Do Men Even Like Women?

[KittyGremlin]

And this same mindset is raising young girls who believe there is such a big disparity that- my niece, who at 12, said she was scared to ever date a man because she didn't want to be raped....

This reminds me of when I was five and claimed I'd never marry because I wanted to keep all money to myself. Or when I was twelve and was a leftie.

 

[There Is Light At The End]

In this society, the norm of masculinity is phallic aggression. Male sexuality is, by definition, intensely and rigidly phallic. A man's identity is located in his conception of himself as the possessor of a phallus; a man's worth is located in his pride in phallic identity. The main characteristic of phallic identity is that worth is entirely contingent on the possession of a phallus. Since men have no other criteria for worth, no other notion of identity, those who do not have phalluses are not recognized as fully human."
― Andrea Dworkin

This reads like one of those thinly veiled cries about good dicking.

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

The main big difference imo is that hard feminists (that quite frankly embarrass the rest of us)

I don't know how old I was when GI Jane came out, but I definitely remember thinking: 'Fuck you, whomever made this, I don't want to be drafted'.

 

[Gay Baby Jailer]

This reads like one of those thinly veiled cries about good dicking.

Universities pay women hundreds of thousands of dollars to write this slop about how angry they are at men all day every day. But men are the ones in charge ruining everything.......like the ones who put these women in power

 

[There Is Light At The End]

I don't know how old I was when GI Jane came out, but I definitely remember thinking: 'Fuck you, whomever made this, I don't want to be drafted'.

It was one of precursors of modern gurlboss, yass slay qween type of stuff

 

[There Is Light At The End]

Universities pay women hundreds of thousands of dollars to write this slop about how angry they are at men all day every day. But men are the ones in charge ruining everything.......like the ones who put these women in power

double post, but, whatever.
No man talks about his penis and others' men penises, if he isn't a three things - 1) he's a urologist or venereologist and it's his working hours, 2) he's a flaming cocksucking faggot, 3) it's a dick joke

 

[r9k-speaks]

"In this society, the norm of masculinity is phallic aggression. Male sexuality is, by definition, intensely and rigidly phallic. A man's identity is located in his conception of himself as the possessor of a phallus; a man's worth is located in his pride in phallic identity. The main characteristic of phallic identity is that worth is entirely contingent on the possession of a phallus. Since men have no other criteria for worth, no other notion of identity, those who do not have phalluses are not recognized as fully human."
― Andrea Dworkin

Does that mean all the guys on welfare must have giant dicks? I mean they don't have to work... they have giant dicks.

 

[Spud]

this isn’t the Cell games I was expecting.

You missed it, some blonde kid wiped the floor with him after the other blonde guy gave up.

 

[Stan]

There is some degree of inherent subtlety and sneakiness to women, maybe even an evolutionary adaptation to male power and having to stay in the shadows, and express yourself in ways that do not provoke violence.

You are kind of almost getting it. What Dworkin is saying is that men have socially enslaved women and culturally suppressed them.

In general, that male violent response is a failure in itself; it's a tacit admission of losing your temper, likely having lost the argument.
A smart male is able to punish a woman far more harshly through pure emotional manipulation. There is never a need to lay your hands on women.

Testosterone must be one helluva drug eh?

Maybe not directly. By watching society. Feminism and Marxism appeal to Women because it represents alot of what they like. Conflict avoidance, Conformity, Fairness, etc.

So it's oppressive to have manners when you're on a date? Are you guys really this butthurt about the chairs and doors thing? Cause you don't have to do it if you don't want to.

But when Women with these agendas get into power in real life, you see people getting cut off at the knees, sometimes at the hips. To drag everyone down to equity. Even speech becomes policed in order to offend anyone.

Like I was telling AP: I can find plenty of examples of feminists whose speech was suppressed by men, their work belittled and their names and faces used as bywords for the F-word. I can find distinctly fewer examples of men so henpecked and cucked they feel helpless in the thrall of Big Feminism.

You end up with drop in competency, lack of innovation, lack of competition, lack of excellence. Everyone gets dumbed down to the same level. Societial morals erode, because all sexualities and fetishes are valid.

Ah yes, women = corruption and a slumping towards the normal, and you believe men strive for the exceptional etc. Well we got one exceptional guy in the thread at least, you

Why are you so sure women are responsible for the degen fetishist coomer industrial complex? Wouldn’t it make more sense that men would be pornographers, since men are the ones with that feral sexuality who can’t help themselves once their dicks get hard?

Which I suppose for people in power would be very convenient. To have a population of feral morons to direct at will through social media. Which is probably why they push such political messages.

That you think it’s only the left courting the feral moron vote is pretty shortsighted of you when it’s clear DJT is absolutely relying on feral morons to be his base.

Probably one of the first things I would do if I had power is to impose some severe restrictions on all sorcery-type of shit and institutionalize all these fucks.

Well I know what I'm getting purged for

I have no interest in posting there. What matters is that you've been given an exception, and that means something.

Yes, exactly. It's not the conversation in there; its that Null is giving the female users a platform at all.
Men are afraid of what women might say to each other if they spoke freely.

