calmed her down enough to physically swim her back to the shore, despite “her periodic resistance to lifesaving aid,” according to his award citation.

After over an hour of swimming the woman through a choppy sea and against visible rip currents, Ryan brought the woman to shore and put her in the care of medical personnel, but Ryan took a pounding in the rough ocean.

“By the time he got back and dragged her to shore, he was on all fours, it took it out of him, he was smoked, but he did what he had to do to save her,” John said. Ryan’s teammates would start singing “I need a hero” from the Bonnie Tyler song everytime he walked in the room after that day.

The Navy and Marine Corps Medal is the equivalent of the Bronze Star Medal, the nation’s fourth highest award. Ryan already had three of those, two for valor in combat.

“He didn’t want the medal.”

Ryan couldn’t have known it then but he was going to get another medal.

After Ryan died in January, he was awarded the Silver Star for valor in an undisclosed 2015 mission in Somalia and promoted to his current rank.

CNN first reported the news of Ryan’s Silver Star award; however, The Daily Beast has learned of new details about Ryan’s courage under fire that provides a glimpse into his time in Africa, including a previously undisclosed 12-day joint operation between the SEALs and Green Berets that supports Ryan’s Silver Star award citation.

Ryan’s SEAL team along with a Green Beret detachment was on a 12-day operation around July 9, 2015 to July 21, 2015 in war-torn Somalia.

Throughout several intense days of fighting, Ryan’s mobile special operations team encountered 400 enemy fighters that constantly ambushed and attacked Ryan’s convoy with small arms, machine guns, and improvised explosive devices.

John says when Ryan came home that year for Christmas, they walked outside, away from other family members. Ryan described the chaotic multiple day engagement with the enemy as “totally badass” and “the most amazing shit.” A helicopter had to drop additional .50 caliber ammunition to Ryan and his team during the fight because their mounted heavy weapons were running low on bullets. The waves of enemies attacking the SEALs and Green Berets called for multiple aircrafts to support the teams on the ground over a period of three days at one point.

“They had intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance assets over them the entire time, and just provided Ryan with a constant feed so he could make all the calls—he made all the right calls. The guy was smart, funny and capable.”

“There’s a letter a Green Beret captain wrote my dad, and said Ryan saved everybody's life, there’s no doubt about it. He said if it wasn’t for Ryan’s decision making, people would be dead,” John said.

 

[RX-78]

I know i'm late as fuck to this, that said I really do want to address this a little bit. I've made no secret that I was in the Army for a little bit in the early 90s

If you had to pin it to a five year period, when would you say the burger military became gay and retarded?

 

[Sammich]

If you had to pin it to a five year period, when would you say the burger military became gay and retarded?

Shit man, that's rough. It was a real slow thing, then it got much faster. DADT being repealed by Obama was one of the first bad signs, the the reduced physical standards over the past couple decades were always a bad idea. Now some people will argue the Navy has always been gay (and it has) but if i had to put a time frame, i'd say obama's first term.

 

[Lurker Child]

Now some people will argue the Navy has always been gay (and it has) but if i had to put a time frame, i'd say obama's first term.

I recently heard that way back in the day navy sailors had a reputation of being fuckboys. It's funny that that rep has gone from pump-and-dump to bum-and-suck lmao. I'm curious when that could've happened.

Also, someone should change the name SOCOM since my mind always echos "deez nuts" when reading it.

 

[Justtocheck]

navy sailors had a reputation of being fuckboys

Being bisexual is a thing. Also the port leave phrase "Boozed, screwed and tattoed" was historically true for most navies. Along with the brothel industry that was created wherever they went. But to be fair, it is not like the Army hates hookers, drinking and debauchery. It is just there was not that stark contrast with the navy of what happens when you get to land.

By the way, it is a historical thing. Gay sailors were ALWAYS there (I have read old sailors notes that complained about a fellow sailor being too much of a teether ) but there was a stigma and no social media, so unless you were paying a lot of attention, most straight men did not have a good gaydar and gay men acted like men, not fags.

obama's first term.

As someone a bit more left leaning that most of the website, I agree. Obama was a terrible president. Anti social for some reason. Apparently didn't even meet McChrystal once to discuss the plan for Afganistan and ISAF for the future and expected his aides to do it all for him. And apparently it was true for other branches of governance. He was an orator, not a leader.

 

[Sammich]

As someone a bit more left leaning that most of the website, I agree. Obama was a terrible president. Anti social for some reason.

