Navy SEALs, Delta Force, and SOCOM general - The most "Special" groups in the U.S. Military

It's not "weird". They are making millions through their side hussles, movies, book deals and consulting. In the book, "Code Over Country" there were reports of equipment procurement corruption, SEALs reported "missing" equipment and even mentioned that in the Captain Philips incident, at one point they gave the Somalis in a bag 30K to appease them before the shootout. Then the SEALs assaulted the boat and mysteriously the 30K "disappeared". They claimed it was "thrown overboard" lol.
Being maintenance, one of the first things we learn is the process to get shit written off. Mainly because of how stupid the system works, in our own maintenance org; we have our own office people who are there to do paperwork (we're all trained the same, these ones just do bitch work) while everyone else does the actual maintenance work. Naturally, because people are people, numbers don't always add up and you end up with the office whores yelling at you about what is proper and you're there actually knowing shit and saying "Yeah, we don't have that. By the way, when did all this other bullshit come in?" We learn how to make shit disappear in reality and on paper. I'm damn near foaming at the mouth out of jealousy for the type of shit these retards can just fucking get written off and then take home.

It would be extremely interesting and I assume highly classified if the US had an EMP drone. Imagine being a drone operator sworn to secrecy and you can't resist posting on IG.
Air Force incels and War Gamers are the two biggest internal threats; at least the ones that aren't foreigners.

The green berets are totally different way of waging warfare the special operations unit but the main thing they do is go in and work with insurgents groups or local friendly militias they're actually effective anti insurgent groups unlike the overpaid an overhyped Navy seals in delta force
the Navy seals and delta force seem to just go around killing random civilians and committing war crimes
The Seals are a glorified hit team. Do they get a lot of training, the best toys, and a number of other things yes; but they're on par with a prison gang, and the Warden is always turning a blind eye, because they like to pretend kidnapping a dude to torture and kill him is far more important than just sending an airstrike to fucking flatten his house. Feel free to argue about securing intel; but a normal fucking team with some support could handle it.

This doesn't surprise me at all. Retention is getting so bad that there have been listings for commander positions on nuclear-armed submarines listed on LinkedIn and Indeed. This was before they got taken down, of course, but it makes me question how badly soldiers of all ranks are being treated if they can't even properly staff nuclear-armed submarines. From my links in both the enlisted service and the few honest-speaking connections in the 2, 3, and 4-star commanding positions that I talk regularly with, it's getting very bad. There's talk of shifting recruitment to new college grads in exchange for student debt relief.
The Navy is having a huge personnel problem, a big one are ships being at port for repairs/maintenance and no idea when it'll be complete. Meanwhile the sailors are wasting away and being neglected (best way I can describe it). On top of everyone getting out, they pushed the age limit all the way to 40 for new enlisted, and have even gone and cleansed PFT failures off personnel records to try and keep bodies. If the puppeteer with their hand up Biden's ass is serious about China, with our current Navy, we are absolutely fucked.

Could be worse, I just watched the CEO of my company screw up 'principle' vs 'principal'.
Not to get into the story, but I had a 2 hour argument about proper use of "an" or "a" with a Staff Sergeant.
 
Apparently that cop who mag dumped his own car because an acorn fell on it was a special forces officer for a decade. He also somehow never saw combat through the whole thing, which would lead me to believe he was clearly not fit for field work but passed everything so it'd be awkward to outright remove the guy and instead immediately made him a staffer or something.
"Thank god it wasn't a walnut, otherwise SWAT would have been needed" The comment section always gets a chuckle out of me.
Saw the video, not only did he not get shot at, and rolled like a maniac, yelled he was hit, but he also missed every shot he put towards the handcuffed melaninated gentleman in the car, Jackson. There's a big pay day coming for m'boi. I hope he has a Stake.com account.