Now... this is why you guys get hate. As i said, both of you are being gay and petty about this. Its fucking annoying. Just because im more often annoyed at the men doesn't mean I don't see the petty sniping happening. All of this is so retarded.

On one hand we have women who want to mildly criticize those specimens of your gender who won’t wash their ass or brush their teeth, and on the other the men are seething because they can’t force someone to date their unwashed asses. I do not think both sides are equally in the wrong; we are not the same.

I believe this one was started by Stan, I’m from Q&A and fishtank I just enjoy shitting up the drama. I could really give a wet fart except when it bleeds over to other places.

Your cool homie

We already know Women don't want us. So why should we bother still trying to impress them?

I Think your psychologist would call this self-defeating behavior.

I suppose that's why when I ran into drug dealers., they always had immaculate clean all name brand stuff on. Can't let the girls know you're actually living from drug deal to drug deal and the cops could raid you any second now. They spent every second day bleaching their white shoes to make sure there was no dirt whatsoever on them.

Aha, counterpoint: I met a dealer in NC whose main hobbies were ferrets, freebasing, and pretending not to notice the bedbugs crawling out of his futon. There are some spiffy dealers I’m sure but to the extent dealers are also addicts they can be pretty rough looking.

 

[r9k-speaks]

Ah yes, women = corruption and a slumping towards the normal, and you believe men strive for the exceptional etc. Well we got one exceptional guy in the thread at least, you

Why are you so sure women are responsible for the degen fetishist coomer industrial complex? Wouldn’t it make more sense that men would be pornographers, since men are the ones with that feral sexuality who can’t help themselves once their dicks get hard?

This isn't meant to particularly be an attack on Women, but that Feminist/Marxist policies, are favored by Women. Because on the surface they look fair, everyones a winner, balanced. But real life isn't like that. Life isn't fair. There has to be winners and losers, there has to be competition where a superior design or theory comes out on top. Otherwise theres only stagnation and erosion. If you want to be fair, every sexuality is valuable, and you should allow your 6 year old to date the 25 year old, it's only fair.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

Yes, exactly. It's not the conversation in there; its that Null is giving the female users a platform at all.
Men are afraid of what women might say to each other if they spoke freely.

dude, when you guys get together you talk about crystal healing, star charts, and artificially propped-up pop stars; what the fuck are we going to be afraid of? Modern witch LARPing?

I don't actually oppose the thread, I'm actually glad null has it locked down, it's a great containment zone to keep away female crazy and keep it confined to a single space. I think null made the right choice--I just think the things you guys post in there are so much CRINGE that I can't even browse the thread to laugh because it's literally browsing reddit.

You say the exact same things as a 2XChromosomes user.

You women will impress me more when, when groups of you get together, you start performing science and utilitarian projects like men, and not decide upon stupid fucking superstitions. Because women are not equal when it comes to science. Your sex is plagued with bizarre spiritualist beliefs.

The fact is most of the women here bitch and moan because they're damaged and men who don't know any better listen to women lie and bitch about people not taking care of them. If a man bitched like you do everyday here Stan everyone would laugh at him and call him a loser, but since whining is part of women's known nature people approach you with a natural handicap. You'll never be equal to a man because you aren't cut out for it.

Everyone on KF wants to ignore it, but the trans phenomenon is being spurred on by women, and they are encouraging the tranny men to do these things. We all know women and we all know how women want to "nurture" these "men," and it's disgusting, and it's ridiculous women get off the hook despite them doing two things-- one, women have taken away men's spaces, because sexism is when men try to get away from women's infernal nagging, and two, they have invited trannies into their spaces. So you can't have an organization that is men's only, and where women go, trannies are soon to follow because women love keeping them as pets.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

You are kind of almost getting it. What Dworkin is saying is that men have socially enslaved women and culturally suppressed them.

Dworkin’s perspective was pure asshurt because she was absolutely repulsive. What kind of retardation is it to think that this slob ever experienced the kind of things she wrote about?

I can find distinctly fewer examples of men so henpecked and cucked they feel helpless in the thrall of Big Feminism.

Because you look for them where?

Why are you so sure women are responsible for the degen fetishist coomer industrial complex? Wouldn’t it make more sense that men would be pornographers, since men are the ones with that feral sexuality who can’t help themselves once their dicks get hard?

So do you think every chick with an only fans has a male manager? Self produced is the form of the industry.

And “feral sexuality,” lol. Like just because women don’t have obtrusive erections, they’re totally sane when they’re horny? Maybe if you saw a therapist you could get some insight into yourself and identify times that you acted like a total psychopath because you weren’t getting any. I think women are much worse than men overall in that regard, like “drive the kids off a bridge in the station wagon” worse

 

[Gay Baby Jailer]

Yes, exactly. It's not the conversation in there; its that Null is giving the female users a platform at all.
Men are afraid of what women might say to each other if they spoke freely.

You have whole paid departments in universities run by women for women to carve out spaces where women can say whatever the fuck they want. You have some kind of disconnect from reality for some reason, I don't really get it.
and I can already see the cope
"BUT THOSE SPACES WERE TAKEN OVER BY TRANNIES"
if women run spaces get taken over by trannies whose fault is that?