I often say most of the ills of today can be traced back to reagan, with all the stupid bullshit he did with amnesty, gun laws and just the middle east faggotry. I reckon obama will be the genesis of a lot of the ills of future generations if we last that long. I've heard a lot of obama voters that absolutely hate the guy for many reasons. Now, some of those are dishonest, but most of them aren't. I'm closing in on my 50s in a few years, and I don't think, in my lifetime at least, racial division has been more explosive than it is now. A lot of other stuff plays into that, or is a result of that, and most of that can be laid mostly at his black feet. I don't think romney or mccain would have had us in a much different place though. what a couple of faggots those two bums were.

Sorry to sidetrack the thread here, I just wanted to respond.

 

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The panos there are cool. I don't think you can get away with "losing in the action" those. The neatest part of the equipment I find is the vest/plate carrier. It appears to have a front plate and a round neck protector and what it seems to be a "side plate" right to the left of the rifle. A new type of "vest"? Interesting. Also, the tactical DELTA flip-flops. I saw them once in Facebook marketplace, and they were like $200, heavy used, unwashed, so you could smell CAG's feet.

What can I say about the post. Yeah, it's an HK 416, maybe slightly modified. Big deal? It's a heavy-piston AR meant to work in bad conditions. The Marines are going to switch to it. It makes 5,56 holes, that's it.

Many guntubers (and surely gun people) are guilty of this; trying to imitate or clone a rifle of their favorite "soldier". The "Blackhawk Down" Gordon CAR-15, Rhodesian FAL (with shitty paint), the Travis Haley roof AR. And I get it, totally. LARPing is fun. But I hope these people realize it's not just the gun, it's the one who holds it, and not only that. It's just a small part of the toolkit. Nobody is asking what radios, GPS, Intelligence teams and assets, switchblade and other drone assets, ISR capabilities, vehicles, etc. Delta uses to gain an edge. It's just a fixation on "muh dick rifle".

 

[Poki Moki]

This thread is exactly the sort of shitshow they've had on /k/ ever since the various mil tripfags left. People will regurgitate the most inane speculation and bullshit from half-remembered threads full of speculation and bullshit.
My only contribution to this right now is to say that Code Over Country is a must-read for this thread, and so is Alpha (about the Gallagher case). I actually followed the Gallagher stuff pretty closely for a while, and thought he was being railroaded, but Alpha really changed my mind. That dude is guilty as fuck.
Also Eric Prince's Civilian Warriors is a good read.

Revisiting this thread after a long time.
Nothing has changed.
I'm a big fan of calling out corruption and shit but this whole "here's some guys falling down getting out of a helicopter!" or "I bet that guy wasn't REAL special forces, because I have a friend who says that they yadda yadda" or "Delta Force and SF are actually pussies" is /k/ tier airsoft LARPer discourse.

Whoever said that learning Pashto was "discouraged" (can't bother looking up your quote), that is the dumbest most made-up bullshit in the world and you should be ashamed.

All Secure got mentioned several pages back, good book, but extremely depressing.

 

[Finnish Air Force]

Drone Warrior: An Elite Soldier's Inside Account of the Hunt for America's Most Dangerous Enemies​

A former Delta Force black ops member takes us inside America's covert drone war in this headline-making, never-before-told account for fans of Zero Dark Thirty and Lone Survivor, told by a Pulitzer Prize-winning Wall Street Journal writer and filled with eye-opening and sure to be controversial details.
For nearly a decade, Brett Velicovich was at the center of America's new warfare: using unmanned aerial vehicles - drones - to take down the world's deadliest terrorists across the globe. One of an elite handful in the entire military with the authority to select targets and issue death orders, he worked in concert with the full human and technological network of American intelligence - assets, analysts, spies, informants - and the military's elite operatives to stalk, capture, and eliminate high-value targets in al-Qaeda and ISIS.
In this remarkable book, cowritten with journalist Christopher S. Stewart, Velicovich offers unprecedented perspective on the remarkably complex nature of drone operations and the rigorous and wrenching decisions behind them. In intimate, gripping detail, he shares action-packed insider stories of the most coordinated, advanced, and secret missions that neutralized terrorists, preserved the lives of US and international warriors across the globe, and saved countless innocents in the hottest conflict zones today.
Drone Warrior also chronicles the US military's evolution in the past decade and the technology driving it. Velicovich considers the future it foretells and speaks candidly on the physical and psychological toll it exacts, including the impact on his own life. He reminds us that while these machines can kill, they can also be used productively to improve and preserve life, including protecting endangered species, work he is engaged in today.
Joining warfare classics such as American Sniper, Lone Survivor, and No Easy Day, Drone Warrior is the definitive account of our nation's capacity and capability for war in the modern age.