For all the crap they get, the female officer acted really professionally, saw a fellow officer in the ground who yelled I'm hit and returned fire and assessed the situation. The High Speed is a danger to himself, other officers, and the public at large. I'm legit wondering if this case was a Special Forces Officer being "a bad one that fell through the cracks and made it", or if Special Forces is just one big crack where all the loonies fall, like the acorn. Worst of all, he was an Officer. Not a rando enlisted with a 4-year contract.
"Yeah, we don't have that. By the way, when did all this other bullshit come in?" We learn how to make shit disappear in reality and on paper. I'm damn near foaming at the mouth out of jealousy for the type of shit these retards can just fucking get written off and then take home.
Millions of taxpayer money got robbed, for sure. I'd like to see some of the former Unit and SEAL guys personal armory to see how many keep their G.I. toys.

You mean this video or is this just a the part of it?
There was a video, I think 30 min on liveleak that was subbed and showed the aftermath. They showed Danny Dietz and I think Murphy dead. What was interesting about the Taliban, was that apparently they were yelling at them to surrender. Of course, since no 'muricans speaks Pashtun even though THE MILITARY OPERATED IN THAT COUNTRY FOR 20 FUCKING YEARS, they didn't hear that and got killed. Dietz had his dust cover on, so he probably got killed in the initial moments of the ambush.

And then, when inspecting the body of Dietz, they were pretty respectful, and they didn't grab his guns like apes and started playing with them. Instead, they were more focused on his GPS and comms equipment, which I thought very interesting. For all the shit they get, Taliban are quite sophisticated. Even in 2005. I've been looking for it, but since liveleak got nuked, and didn't think to archive it, maybe the US gov manage to nuke it off the clearweb. If someone knows where to get the full vid with bodies and subtitles, that'd be cool.
 
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Apparently that cop who mag dumped his own car because an acorn fell on it was a special forces officer for a decade. He also somehow never saw combat through the whole thing, which would lead me to believe he was clearly not fit for field work but passed everything so it'd be awkward to outright remove the guy and instead immediately made him a staffer or something.
How the fuck are you in special forces of all things and NOT see combat of any sort? Isn't that what you're signed up for?
 
How the fuck are you in special forces of all things and NOT see combat of any sort? Isn't that what you're signed up for?
Like I said, I assume that the military screened that this guy absolutely should not be in the field but had already invested too much in him to just turn him down entirely and fast tracked him to rear echelon.
 
How the fuck are you in special forces of all things and NOT see combat of any sort? Isn't that what you're signed up for?
Like I said, I assume that the military screened that this guy absolutely should not be in the field but had already invested too much in him to just turn him down entirely and fast tracked him to rear echelon.
Yeah, just because you are "Special Forces" doesn't mean you are going to be leading door kickers. Special Forces in the US Army deals with training foreign people and coordinating. Perhaps his Spanish was good (Officer HERNANDEZ) and they were like fuck it. And maybe did some low level jobs in the rear echelon coordinating shit or working with Colombians, training in the jungle or whatever.

The fact that he couldn't tell the difference between an Acorn or a silenced gunshot seriously means he almost certainly saw zero action and never got shot at. Also, very tough showing on his part of what Spec Ops are made of. He got folded into the ground and started rolling like he just took a pistol round to his vest just from the sound of an acorn. Moreover, the fucker MISSED, so if Jackson was indeed hiding a silenced pistol in his butthole and fired at him while cuffed, he would have accomplished nothing.
 
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How the fuck are you in special forces of all things and NOT see combat of any sort? Isn't that what you're signed up for?
There are many sorts of jobs where one might never even get to fire a single round, like observation post work, close protection in a safe area, swimming to a ship to plant a limpet mine, translator work, interrogations, etc.
 

The Antihero podcast talking about SEAL corruption and lies. Timothy Szymanski is mentioned. Good podcast, and also has the "O'Neill web of lies" video. Just ignore the intro of this podcast, because they embody the most insufferable part of the vetbro community. There's obnoxious and trashy cigar smoking as well.

