Thread tax first, cuz I wanna respond to some posts.
Purely superficial things that are lowest priority:
1. Good smile
2. Nice eyes
3. Hands that are big, but not too meaty, and are kinda pretty while having the marks of a working man (scars, calluses, etc.)
I'd have to go a lot more in-depth to get into the more important things like practicality/usefulness and personality traits. But basically, I like a guy that is able and willing to do a lot of the hard physical labor stuff I can't do, or could do, but not with the same level of efficiency as a man. And most importantly, I expect loyalty and greatly appreciate kindness. No fucking around with side bitches!
To reach top shelves at the supermarket and
open jars for me
Pro tip: Wrap a rubber band around the rim of the lid to give yourself more grip. Alternatively, putting on a rubber glove also helps.
I'm going to assume this guy is an anomaly, but tbh, I expect fathers to have that same unconditional love for and priorization of their children. Obviously the ideal would be that you are also able to have that same kind of unconditional love for your spouse, but if a man has a wife that is harmful to his kids, or if his continued relationship with that woman (even if she's the mother) is harmful to them, then I'd expect a good man to put his kids first and act on his love for them above all else. That's what a parent should do.
Furthermore, a mother is going to dote on her kids more than her husband, because they need that attention more. Children are more vulnerable and have less life experience, and therefore lower expectations for caring for themselves. Parents/spouses should make time and effort to regularly connect with each other, but at the end of the day, the adults should also be capable of meeting their own needs if their spose's time and energy gets split like that, and the adults shouldn't be tolerating the same things from their spouses that they would from their kids.
Maybe none of this is what this guy is talking about, but then otherwise, I really don't understand what he is getting at.
They're not asking. They're demanding.
Why does the expectation that you wash your ass seem like a demand to you?
Yeah, It’s true that people won’t want to engage with people who won’t listen to them. I’m a man who has posted in the man hate thread, and while I don’t agree with everything posted there I know that I don’t have to change their mind. I don’t agree with women who believe that men are incapable of love or emotional connection with women. Because I try my hardest to do those things. It hurts when I see women say that men are evil and can’t change. But I acknowledge that women have the right to that opinion, it’s not unreasonable. I agree that a lot of men are terrible. I don’t really know what point I’m trying to make anymore.
Sometimes I browse through the woman hate thread, mostly because I'm curious about the other half's perspective. I'll see a decent amount of things that are hurtful or outright dumb, but I don't take them personally if I don't think they apply to me, which I usually don't. I know a lot of men have almost nothing but negative experiences with women, and a lot of others have almost no experience with women, but are internalizing the stories from the men with bad experiences. So their perspectives are skewed. I think this happens with women as well. I know I used to be the type to internalize the negative stories about men from other women, because I had little personal experience with men who weren't immediate relatives.
I'm not really sure what I'm getting at either, but I think if you know in your heart who you are and can say to yourself that you're trying your best to be good to others, then that should be what matters. At the end of the day, men and women have their own sets of strengths and limitations, and expectations that come with these, but men and women are also just people, and some people suck a lot more than other people. People have their own reasons for having the viewpoints that they have, but if they legitimately hate the opposite sex, then that's just a limitation that they're placing on themselves.