Do Men Even Like Women?

Badungus Kabungus said:
Straight talk, why do westerners love eating ass so much? It's unironically the one thing I don't understand about western culture.

Is it like, a black thing?
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Of course, but it's also just a decadent society thing. It's no surprise that you have the same kind of thing with oil sheiks flying in women for that kind of thing. Mcafee when he was living like a maffia king was also into similar and worse.

It isn't as bad as what the real elites/black nobility are into, it's more of a nouveau riche thing.

Sailor Troon said:
The Woman-Hate Thread tends to have about 100 more pages than the Man-Hate Thread, despite being created after the MHT and as a reaction to the MHT. I think that's very telling.
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Part of me wishes that the man hate thread gets locked and any new one gets prevented. Hear me out. Not threads that are tangentially related like this one. Not the neverending parade of threads why women shouldn't have the right to vote. Just the woman hate thread.

Because we could be harvesting the tears for years.
 
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Stan said:
So basically, the first prompt says women have to tailor their message, their bodies, and their attitude so men felt secure in their ability to control their women.
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This has nothing to do with being a woman and everything to do with being physically weaker. Weak men also have to tailor their message, their bodies, and their attitudes so that men feel secure in their ability to control the situation. As an example, gay men don't admit to being gay around men who will kill or beat them for it. They won't dress gay, they won't behave like they're gay in public. They won't admit to having a husband around these men. They will usually lie and pretend to be straight to put said men at ease. You are assuming sexism where it doesn't exist.

Stan said:
And that when women are allowed to talk about or write whatever they want about men, men hustle to get them to shut up because it makes them feel out of control.
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No. Men are hard-wired to approach conflict directly. When you're talking about or writing disrespectful and hostile things, men are going to address it directly. It has nothing to do with feeling "out of control," men don't think that way. Men are expected to solve their own problems and fight their own battles.

And for the record, women are just as dangerous and aggressive as men, they just don't work directly. If a woman wants her ex hurt, she can imply to another interested male that she was abused and often said male will deliver the beating she wanted. This also works if she has brothers/a protective father. When women bully, they attack their victims reputation to turn everyone against the victim. They get other people to do the actual bullying and keep the illusion of being helpless intact.
 
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Netizennameless said:
This has nothing to do with being a woman and everything to do with being physically weaker. Weak men also have to tailor their message, their bodies, and their attitudes so that men feel secure in their ability to control the situation. As an example, gay men don't admit to being gay around men who will kill or beat them for it. They won't dress gay, they won't behave like they're gay in public. They won't admit to having a husband around these men. They will usually lie and pretend to be straight to put said men at ease. You are assuming sexism where it doesn't exist.


No. Men are hard-wired to approach conflict directly. When you're talking about or writing disrespectful and hostile things, men are going to address it directly. It has nothing to do with feeling "out of control," men don't think that way. Men are expected to solve their own problems and fight their own battles.

And for the record, women are just as dangerous and aggressive as men, they just don't work directly. If a woman wants her ex hurt, she can imply to another interested male that she was abused and often said male will deliver the beating she wanted. This also works if she has brothers/a protective father. When women bully, they attack their victims reputation to turn everyone against the victim. They get other people to do the actual bullying and keep the illusion of being helpless intact.
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I can't remember if Mattress girl even dated or had sex with the guy she accused. But he was still ruined by the entire thing. And shes still fine. Even after being outed as a liar.
 
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The zoomers are all going to be gay and brown because the seed of the west are too busy being incels/femcels on gossip websites
 
Didn't read the OP before (because I knew it'd be retarded, which it is) but I'll address it anyway just for shits and giggles:

Dworkin was an insufferable smelly landwhale and if you take anything she wrote seriously that's just sad on your part. Feminism is just another type of grievance politics and clinging to such things in pursuit of some illusory crumb of "empowerment" only makes people miserable at the end of the day. If you tie yourself into knots trying to fight imaginary wars against half of the population you're only going to end up being a rotten sack of shit. Sorry, but dem's the breaks, gorl.
 
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Stan said:
Men of the Farms: can you prove Andrea wrong?
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no proof is possible because this is hardly an objective topic. no proof is necessary because Andrea Dworkin is a melodramatic retard who talks like all women exist as cotton-picking plantation slave niggers forced to toil for the pleasure of men.