Edit: >Can't you tell we are MEN and VETBROS?!
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There is. Unlikely a plan disagreement derailed his promotion. Once you are promoted above 0-5 (LTC in the Army) it becomes a political game promotions are approved by Congress at that point
Without a doubt. I know I was told a very watered-down version of the story and there are probably a dozen or so events that preceded the story I was told. The culmination of those unknown events is, for sure, what caused the delay of the promotion; with the operational disagreement being the cherry on top. However, I cannot personally attest to what those preceding events were.
 
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There was a video, I think 30 min on liveleak that was subbed and showed the aftermath. They showed Danny Dietz and I think Murphy dead. What was interesting about the Taliban, was that apparently they were yelling at them to surrender. Of course, since no 'muricans speaks Pashtun even though THE MILITARY OPERATED IN THAT COUNTRY FOR 20 FUCKING YEARS, they didn't hear that and got killed. Dietz had his dust cover on, so he probably got killed in the initial moments of the ambush.
Learning Pashtun at one point was discouraged because the guys who knew it, would beat the fuck out of translators that they learned were lying to them.
 
Learning Pashtun at one point was discouraged because the guys who knew it, would beat the fuck out of translators that they learned were lying to them.
What? I mean, I could believe it, but that sounds like the dumbest line of reasoning to fight a counter-insurgency. If there's something that is really fucking likely to get you killed, it is a bad 'terp playing both sides or outright fucking you over. Learning a bit, to at least know when you are getting bent over, seems reasonable enough.
 
What? I mean, I could believe it, but that sounds like the dumbest line of reasoning to fight a counter-insurgency. If there's something that is really fucking likely to get you killed, it is a bad 'terp playing both sides or outright fucking you over. Learning a bit, to at least know when you are getting bent over, seems reasonable enough.
Afghanistan was really, really stupid for a lot of it. Most of the coalition partners all hated each other and everyone was just trying to keep out of the news as there really wasn't a way to win. So when a reporter gets wind that Corporal Smith just beat Ahmed with a hose for lying to him about what was said during a conversation, well it's just a white dude beating an Afghani as far as the news is concerned. Having a scandal like that erupt basically fucks the current commander's chances of promotion after his tour is done. Which is the only reason he's there.
 
How the fuck are you in special forces of all things and NOT see combat of any sort? Isn't that what you're signed up for?
1) Being in special forces =/= being special forces. Plenty of people in special forces units who just support the actual infantry types doing actual special forces things.

2) He probably wasnt special forces at all if he spent 10 years in it during GWOT and never saw combat.
 
Why would I do that? I’m just here to enjoy some special examples of assholes and paint the rest of the US armed forces with the same brush while ignoring the rest of the world, because context is almost as gay as the navy.

Anything to help internet randoms walk away with the idea that America isn’t worth defending and it would be kinda cool to eat plastic rice fried with gutter oil.
I know i'm late as fuck to this, that said I really do want to address this a little bit. I've made no secret that I was in the Army for a little bit in the early 90s, and I was very much a flag waving warmongering RAH RAH sort of guy. All that said, most of these people mentioned here were scumbag faggots using their rank, using their service to do some terrible shit. Calling these assholes out isn't calling the entire military out, it's not shitting on the military, it's very much the opposite.
I do understand you, I feel much the same, I am well aware some people hate the military and will use anything ot smear them all, not a lot we can do about that, fuck em.
 
CAG B Squadron Operators. Unblurred is Luis Zendejas. https://www.instagram.com/luiezofficial/?hl=en
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AFAIK the only CAG Operator, current or former, to say anything at all about the Billy Lavigne murder.
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Army records: Murdered Delta Force soldier used coke, meth, heroin after shooting best friend
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Need some help investigating another individual potentially tied to CAG. CSM Clemente A. Gamez supposedly was in Delta's covered aviation unit - Flight Concepts Division - and has a string of sexual harassment claims against him.



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Why would I do that? I’m just here to enjoy some special examples of assholes and paint the rest of the US armed forces with the same brush while ignoring the rest of the world, because context is almost as gay as the navy.

