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Police officer: So what happened today?
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Dagny: I got jumped.
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Police officer: Tell me about it. What happened?
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Dagny: They've been antagonizing, you know, the people that I got caught with.
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Police officer: You mean from the other day? The vaping situation? Okay.
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Dagny: They were in the studio.
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Police officer: Okay.
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Dagny: Yeah. Where's my glasses?
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Sue: Okay. What I was told they called me. I'm going to start here. They called me. And, well, I know all week long she's been in ISP, right? Doing great.
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Police officer: Okay.
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Sue: And everything. We had a long talk. I mean, we've been doing awesome. And she told me, she said, mom, she said, these three girls there are just, they won't leave me alone. They're making comments, they're calling us names, they're throwing stuff at us. And this is an IP. I'm like, well, who's over this place? I said, ignore it, daddy. Get above it. Just ignore it. Sure she did, until she couldn't in the bathroom. And they said that there was three girls that were on top of her just beating the crap out of her. And I said, okay, so what are we doing about this? Oh, well, in a couple of days, we'll talk about it. I said, no, I want something.
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Police officer: Who said it in a couple of days?
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Sue: The principal.
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Police officer: Okay.
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Sue: Why are they saying that? I said, I think we need to have a police officer. It's assault. Because she never touched them. She never touched them. Now she.
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Police officer: Based on your understanding.
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Dagny: Yeah.
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Sue: Now she did. And everyone has said it. She did throw some water at them, because they.
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Police officer: And I appreciate, mom, you filling her in. But Ms. Dagney, why don't you tell me?
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Sue: Okay, I'm sorry.
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Police officer: No, you're good, mom. You're good.
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Sue: I'm just mad. I'm very sure.
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Police officer: Sure. And I don't want to cut you off, but I like to hear from, especially the older they are, they can tell me essentially what happened. Let me ask you this first, and I'm taking this off of what mama just said. So clear up the confusion, the confusion when this first started happening, whatever this is going, this banter back and forth between you and the other individuals, did you at any point contact any school administration, whether it be counselor, the teacher that sits in that classroom, did you let any of them know at any point in time?
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Sue: No.
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Police officer: Okay. And I'm just asking. There's no right or wrong, but why not?
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Dagny: I didn't really see the point in it. I told my mom, though.
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Police officer: Sure, but you didn't tell the school where they could actually do something at any point during this whole situation? And I use the word the word loosely. But the bantering or whatever it is going back and forth between you guys, obviously you know each other. Obviously you both know each other well. You know of each other with the vape situations and all that.
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Dagny: No, before this, we had no reckless. Before this ISP thing, we never saw each other. The freshmen were sophomore.
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Police officer: Okay?
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Dagny: We didn't know any. I don't know their names. I don't know.
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Police officer: Okay. So they just up and decided to just start messing with you?
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Dagny: Yeah, because of the way that we dressed.
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Police officer: Okay, so you didn't do anything at all at any point in time that would have even a couple of days ago or even a month ago or anything like that?
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Dagny: I don't know these girls.
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Police officer: Okay. All right. So they just continued to pick on you and pick on you. Then at some point what happened? They got up and confronted you in class? Or did you say it was the bathroom or the hallway? Okay, the bathroom.
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Dagny: We were going to set chairs, and after we set chairs, we went to the bathroom.
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Police officer: Okay.
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Dagny: And I was talking with my friends. They were talking with their friends, and we were laughing, and they had said something like, why do they laugh like that? And they were talking about us in front of us. And so I went up there and I poured water on them, and then all three of them came at me.
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Police officer: Pouring the water because I'm trying to get this in my mind. So I see I had a water bottle. Thank you. That's what I was asking. Where did you get this water? Was it a cup you found? Was it your water bottle? Your daily water bottle you'd carry around?
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Dagny: I do it with a plastic water bottle.
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Police officer: Okay, fair enough. Okay, so you squirted them with water, threw water on whatever it was. Okay. Then at that point, what happened?
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Dagny: They came at me. They grabbed on my hair. I grabbed onto them, I threw one of them into a paper towel dispenser. And then they got my legs out from under me and got me on the ground, started beating the shit out of me.
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Police officer: Okay.
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Dagny: And then my friends tried to jump in, help, but I'm not sure. I blacked out.
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Police officer: When did this happen? Today?
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Dagny: Around one.
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Police officer: Okay. Around lunchtime?
