Do Men Even Like Women?

Whatever shade you think you are getting from the ladies because you're not 6 feet tall, I promise you it is nothing compared to the explicit, unkind comments fat women get about their appearance.
You can always lose weight and become skinny. You cannot become taller. I don't care how unkind the comments are. It's something you can and should change.

Also, no they're not more explicit. Short men are literally told they should never be born and should be genocided. You can't get much worse than that.

Also, there's no point in trying to pretend you care about fat women's health
You're right. I don't.

You think women owe it to you to be skinny, they do not
If you want the wedding ring, yes you do. If your stomach extends further than your breasts, you will not get one. Most men will tolerate up until that point.

If you look like a death fat, expect no ring except from fetishists. So either lose weight or learn to accept that.
 
Psychology and psychiatry are already highly sus IMO, and their best use is isolating dissidents in a more neutral way, without novichoking them.
It is an immature field, imo, but it's better than it used to be. Psychiatry can make a lot of people's lives a lot better and more productive because they're not schizo/suicidal/delusional. But yeah I agree it's difficult to be cycling on and off meds before you find one that helps, and it's hard to be mentally ill and also able to advocate for yourself properly.
Our commie regime did some things right for sure.
See, I'd knew we'd find something to agree on.
 
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Whatever shade you think you are getting from the ladies because you're not 6 feet tall, I promise you it is nothing compared to the explicit, unkind comments fat women get about their appearance.

Also, there's no point in trying to pretend you care about fat women's health when you've already made it so clear that this is about your boner and your sexual pleasure. You think women owe it to you to be skinny, they do not.
I’m 6’ 2” and happily married.

My dad died early because of complications with type 2 diabetes and never got to meet my kids. This is a profound emotional wound I live with. It’s wrong of you to assume that when I’m matching tone with someone who’s overtly talking shit, that all my motivations are negative

My wife and i both dislike Emory Tate because he encourages young men to dehumanize women.

My wife and I both dislike Andrea Dworkin because her work encouraged young women to dehumanize men
 
"Loserish" is a pretty subjective term, and I get the sense a lot of incels are very normal looking guys who think they are ugly and they isolate themselves with a defeatist attitude and a lot of pent-up resentment.

Yes. Which why you see some Women go for Bodybuilders, it's a demonstration of competence. Conversely, some Women will gravitate towards serial killers, because even that demonstrates competence.

But then again theres some subjective talk between Men over whats physically attractive too. So I don't see it too different.

If women treated bald men the way men treat fat women (making unsubtle hints that he should go to hair restoration, gifts of Rogaine, hair supplements, etc.) I'm sure you'd have no problem seeing why that would be unkind and ineffective.

But Women won't treat Men that way, because typically that's not what they are looking for, they are looking for a capable Man that provide her and her children (biologically speaking)

Being fat isn't even that out of your control. It's not like me saying "tfw when not a billionaire with supermodel g/f"
 
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It is an immature field, imo, but it's better than it used to be. Psychiatry can make a lot of people's lives a lot better and more productive because they're not schizo/suicidal/delusional. But yeah I agree it's difficult to be cycling on and off meds before you find one that helps, and it's hard to be mentally ill and also able to advocate for yourself properly.
It's not an immature field. It's just pozzed by the government. Anything that isn't pozzed by the government is relegated to pill popping. The real psychiatry is only allowed to be done by the government and the result is the mind virus you see today.
 
You can always lose weight and become skinny. You cannot become taller. I don't care how unkind the comments are. It's something you can and should change.
That's why I used the bald example. A bald man can become unbald: he can put on a wig, or get hair restoration, or apply rogaine or whatnot.
Also, no they're not more explicit. Short men are literally told they should never be born and should be genocided. You can't get much worse than that.
Haha where fool, where?
Are you a leprechaun? Can you really not find some short girls to cruise on?

If you want the wedding ring, yes you do. If your stomach extends further than your breasts, you will not get one. Most men will tolerate up until that point.

If you look like a death fat, expect no ring except from fetishists. So either lose weight or learn to accept that.
... I got the wedding ring.

And the obesity epidemic is hardly restricted to women. I don't think a fat guy who has any authority to demand the women he dates be skinny.

The women that post here feel like for the most part that they would have great difficulty moving when not submerged in salt water etc.
I get what you're trying to say here, but it's painfully stupid.