Anything to help internet randoms walk away with the idea that America isn’t worth defending and it would be kinda cool to eat plastic rice fried with gutter oil.
All that said, most of these people mentioned here were scumbag faggots using their rank, using their service to do some terrible shit. Calling these assholes out isn't calling the entire military out, it's not shitting on the military, it's very much the opposite.
Sammich, you are right, if there's no public accountability, the bad behavior will keep happening.

Spergio, what you are asking me to do is a) Not mention anything that would make the U.S. Spec Ops bad because b) that might make people think the rest of the U.S. Military is bad so c) We should "not talk about" AKA "cover up" when someone in the U.S. Military does the Naughty.

What you are basically asking me is an argument the officers use all the time to justify doing a cover-up of crimes. And if the bad actors know that they'll be covered up when they do the naughty by their superiors because they want to protect "the whole", the naughty will keep happening.
AFAIK the only CAG Operator, current or former, to say anything at all about the Billy Lavigne murder.
Lmao, Luis is being sponsored in his racing career by MULTICAM and Knights Armament. Guess the SMU has its perks. And well, he just left a "Fucken Billy" and sweat emoji. Probably knew each other. And Luis probably knew what "Billy" was up to with the drugs.
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About CSM Clemente A. Gamez, I'll see what's out there. Perhaps @JIDF Team 6 knows too where to look.
 
Sammich, you are right, if there's no public accountability, the bad behavior will keep happening.

Spergio, what you are asking me to do is a) Not mention anything that would make the U.S. Spec Ops bad because b) that might make people think the rest of the U.S. Military is bad so c) We should "not talk about" AKA "cover up" when someone in the U.S. Military does the Naughty.

What you are basically asking me is an argument the officers use all the time to justify doing a cover-up of crimes. And if the bad actors know that they'll be covered up when they do the naughty by their superiors because they want to protect "the whole", the naughty will keep happening.
I wanted to be fair to him, I don't think he understands exactly what he is asking here. It's the same issue I have with the "one bad apple" thing with police, the so called "good apples" are always running cover for the bad ones. Hell, the same goes when anyone gets accused of stuff they always hide behind identity, it's poisonous and destructive and it needs to fucking stop.

I remember when i first seen this thread, I was concerned of that it might just be some anti military dude shitting on the military as a whole, I was wrong and I'm happy I was, you have a very good and helpful thread here.
 
Spergio, what you are asking me to do is a) Not mention anything that would make the U.S. Spec Ops bad because b) that might make people think the rest of the U.S. Military is bad so c) We should "not talk about" AKA "cover up" when someone in the U.S. Military does the Naughty.
That’s not the case at all. I was bitching about how narrow you wanted the focus to be, that it specifically had to be Americans and the thread wasn’t for calling out anyone else
 
FRESH OFF THE PRESS.
So DJ Shipley's company GBRS GROUP fucked up hard. They sent a black worker to deliver a lower through the mail, and then the package went missing. So called the po-po and accused the black worker of theft. 5 minutes later, the lower arrived by mail. I'm hearing talk that DJ might be in trouble for this one. I'm thinking m'boi here is going to get a pay day for wrongful arrest if he gets a good lawyer.
Also there's DJ Shipley drama alert. When he was on his cheating rampage, he got one of the women pregnant and the child is being raised and cared by Don Shipley Sr. and Diane Shipley. DJ doesn't even visit them, apparently, or interacts with his son out of wedlock.
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Also look at this tough guy. LMAO, the copypasta wasn't too far off I guess.
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I wouldn't be afraid tbh of taking on DJ hand to hand. He's had surgery in every major joint, neck and spine. He's more roids than strength. But beating on someone with crippling injuries is not something one should be proud of.

Edit: @SpergioLeonne for what it's worth, and I hear, slavic Spec Ops are pretty terrible in many ways (and surely from other countries). But I can't follow all their drama due to language barrier issues.
 
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