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Dagny: Yeah.
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Police officer: Okay. Yeah. So I'm going to follow up, mom, as far as you're concerned, I'm going to definitely follow up with the school tomorrow morning. Figure out. Because. Yes. Any criminal type action, the school is supposed to give us a call. That's good. So whether they just got, and I'm not making excuses for them, but I've seen it happen both ways, either maybe they forgot. Maybe there was other things going on. Who knows? But the fact of the matter is, they dropped the ball in this one of not notifying me right away.
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Sue: I wanted something, I said. That is assault. She never laid her hand. Now she did. Water. That was wrong.
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Police officer: Well, and I'll explain the criminal side of that in just a second. But as far as the school goes, just for what it's worth, I will speak to the school tomorrow. Not that it's going to make it any better, but I'm also going to gather all the information I can from all parties. Okay? So not only talking to you guys, but I am going to go talk to all the other parties tomorrow as well. And they're guardians as well, and all that good stuff, but yes, typically they're supposed to. But they're human.
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Sue: I know, but if I tell them, why wouldn't they do it?
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Police officer: I don't know. I can't account for. I don't know.
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Sue: And they told me I had to wait.
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Police officer: But also, mom. And again, I'm not taking their side or anything. I'm just telling you just parent to parent kind of thing. Adult to adult. Nothing says that you can't pick up the phone either.
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Sue: That's why I did.
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Police officer: But I mean, before even being here at the school. Hey, 911. I'm at whatever school. I'm at the west campus. I've asked the school to contact one of the school research officers. They're not doing it in a Timely manner. Dispatch me one out, then they get on my main side channel. Hey, officer Thompson, come out, just like right now. Officer Thompson, we've got a student with an altercation situation that happened at the west campus sometime today. Can you go follow up now at the ER? So that'll just get me to the high school that much quicker for your preference.
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Sue: Okay, so I should have went ahead and did it.
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Police officer: If the school does not want to call, you have every right as a guardian. I want a police officer. If the school is not going to do it, fine. You take the initiative. You pick up the phone and you go ahead and call and say, I would like an officer here.
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Dagny: Okay?
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Police officer: I will show up. Okay, so it doesn't matter if it comes through the channel of the school or the channel of the city. I will get both feeds. I will be there one way or another. Okay, so just food for thought for the future. Okay.
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Sue: Hopefully it doesn't happen again.
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Police officer: Just anything in life. Now, as to the specifics of the criminal crime. Okay, this is what I'm going to tell you, yes, I can technically do a report for the assault and batter. Absolutely. Okay. Because it's unwanted touching of one individual to another. They put their hands on you and it was unwanted. I will also tell you though, that we're saying what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Meaning the courts are going to look at it is, it's a mutual fight. So both parties are victims, but both parties are also suspects in this. You get what I'm saying? You're offender as well. So I will absolutely do a port if that's what you want. Okay. But I'm just letting you know the other party wants to do the same thing. The assault will be on her as well. Because she first assaulted. She was the one who initiated it, essentially because you got freedom of speech. You can do all this all day long. The action of physically the moment she threw that water, you've now assaulted somebody. You made the first jab just because it doesn't make it right. But they defended themselves, quote unquote. You retaliated back. Now we've got this back and forth when both parties had equal opportunity to separate. So that's where I'm saying it's not going to be in the best of light for you. But I can absolutely do that if that's what you like. I'm just telling you it may not go the direction you want it to go. I am not the judge, I'm not the jury. I'm here to just say, this is the facts, this is what's presented. But mom as guardian, because essentially juvenile cannot make that legal decision. If you want to proceed with it, absolutely. I will have you write out a statement, I'll document it, but I'm going to have to do the same thing for them. And if they say that, I'm going to gather their information as well. And based on her own admittance on camera as well as whatever else, she essentially started it.
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Dagny: Yes.
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Police officer: You see what I'm saying? So I'm not trying to drag her on the bus or anything like that. I'm just letting you know this is what will probably happen going forward. But I can absolutely do that if that's the documentation that you would want through the criminal side. Now through the school side, the school has their own. It's a zero tolerance, just like the vapes. All parties involved, everyone gets in trouble with this one. It's more of we're going to cut down, see what elements meet, any kind of specific crime. When she was first explained to me, hey, I didn't do a dang thing. Minded my own business. I went to the bathroom, they followed me in there, and they attacked me. Okay. She's a true victim of assault and battery. She did nothing. But the fact that she threw that water, it kind of puts her.