But Women won't treat Men that way, because typically that's not what they are looking for, they are looking for a capable Man that provide her and her children (biologically speaking)

Being fat isn't even that out of your control. It's not like me saying "tfw when not a billionaire with supermodel g/f"
No hair on the head, no pussy in the bed. #neverbaldies
 
No hair on the head, no pussy in the bed. #neverbaldies

It seems provided the Man has enough resources, the Woman is willing to overlook.

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And the obesity epidemic is hardly restricted to women. I don't think a fat guy who has any authority to demand the women he dates be skinny.
It’s lacking obvious reciprocity, but the thing is it isn’t a DEMAND per se.

Who in society is asked to initiate relationships with people they aren’t attracted to? And I agree with the hypothetical incel I assume you’d bring up. Too bad, it’s isn’t fair, attraction should be mutual but can’t be identical

Everyone has different attractions, and if you plotted out prioritized lists like a vein diagram, you’d see that there was some overlap but separate centers for men and women’s clusters.

Starting to think this women-only-want-tall-men thing is a call coming from inside the house.
Height is a top three criteria for women. Depth of voice is another. Men generally don’t care how tall a woman is or how deep her voice is. We are more visually aroused. That relates to our position as de facto fighters/defenders and exist today as a compulsory behavior to visually scan our environment. That even relates to the forever meme of men scanning women’s bodies.
 
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That's why I used the bald example. A bald man can become unbald: he can put on a wig, or get hair restoration, or apply rogaine or whatnot.
Those aren't equivalent at all. Wigs typically are too fake and give it away. Hair restoration is an expensive surgery. Rogaine doesn't work. Point is, it's difficult compared to simply changing your diet and running. There really isn't a male equivalent for what you're looking for. Heck, even being a fat man isn't equivalent. Women date way more fat men than vice versa. Maybe unemployed men is a better equivalent? I think that's the closest you can get.

Haha where fool, where?
Are you a leprechaun? Can you really not find some short girls to cruise on?
You're literally calling me a leprechaun as an insult and then asking me where do women make fun of short men. Women rag on short men. Men rag on short men. Hell, the guy who made up the Napoleon Complex made his "study" JUST to rag on short men.

... I got the wedding ring
You're not a death fat. We've seen multiple of your dox's. You were also pregnant.

Unless you weren't pregnant.....

And the obesity epidemic is hardly restricted to women. I don't think a fat guy who has any authority to demand the women he dates be skinny.
More women seem to be okay with marrying a fat guy than vice versa. Men don't seem to like dating fat women. Sleeping with them? Absolutely. They're viewed as easy pickings for slow nights. Dating and bringing them around making them wives? Nope.
 
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Height is a top three criteria for women. Depth of voice is another. Men generally don’t care how tall a woman is or how deep her voice is. We are more visually aroused. That relates to our position as de facto fighters/defenders and exist today as a compulsory behavior to visually scan our environment. That even relates to the forever meme of men scanning women’s bodies.

But they found statistically, height and depth of voice does increase career success. I'm guessing it's a subconscious projection of authority. So even those Female criteria seem to have some mate competence basis.
 
men and women should take care of their appearance
nothing is less attractive than someone who acts impulsively and lets themselves fall into disarray

Give me a break I've been working 100 hours a week so you can by all that Louie Vuitton crap.
 
Those aren't equivalent at all. Wigs typically are too fake and give it away. Hair restoration is an expensive surgery. Rogaine doesn't work. Point is, it's difficult compared to simply changing your diet and running.
I don't think it's necessarily easier for a deathfat to lose 300+ lbs than it is for a guy to get expensive hair restoration surgeries, but that's a difference of opinion.
There really isn't a male equivalent for what you're looking for. Heck, even being a fat man isn't equivalent.
I'm wondering if you see the double standard here... women are relentlessly shamed for being fat and in public, but the men get a pass. This is because women treat men like people, and men treat women like animals.
 
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But they found statistically, height and depth of voice does increase career success. I'm guessing it's a subconscious projection of authority. So even those Female criteria seem to have some mate competence basis.
Fair hypothesis. I think “provider” is more important than “leader” in the aggregate though
men and women should take care of their appearance
nothing is less attractive than someone who acts impulsively and lets themselves fall into disarray
Even if it were less impactful than visa versa, it would still be hugely like, checked out, disrespectful, etc if I “let my myself go” and portrayed the issue as my wife’s problem to deal with what she’s attracted to. I’d be the one changing the status quo
 
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men and women should take care of their appearance
nothing is less attractive than someone who acts impulsively and lets themselves fall into disarray
When did taking care of yourself become a bad thing? Not even saying you need to do anything crazy, but good lord, don't get yourself to the point you're having health issues.
 
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