Amazon

 

[Justtocheck]

Revisiting this thread after a long time.
Nothing has changed.
I'm a big fan of calling out corruption and shit but this whole "here's some guys falling down getting out of a helicopter!" or "I bet that guy wasn't REAL special forces, because I have a friend who says that they yadda yadda" or "Delta Force and SF are actually pussies" is /k/ tier airsoft LARPer discourse.

Whoever said that learning Pashto was "discouraged" (can't bother looking up your quote), that is the dumbest most made-up bullshit in the world and you should be ashamed.

All Secure got mentioned several pages back, good book, but extremely depressing.

What? Didn't you like that we actually got a canoed photo on the OP and that we have leaks from JSOC with new suicide drones and drones that can kill cars? You are not easy to impress lol.

Falling out of a helicopter is a small fuck up but tripping while carrying +70 pounds gear can happen. I agree, it's a bit overblown.

Here's the thing, people do a career in the military, let's say they become an officer and then go to Special Forces MOS. Well, when you come back to civilian life, people look at that and have some expectations from that career path, which gives you a certain cred and job opportunities. And when you spent 10 years as an SF officer, and you get folded to the ground by the sound of an acorn, yeah, that's fucking laughable.

Especially when you got insanely tough people in SF like Nick "Machine" Lavery who had to had femur extension surgeries to get the prosthesis and walk and deploy again, with a very high above the knee amputation. Now that's fucking badass.


Please, do share your knowledge of how language learning was encouraged/discouraged during GWOT. I truly don't know, and I do have some doubts. @OutInTheRain it's good to get your side. Perhaps you two had different experiences.

As for Tom Satterly and his book "All Secure", yeah, it's depressing as fuck. Mogadishu, Iraq, drinking, suicide attempts. It doesn't paint a pretty picture of what service in The Unit is like. But he's honest about it, and matches with other testimonies, and doesn't grift his service as others do, but instead wants to help veterans. He's cool in my eyes.

 

[The Delta Farce]

I believe Brent Tucker has been mentioned before. He is a former Delta Force operator who does a podcast and has called out Rob O'Neill and other SEAL Corruption stories. Example

Well, it turns out Brent himself was fired from Delta. Info comes from @sleven__kelevra on Instagram who was, at least until recently a Delta Force OTC instructor.

https://www.instagram.com/sleven__kelevra/

Sleven Kelevra's real name is Josh Martin. He actually posted some photos of himself in uniform and appeared on a few podcasts while on active duty. Which I was dumb and didn't archive. People recognized him from public Afghanistan photos and then put 2 and 2 together on his IG.

 

[OutInTheRain]

Please, do share your knowledge of how language learning was encouraged/discouraged during GWOT. I truly don't know, and I do have some doubts. @OutInTheRain it's good to get your side. Perhaps you two had different experiences.

Without powerleveling too much I'm not an American. Cultural Sensitivity training was 2 days out of all of build up training. All it really did was make them seem like savages. As well we got a cheat sheet of 10 words and like three phrases. The Provincial Reconstruction Team(PRT) to my knowledge got more, but it was just a few weeks, and those were the guys going into villages and "talking" to people. It was disseminated down that we only need to know what is required to be effective at our job(Which coincidentally was the aforementioned sheet), and that going out of our way to learn the language from a non-approved source, could lead to incorrect information which could lead to "misunderstandings." Furthermore, we were told and it was doubly stressed for the PRT to only speak through our translators to avoid "misunderstandings." One instance of this caused an officer to take an axe to the skull, so everyone was skittish about letting the subhumanoids(military members) talk to the Afghanis.

That wasn't even the wackiest stuff we got. We were ordered not to talk to any american wearing a pink belt, as that meant they were a hooker. There were parts of camps that were designated no go zones. A bank of porta potties that were designated the "Marine Sex Toilets" and we were banned from being near them. In all honesty their thinking was, if you die, then the CO isn't in trouble, if you die oddly or do something stupid, then the CO gets into trouble.

 

[Tenshi Eating A Corn Dog!]

