Brianna Wu / John Walker Flynt - "Biggest Victim of Gamergate," Failed Game Developer, Failed Congressional Candidate

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the only reason that Revolution 60 wasn't essentially Socially Unconscious in space was because Amanda Winn-Lee and Carolyn Vaneseltine forced massive re-writes.
Hold on a sec, I just noticed this. Amanda Winn-Lee? The voice actress forced a rewrite? Did she straight-up refuse to read John's abysmal dialogue unless there was a rewrite? :lol:
 
Most refused comment, rightfully wanting nothing to do with her.

One, however, speaking under condition of anonymity,

I don't blame them. If Wu found out they exposed her for being a lazy cunt and taking the credit for all the work, she'd start standing outside their bedroom windows and snarl at them all night.
 
Hold on a sec, I just noticed this. Amanda Winn-Lee? The voice actress forced a rewrite? Did she straight-up refuse to read John's abysmal dialogue unless there was a rewrite? :lol:
Would you blame her if she did?

Imagine coming into a gig and meeting this bizarre subhuman mistake who keeps sperging about how much they admire your work, how they share your struggles as a fellow woman (weird but whatever), and that you were exactly the voice they had in mind for this character. Then, you read the script. It's a fucking mess seemingly written as one prolonged train of thought and the character that was "made to be played by you" is a drunk skank who acts like a catty bitch to everyone around her. You're probably about to storm off before reciting the first "what's crack-a-lackin?" but the unhinged goblinoid starts begging and pleading to not leave, that she can give you more money. You say no money in the world is worth being associated with this trite, which causes the strange being to start shouting incoherently about men, sisterhood, their dreams, how important this is, and chucking expensive electronics across the room. A beleaguered Asian man then approaches you, apologizes profusely, and says they can put together something more agreeable in about a month. You hesitantly agree, but only if it's not complete drivel and if you get the extra money. He agrees and you leave, silently praying that revised script never comes.
 
Yeah, because you NEVER talk down to people, do you Wu?

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I don't know! Let me open up Wikipedia to check! Seriously, the fact that you can check the internet anytime and everywhere has made questions like "what is the difference between A and B" obsolete.
I'm sure the huge list of close friends you speak to on a regular basis will be devastated.

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We need a new poll for November:

How will Brianna Wu's new voice sound?
  • Fran Dresher
  • Chris Tucker
  • Skeletor
  • alternatively: Orko
  • Cobra Commander / Starscream
  • Beaker (Muppets)
 
I don't know! Let me open up Wikipedia to check! Seriously, the fact that you can check the internet anytime and everywhere has made questions like "what is the difference between A and B" obsolete.

We need a new poll for November:

How will Brianna Wu's new voice sound?
  • Fran Dresher
  • Chris Tucker
  • Skeletor
  • alternatively: Orko
  • Cobra Commander / Starscream
  • Beaker (Muppets)

Can we add Carol Channing
 
I actually contacted a few of John's former associates business-wise for the Wu Article.

Most refused comment, rightfully wanting nothing to do with her.

One, however, speaking under condition of anonymity, essentially established that the only reason that Revolution 60 wasn't essentially Socially Unconscious in space was because Amanda Winn-Lee and Carolyn Vaneseltine forced massive re-writes. It's frankly a miracle the game is as good as it is given Wu's involvement. She dragged the whole project down.

So it would just be bimbos in space college?


Has any game ever failed this badly with this level of advertising?

Hold on a sec, I just noticed this. Amanda Winn-Lee? The voice actress forced a rewrite? Did she straight-up refuse to read John's abysmal dialogue unless there was a rewrite? :lol:

Amanda Winn Lee is not only a voice actress, her and her husband owned a company that translated anime into English, so she did a lot of script writing and production. She worked on the Evangelion dubs besides playing Rei.

They had a kid who was disabled in the early 2000s, so they both had to quit to take care of her. They're back in the business now that she's older.
 
Someone should go bug Brianna in releasing the original drafts. Put it in the second revision Lethal Logoglossolia or whatever that stupid e-book is called. I want to see how bad the original was that the voice of Yukiko tried to fix it.
 
Amanda Winn Lee is not only a voice actress, her and her husband owned a company that translated anime into English, so she did a lot of script writing and production. She worked on the Evangelion dubs besides playing Rei.
True, but it doesn't seem like she did any work as a writer on this particular project - or at least none she got credited for. I took a look through the credits on Youtube, however, and there is this:

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So yes, it looks like she essentially did demand (and get) a rewrite XD
 
Why wouldn't they be? She's rich, unspeakably petty, and has nothing better to do than ruin anyone who pisses her off sufficiently. And you can't even retaliate in kind, because she doesn't have a job or any real social standing you can take away.
Murder Frank and she has nothing.
 