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

So do you think every chick with an only fans has a male manager? Self produced is the form of the industry.

That's why you can't win against these people. This shit comes down to matters of interpretation, and with that the sky's the limit. Sexuality can either be liberating or oppressive depending entirely on how they frame it and what their agenda is. And they'll frame the exact same shit in different ways in different courses of an argument to fuck with you and to dishonestly win. You can't win against a constantly moving target, man.

if women run spaces get taken over by trannies whose fault is that?

For real, these women practically kicked men out of their own spaces but can't remove trannies? They invited them in and pretend otherwise. We know sure as shit men aren't inviting trannies into their spaces.

 

[WelperHelper99]

On one hand we have women who want to mildly criticize those specimens of your gender who won’t wash their ass or brush their teeth, and on the other the men are seething because they can’t force someone to date their unwashed asses. I do not think both sides are equally in the wrong; we are not the same

All I am saying is I see sniping on both ends. The guys do it more. A lot more. But it does happen on your side too.

I won't even deny some men are like you describe. That's not nearly all of them. Maybe a lot of retards on this site, but not so much IRL. I'm trying to be as neutral as possible here.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

Just a reminder that "female ways of knowing" according to women themselves is intuition and many female groups have explicitly rejected empiricism as a "masculine" epistemology, I shit you not. Why take women seriously when that's their POV?

 

[Stan]

Here is a tip. If we are not/going to fuck a woman we don't give a fuck about what they Say. Except for that faggot who wrote how his totally rad gardening friend cucked him fucking lmao

God I wish this was so, but the men’s reaction to the man hate thread says otherwise. Men get super fucking touchy about women gathering to speak amongst themselves, especially if they’re going to say anything less than kind about men.

Do you hate all men?

No, I have a dad and a husband.

Point being- labeling an entire sex of thinking one way is retarded, and damaging long term. A better question to ask is why you would think this way at all, unless you do something similar?

I ask because I’ve read how you guys talk about women and it doesn’t seem like you would like them even if they were totally subservient and organized their lives around male needs. I’ve heard how men talk about fucking women and it’s disgusting.

Dworkin’s perspective was pure asshurt because she was absolutely repulsive. What kind of retardation is it to think that this slob ever experienced the kind of things she wrote about?

Dworkin was repeatedly raped in her 20’s by an abusive Dutch boyfriend. She was also verifiably pretty-much-raped during an arrest (she was arrested for her part in a protest) when she was in college: the policemen booking her forced her to submit to an internal examination so rough that Dworkin bled for several days afterward.

So yes, despite the way she looked in her 40’s Dworkin did have some experience with being treated like a sex object, not to mention that being hated by men for failing to meet their beauty standard still gets you much the same treatment as meeting it, except the men are more openly hostile instead of trying to lure into a room alone w them.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

Dworkin was repeatedly raped in her 20’s by an abusive Dutch boyfriend. She was also verifiably pretty-much-raped during an arrest (she was arrested for her part in a protest) when she was in college: the policemen booking her forced her to submit to an internal examination so rough that Dworkin bled for several days afterward

Is there a case number for any of that? It sounds like feminist mythos. Here’s hot, young Dworkin for reference, at a time in America where being overweight was unusual enough that it had to be addressed when encountered

Edit: I mean like, if a character on a sitcom was fat, it would be reference and made into a front and center thing. There would be entire episodes about the fat character asking “why are they fat?” and concluding it was a moral defect.

I don’t think Dworkin got asked to prom


Edit edit: here’s an older pic of Dworkin admiring some patriarchy (unless you can tell me how many women worked as masons in the Middle Ages)

Still fat and pointedly Shrek-like. She was born in 1946 and this pic is from Crete in 1966, so she was still gross at 20 years of age and also very privileged

 

[KittyGremlin]

Yes, exactly. It's not the conversation in there; its that Null is giving the female users a platform at all.
Men are afraid of what women might say to each other if they spoke freely.

Well that's complete lunacy but ok. Any man with more than five brain cells to rub knows women generally talk more to each other than us either way, and assuming otherwise is stupid. To me, this isn't "talking" about some kind of obscured "truth" but a common engagement in a shared delusion, not too dissimilar to TRP shit. In turn, that gives you the false authority of speaking in the name of all women and any who choose to disagree get labelled as pick-me's, a man in disguise, or just not "awake" enough.

I mean, let's set aside the random pink triangle incel who stumbles upon the thread, vomits some verbal diarrhea and promptly gets banned due to being a minor. We've seen this story again and again and again. Half the communities covered on the website have a cult mentality like this. To any other user here it's just the same old shit... But this time endorsed by Null for some reason. I guess it hits his childhood trauma in all the right places or something.

But OK, you're probably not reading this so here's my TL;DR: You're not special, grow the fuck up.

 

[WENDY DENG 2020]

LOL, there are inherent differences between the sexes.

How we approach problems and ways of thought.

I think logically and without emotional responses driving it. I am not a typical female and hate the female hive mind. The bitchiness and catty behavior. Tearing other women down. Especially, if you are attractive and not a fat hobgoblin.

We ARE own worst enemy. Not men.