Without powerleveling too much I'm not an American. Cultural Sensitivity training was 2 days out of all of build up training. All it really did was make them seem like savages. As well we got a cheat sheet of 10 words and like three phrases. The Provincial Reconstruction Team(PRT) to my knowledge got more, but it was just a few weeks, and those were the guys going into villages and "talking" to people. It was disseminated down that we only need to know what is required to be effective at our job(Which coincidentally was the aforementioned sheet), and that going out of our way to learn the language from a non-approved source, could lead to incorrect information which could lead to "misunderstandings." Furthermore, we were told and it was doubly stressed for the PRT to only speak through our translators to avoid "misunderstandings." One instance of this caused an officer to take an axe to the skull, so everyone was skittish about letting the subhumanoids(military members) talk to the Afghanis.

That wasn't even the wackiest stuff we got. We were ordered not to talk to any american wearing a pink belt, as that meant they were a hooker. There were parts of camps that were designated no go zones. A bank of porta potties that were designated the "Marine Sex Toilets" and we were banned from being near them. In all honesty their thinking was, if you die, then the CO isn't in trouble, if you die oddly or do something stupid, then the CO gets into trouble.

Didn't know going to Dearborn, Michigan was this scary.

 

[Justtocheck]

I believe Brent Tucker has been mentioned before. He is a former Delta Force operator who does a podcast and has called out Rob O'Neill and other SEAL Corruption stories. Example

Well, it turns out Brent himself was fired from Delta. Info comes from @sleven__kelevra on Instagram who was, at least until recently a Delta Force OTC instructor.
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https://www.instagram.com/sleven__kelevra/

Sleven Kelevra's real name is Josh Martin. He actually posted some photos of himself in uniform and appeared on a few podcasts while on active duty. Which I was dumb and didn't archive. People recognized him from public Afghanistan photos and then put 2 and 2 together on his IG.
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>You were in a humanitarian trip in Africa and Al-Quaeda kidnaps you. Rest assured, Uncle Sam sent Josh Martin, Delta Force, to rescue you.
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But yeah, no, the SEALs are the clown organization. Delta Force is absolutely professional, and their members carry themselves maturely, seriously and as adults. Also, this dude Josh, has issues. His IG is full of pics of him with his hands cut, calloused and stitched in one case.

https://www.instagram.com/sleven__kelevra/

Regardless, about Brent Tucker getting fired, and my issue is more about the culture itself than about Brent, who I don't care much for. It's a bitch move to just put out there "Too bad you were fired from Delta." And not even give a reason why to a former Unit member got let go who supposedly was your "brotha" and "your life was on his hands".

Josh, give the fucking reason and don't fucking leave it hanging. Why was he "fired" if at all? It's a world of difference if Brent got injured and could not perform to Unit standards and got let go because of that, or if Brent went to CQB practice drunk and high, and almost shot a teammate or if his footlocker was full of lolicon.

There is a difference, and just dropping "he was fired" and end it there, is snake behavior and an unprofessional way to treat a coworker, even if you didn't like each other. There's no respect in Delta it seems.

Without powerleveling too much I'm not an American. Cultural Sensitivity training was 2 days out of all of build up training. All it really did was make them seem like savages. As well we got a cheat sheet of 10 words and like three phrases. The Provincial Reconstruction Team(PRT) to my knowledge got more, but it was just a few weeks, and those were the guys going into villages and "talking" to people. It was disseminated down that we only need to know what is required to be effective at our job(Which coincidentally was the aforementioned sheet), and that going out of our way to learn the language from a non-approved source, could lead to incorrect information which could lead to "misunderstandings." Furthermore, we were told and it was doubly stressed for the PRT to only speak through our translators to avoid "misunderstandings." One instance of this caused an officer to take an axe to the skull, so everyone was skittish about letting the subhumanoids(military members) talk to the Afghanis.

That wasn't even the wackiest stuff we got. We were ordered not to talk to any american wearing a pink belt, as that meant they were a hooker. There were parts of camps that were designated no go zones. A bank of porta potties that were designated the "Marine Sex Toilets" and we were banned from being near them. In all honesty their thinking was, if you die, then the CO isn't in trouble, if you die oddly or do something stupid, then the CO gets into trouble.

Wow, that is awful. The information is very valuable OutinTheRain, but that is nightmarishly awful. Pink belt Americans and Marine Sex Toilets on base. Oof. I googled some of it in Bing, and it seems to check out.

@Finnish Air Force ""Joining warfare classics such as American Sniper, Lone Survivor, and No Easy Day, Drone Warrior is the definitive account of our nation's capacity and capability for war in the modern age.""