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Sue: Even though she didn't put hands on.
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Police officer: Them, it's still salt and batter. It's salt. The water.
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Sue: The water.
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Police officer: You see what I'm saying? If you have not have done that. Absolutely victim all day long. And I got you. And I still got you because I'm here to just put the facts down. But I'm just telling you, this is a good chance of the direction it will go when it goes to the ADA or when it goes to judges. They're going to look at it and say, okay, let's break it down piece by piece, element by element, who actually started the situation running the mouth is freedom of speech. Unfortunately. You can say mean, hurtful things all day long, and you got to let it roll off your shoulder the moment someone retaliates or does something physically or a directive threat verbally. Now you have something. Throwing that water on there, just because there's water doesn't make it any better. It could have been urine. It could have been paint. It could have been anything.
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Sue: What about because there was three of them and she only threw water on one?
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Police officer: Doesn't matter. I mean, it matters for the school. The school is going to. Everyone's going to be disciplined. That everybody that went in there, everyone that was in her group, everybody that was in the other group, doesn't matter. If there's three of them fighting, they're all going to be disciplined in the school. From a criminal side of things, it doesn't make it okay. You had three versus one. It doesn't matter. What matters is who started it and how bad of a situation. Like, was there weapons involved? Was there not things like that. Okay. But the biggest part is the fact that it's a mutual fight. So they all are victims, but they're all suspects. But she's in a little bit more of a situation because she's the one who started it by throwing an object or an item onto another individual, starting the incident. She's the one who started the domino effect. If she had never done that, and I'm not blaming you, I know if you had not have done that, we may not even be here. Or they would have went ahead and did their thing to you again. Hey, I was in the bathroom. My friends minding my own business, they started yapping. We started yapping, but nothing happened. Then they threw us in the wall. Okay, now I have where again, a true victim, but again, I'll show you, essentially shut your mouth as soon as you hit them with water. Does not give them the right to do it by any means. It still does not give them a right to put their hands on you at all. That's why I say they're just as guilty as you are, 100%. It's just I hate to see you both, criminally wise, get hung up on something so minuscule. But I am here to do that if that's what you like.
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Sue: Okay. What I would like done, and I hope you agree, is that you go to the school and find out why they did not call you. You know what I mean? I want that to be known because they are in the wrong for that.
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Police officer: I agree with you.
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Sue: I was wrong. I didn't know I could write there. And then they said, okay, well, in 24, 48 hours, when I get all of our statements and this and that, then we'll call someone in if you want. And I'm like, okay. I thought that's the way it was done. And then I talked with my sister and she said, no, when you take her up there, get someone up there right away.
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Police officer: Yeah. And I will certainly, absolutely help their talk. And I will document my own internal with my notes because again, there's a digital call here for this. It's not a formal report, but there's a digital. And in that note, I'm going to explain. I'll put in there the fact that I explained the options to you. You chose, hey, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but essentially you do not want a formal prosecute right now. Right now you would rather handle it civilly, internally, if you will, between parent, guardian and the school. Okay. Doesn't mean you can't civilly sue them. It doesn't mean that you can't have protective orders against them. I'm just giving those options.
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Sue: I just want those girls to know that they need to because they actually started everything from the get go, okay. From what I understand, from talking with the friend, I know all the girls, okay? And she told me, and then separately she told me. And the stories, I mean, it wasn't like they were together saying, okay, this is what happened.
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Police officer: And that's my plan, is to find out tomorrow with the admin what is all going on from all sides, all corners.
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Sue: There you go.
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Police officer: And if I can get additional facts of anything, mom, I don't have a problem, I'll contact you and let you know. Hey, look, there's more to the story, or this is what is believed to be.
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Sue: I want the parents to know. Yeah, I want the parents to know also what their girls are doing.
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Police officer: Right. And so with that, because it's a juvenile, I can't tell you what is.
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Sue: No, I just want you to.
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Police officer: What I can tell you is I will be in on conversation with the school, however that capacity may be with the parent. Yes. So if I'm able, and I have the ability to sit down with parent and say, look, this is what's what, which is what I'm hoping for, then absolutely. If it's a situation where it's already been handled for whatever reason, and I'm behind on catching up to all that, I'm not going to call parents in after the fact and rehash everything all over. But with you, I don't mind calling you saying, okay, look, this is what school has said. This is the information I've gotten, mom. This is where I'm at now at.