“Men often react to women’s words—speaking and writing—as if they were acts of violence; sometimes men react to women’s words with violence. So we lower our voices. Women whisper. Women apologize. Women shut up. Women trivialize what we know. Women shrink. Women pull back. Most women have experienced enough dominance from men—control, violence, insult, contempt—that no threat seems empty.”
― Andrea Dworkin, Intercourse
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the social dynamic is frayed in both directions. but in my anecdotal experience, just about every woman I've ever had the displeasure of having extended contact with, in both personal and professional contexts, has been highly aggressive and/or passive-aggressive without provocation. perhaps there's some larger, unseen, personal reason these women came into my life with a chip on their shoulder. I don't fucking care. I do not punish others for my own personal hangups, and that's a courtesy women rarely offer me in return.

“Being female in this world means having been robbed of the potential for human choice by men who love to hate us. One does does not make choices in freedom. Instead, one conforms in body type and behavior and values to become an object of male sexual desire, which requires an abandonment of a wide-ranging capacity for choice...

Men too make choices. When will they choose not to despise us?”
― Andrea Dworkin, Intercourse
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beauty standards exist for everyone. ask any guy around five and a half feet tall how he tends to be treated by the women in his life. not every man experiences height discrimination, but it's more prevalent than not. and if you think female beauty standards are more strictly required to be functional in society, bullshit. this is anecdata again, but I've worked with countless plain women who dress casually and don't wear makeup. in fact, all the women I've worked with are notably subjected to considerably laxer standards than their male colleagues, and routinely allowed to fail tasks that are fundamental to their job as long as somebody else (a man) can clean it up for them.

this is overwhelmingly my experience with women in my own life. they very easily lend themselves to vindictiveness, even apropos of nothing, especially in situations caused by their own shortcomings. they don't take responsibility for their failings and are demonstrably dumber and more immature compared to their male counterparts. that's not to say that all women are like this - in fact, I do know a number of very respectable women who easily meet and exceed the standard set for men. however, they are far in the minority. I do not believe this kind of unpleasantness and incompetence is something that is intrinsic to the female gender. no woman is guaranteed to be a stupid asshole at birth. but our culture is far too happy to coddle them and hand them big, dramatic excuses for being useless shitheads. thus, the average normie woman, lacking much initiative, direction, or personality of their own, is pretty likely to absorb the general cultural attitude of being a stupid bitch with an entitlement mindset.
 
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“Men often react to women’s words—speaking and writing—as if they were acts of violence; sometimes men react to women’s words with violence. So we lower our voices. Women whisper. Women apologize. Women shut up. Women trivialize what we know. Women shrink. Women pull back. Most women have experienced enough dominance from men—control, violence, insult, contempt—that no threat seems empty.”

Yes, women are well known for shutting up and not relentlessly pursuing conflict.

“Being female in this world means having been robbed of the potential for human choice by men who love to hate us. One does does not make choices in freedom. Instead, one conforms in body type and behavior and values to become an object of male sexual desire, which requires an abandonment of a wide-ranging capacity for choice...

Men too make choices. When will they choose not to despise us?”

Why do women talk about beauty standards as if men don't have the most merciful standards for beauty? Show me a fat black woman with a bad attitude and I will show you 80 men asking her out on a date. I do not give a solitary fuck about any grievances women have regarding how their looks are perceived.
 
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SwanSwanson said:
Why do women talk about beauty standards as if men don't have the most merciful standards for beauty? Show me a fat black woman with a bad attitude and I will show you 80 men asking her out on a date. I do not give a solitary fuck about any grievances women have regarding how their looks are perceived.
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Who are these 80 men though is the real question. I mean, I could go on whatever retarded dating app and probably get all the dick I want, but I don't want a living, herpes infested dildo. I want a potential husband and have some standards. So I would expect he would too more than does it have a wet hole? Unless you are going to argue to me that that's basically all men want in a wife...
 
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Blobby's Murder Knife said:
Unless you are going to argue to me that that's basically all men want in a wife...
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Yeah, a huge portion of men want a wife or a girlfriend. Women overstate how much men are only looking for hookups to shroud their high standards, the reality is that they only one to date an exceptional man despite alot of women being horrid people.
 
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