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Did Wu do the re-writes because it seems like she almost doesn't understand the plot herself. Like she was writing the plot as an afterthought and the true goal was to just reach specific scenes. The story feels like it takes a back seat over snarky dialogue and action scenes.

According to source, what happened was actually a bit of unusual action for Wu, in that she realized she was completely out of her depth. Wu herself, like many writers who aren't very well-read, thinks her work is good quality, but really didn't have the ability to see past its own shortcomings. Winn-Lee, realizing that this project was going to be about as effective as grease on fire otherwise, offered to act as a consultant for doing the characterization for the various characters pro-bono, which Wu readily agreed to at Frank's behest.

At around this time, the original concept of Rev60, which purportedly much more closely resembled Mass Effect, was thrown to the paper shredder by Carolyn Vaneseltine at Frank Wu's request. Carolyn basically wrote Revolution 60's overarching world (which is why it's actually interesting and not complete shit), which helped set up the parts of story that Winn-Lee purportedly liked a lot, and giving Winn-Lee and Vaneseltine the chance to flex their muscles and make the setting coherent. The original concept, according to source, was that Holiday would be fresh out of some sort of academy and having madcap space adventures.

Almost every design choice in this work that sounds fucking retarded came from Wu. Geishabots? You bet. Insistence on Holiday having a motorcycle? Yep. Winn-Lee had to act as a check and a balance against Wu's crazy on a few occasions. Purportedly one of the biggest conflicts happened over Minuete's appearance. Winn-Lee wanted something more appropriate to the setting and Wu was fucking adamant.

Hold on a sec, I just noticed this. Amanda Winn-Lee? The voice actress forced a rewrite? Did she straight-up refuse to read John's abysmal dialogue unless there was a rewrite? :lol:

Bingo. Winn-Lee is a competent writer and refused to do line-reads unless Wu agreed to her demands. Because she was the single most-important person on the project as far as star power goes, Frank forced Brianna to swallow her pride and allow Winn-Lee to get to work making the entire project suck less.

So had Frank and everyone BUT Wu had full control from day one, we likely would have gotten something cliche and kinda crappy, but with just enough charm to justify a possible sequel.

Worst part is that you can tell exactly where someone with a brain was doing the writing: just subtract all the parts that were lifted from John's shitty fanfiction.

In fact, I'll put down money the actually decent writing where the Mary Sues were revealed to be idiots helping the real villain and the Chinese guys were the heroes all along must have be something John fought hard against. I'll also bet the parts where Crimson 09 was given something resembling a justifiable reason to be resentful (being forced to do piddly BS like check on soybean futures) must have been fought against as well, since in the original source all the ladies were just catty backstabbing bitches because that's how John sees women in his fantasy world, but in the plot twist he must have hated, you can actually develop an odd bit of sympathy because she has something resembling a decent motive for going backstabber.

Holiday was basically rewritten into what she is in Rev60 (and is one of the better characters in it) by Vaneseltine. The original concept was for her to be the same whimsical borderline Mary Sue she was in SOCCON. Interestingly, however, Wu really liked the re-writes. It's proof that Wu isn't necessarily the worst writer ever by design, just that she's poorly read and inexperienced at age forty.

One reason that Valentina dies is because she's not a character that Wu wrote. She's basically the transposed version of Lani Cameron from Socially Unconscious; a shit-upon everywoman who enters an unbelievable situation by happenstance. Winn-Lee wanted at least one main character death to drive home the prospect of consequences, and Unknown was the first one on the chopping block.

This entire shebang is why I feel that Revolution 60 needs a bit more analysis and love than it otherwise gets. Yes, it's terrible, and yes, it's mockable, but the fact that it even works is because so many people not Brianna Wu fought tooth and claw to make it happen.
 
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that this is the true tale of R60's genesis, because it's hilarious. I'm just having a tough time imagining which one of Wu's inner circle turned Judas and spilled all this info.

I'd get into hinting at who, but Wu would spare nothing at hunting them down over it.

As for Wu professionally? I've met people IRL who've had close encounters of the Wu kind and most of them have flat-out said they don't even want to be sourced anonymously. Wu has a fucking hell of a reputation in the industry as someone who will gun for your fucking career if you make them look like an idiot at a con or something.
 
Bingo. Winn-Lee is a competent writer and refused to do line-reads unless Wu agreed to her demands. Because she was the single most-important person on the project as far as star power goes, Frank forced Brianna to swallow her pride and allow Winn-Lee to get to work making the entire project suck less.
So in other words, Brianna is just a huge dick who stiffed at least one of her collaborators out of a writing credit.
 
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