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Dagny: This point kind of thing.
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Police officer: I have no problems with that. Okay. And if you decide to change your mind tomorrow morning, when I call you mid morning, before noon, if you say, hey, look, I slept on it, I really feel like I want to go ahead and. Absolutely, mom. Then you can come up to. Actually, I can send you an email with a digital. So you don't have a hard copy here. I'll send you a digital print of our witness statement.
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Sue: There you go.
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Police officer: You can fill that out on her behalf of what she told you kind of thing. I don't know. Are you going to be at school tomorrow? No. Okay. They're going to keep you.
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Sue: They suspended her.
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Police officer: Okay, well, again, yeah, that's the school thing. But you'll be home, so if you say, look, I was restless sleeping last night, we think we'd rather go ahead and do it. Not a problem.
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Dagny: Okay.
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Police officer: I'll still take care of you. I'll just reopen this call, I'll start a report, I'll send you an email. You can fill it out with her, what she says, don't add lip, but put the facts. And I will be asking you that when I call you. That'll be the first thing I ask you before I give you additional information. Okay. Because I don't want to sway you one way or another. Well, here's additional facts. Well, then this, that and the other. I would say, mom, you've had 12 hours of sleep on it as a guardian what do you want to do as a parent? You make decision kind of thing. If you stand by it, I'm with you. If you change your mind, so be it. And then once you send me the email back and I get it all confirmed by replying back with the case number and all that. So that way you have a number associated. You can go to the records and obtain that if you want. Now, I won't give you very many facts of anything. It's going to be the basic who, what, when. We're wise to everything, but to get the actual detail of everyone's statements, schools, parents, kids, all that stuff, you have to actually subpoena for it and all that records act and all that. But I don't think that's necessary personally. But that's your prerogative. But I will follow up tomorrow morning with you sometime between nine and noon.
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Dagny: That's fine.
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Police officer: Depending on what other calls I get through the 15 schools. And we'll go from there. Okay. If medically here, she's got a fractured this, that, the other, whatever it may be, that documentation, have that as well. Because if you decide to move forward with wanting to press charges and there is something legitimate, more than just a scratch, you know what I'm saying? Okay, then we can document that and go from there. Okay, but I'm just giving you all. I'm just vomiting everything to you right now.
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Sue: Yeah, I'm going to talk with her some more. I know she's hurting right now.
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Police officer: Well, I mean, it always hurts when you get in a fight, whether you're the winner or the loser.
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Sue: Yeah.
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Police officer: It stresses the body out and it's really not worth it. Okay, well, that's what I'll do. Like I said, I'll get with school as soon as I can in the morning. Okay, thank you. Try to get what I can and we'll go from there.
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Sue: Chastise them for not calling.
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Police officer: Well, we'll definitely have a talk about that because they know better. And I will say, for what it's worth, I've worked with her for five years. She's typically spot on. Meaning the one who was with us. She's one of the best in that school of.
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Sue: I don't understand.
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Police officer: Yeah. If I was a betting person, I would venture to say that there was something else, a little bit more precedent that was going on. Not that this was not, but I think, like anything maybe a little overwhelming, maybe she had something else going on and it just slipped her mind, probably because as soon as I sent her a text message, and said, do you know anything about a fight at the school? Because I'm going to the ER. And she goes, oh, my gosh. Yes. Can I call you again? I said, I'm pulling up to ER now. I'll get with you tomorrow. And she's like, okay, I'm so sorry. Yes, there was an incident at the end of the day, I'll get with you tomorrow. And I was like, get ready to fill out statements and everything else because I need to know details. And she said, yes, sir, I know.
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Dagny: All right, thank you.
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Police officer: If it was any other individual, I may be a little bit more harsh about it, but she's usually on her toes. Usually. But I'll get with you, mom.
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Sue: All right. Thank you so much.
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Police officer: Yes, ma'am.
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Sue: For coming up here.
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Police officer: Absolutely. Nice to meet you in person. Good luck to you. I'll see you around.
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Sue: Hopefully not.
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Police officer: Well, not in a bad way. I mean, hope I see you around school and class and wandering the halls and all that good stuff. You can smile and wave and say, hey, Thompson, and all that good stuff. You guys have a good evening. There's.