Wow, what an honor, being compared to the greatest war books in American war literature with authors like Chris Kyle, Matt Bissonette, and Fucking Marcus Luttrel. Jesus Christ, did nobody read the Forever War or The Naked and the Dead? Fuck you, Brett Velicovich.

Edit: I re-edited the OP. Decided that DJ's description needed to mention his service since he did fight a nasty war for almost 10 years. IMO it's okay to poke fun, but also to give credit where credit is due.

 

[RX-78]

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Is it weird that I think he looks like a tranny? He's got the weird facial skin tightness you see on the Bruce genner types.

Shit man, that's rough. It was a real slow thing, then it got much faster. DADT being repealed by Obama was one of the first bad signs, the the reduced physical standards over the past couple decades were always a bad idea. Now some people will argue the Navy has always been gay (and it has) but if i had to put a time frame, i'd say obama's first term.

Yeah king nigger is typically listed as the point of no return whenever I ask what the hell happened to the military. You're also right about reagan and I'll take it a step further by pointing out that modern California is the direct result of the policies he created. Fat ass boomers complain that children don't play outside, but fail to notice the abundance of schizos wandering free.

 

[Finnish Air Force]

calloused and stitched in one case.

Looks like a breaching accident which is why he won't say what it was. TFW when you're an instructor and you blow your fingers off trying to demonstrate

>You were in a humanitarian trip in Africa and Al-Quaeda kidnaps you. Rest assured, Uncle Sam sent Josh Martin, Delta Force, to resuce you.
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Fun fact: Every single successful hostage rescue of an American citizen on land (during which the assault force faced armed resistance, and it wasn't just a handover) in the past 20 years was conducted by SEAL Team 6. Delta hasn't conducted a successful uniltateral rescue of an American citizen against armed resistance since Panama. If you get kidnapped in Africa, SEAL Team 6 will get you out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nigeria_hostage_rescue And the commanders of SOCOM and JSOC were both Army Generals at the time. No navy homers there. The fact that they continue to be chosen for land based hostage rescues speaks volumes.

Is it weird that I think he looks like a tranny? He's got the weird facial skin tightness you see on the Bruce genner types.

Puts on Alex Jones hat: I seriously wonder if there's something in the water at Bragg (lead, pfas, etc) A lot of Delta operators and Green Berets stationed there look straight up unhealthy.

 

[The Delta Farce]

This military special ops unit is so classified, even its name is a secret — and getting into it is absolute hell
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[Justtocheck]

This military special ops unit is so classified, even its name is a secret — and getting into it is absolute hell
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It really seems like you've got to shoot fast, east ass and enjoy getting choked to get into the SECRET "UNIT". (Even though for the most part, the training phases are known because Delta is a carbon copy of the SAS which has the survival and interrogation resistance training part at the end, which has been known for decades. Of course, an Egyptian immigrant wouldn't know that.)

At this point, I pretty sure the random changes of name from Delta to CAG to SMU to the UNIT or the ACTIVITY are just there to keep the 85 IQ crowd confused about who people are referring to.

Edit: Adam Gamal apparently is not part of Delta, but another secret not-secret org called ISA, and uses people who know the local languages for secret ops. But also works in JSOC, so just a different part of spook work. They called themselves "the unit", but also "the activity" which is the giveaway because Delta doesn't call themselves that. So the name salad worked well enough to confuse me. Lmao, self-owned.

By the way, Adam Gamal, god fucking damn it. If you are going for a Jin-Roh and Black Powder Red Earth aesthetic on the cover, don't be a cuck and fucking show canoed pics. Or at least some fucking atrocity. Don't pussy out on the Gore, Big Dick Playah.

Soyjak face: Noooo, good sir! I might use the visual imagery of a death squad hit team as advertising, but in reality I'm a good boi and our Unit only does the nicest, most moral kind of work. Fuck you I'm not showing you any of the pics of my "canoed" collection, which doesn't totally exist, I must add!

 

[The Delta Farce]

It really seems like you've got to shoot fast, east ass and enjoy getting choked to get into the SECRET "UNIT". (Even though for the most part, the training phases are known because Delta is a carbon copy of the SAS which has the survival and interrogation resistance training part at the end, which has been known for decades. Of course, an Egyptian immigrant wouldn't know that.)

I think he was in the ISA or Intelligence Support Activity, not Delta. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_Support_Activity