Hasidic Community - Everybody's favorite type of Jew. Moved to "Mass Debates" 109 times.

Ironically, many Lakewood Jews loathe hasidim because they're moving into the area in droves and causing prices to skyrocket (as well as bringing excessive materialism to the community). You could easily interchange comments on A&N about Blackrock with comments on Lakewood websites about Hasidic (((developers))).
I was just out there last fall and I could definitely see that being a major source of tension. The Orthodox population there is well-off and are the ones working and building up the city. The women work too and you can time it to the second when they all leave the office to pick up their kids from school/daycare.
 
Why are Hasidics anti zionists? Shouldn't they be more zionists since theyre more religious?
It's related to their specific beliefs, iirc they believe jews shouldn't move back to the holy land before the messiah. Being anti-zionist is a positive imo.

The real issue with this thread moving out of PG is being shat up with even more /pol/ retardation instead of actual Hasidic fuckery.

Since they're Judaisms answer to wahhabist Islam and fundamentalist Christianity, how do they compare to those in terms of how shitty they are to women? I know someone in the Quiverfull thread said someone she knew that worked as a doctor in both Saudi Arabia and FLDS hq thought FLDS was actually worse than the Saudis (and that Orthodox Jews aren't nearly as bad to women either).
 
They literally will tell you you can't do something but then immediately introduce a loophole that makes it okay to do anyways
This always makes me laugh about kikes. They think they can literally cheat god. My favourite examples are the eruv in New York and the kosher list switch.
I know all the attention is going to go to the inner city Jews but there’s a gold mine elsewhere
And it's always the same, see a picture I'm about to post.
The real issue with this thread moving out of PG is being shat up with even more /pol/ retardation
It's not retardation when it's true. Like this.
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Why are Hasidics anti zionists? Shouldn't they be more zionists since theyre more religious?
orthodox jews (not just hasidim) are not really unified on the israel question
some believe that the jews were intended to remain in exile/diaspora until the arrival of the messiah who will then lead them to israel, and trying to return to israel before this happens is against the will of god
 
This always makes me laugh about kikes. They think they can literally cheat god. My favourite examples are the eruv in New York and the kosher list switch.

And it's always the same, see a picture I'm about to post.

It's not retardation when it's true. Like this.
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Lev Tahor are a thread of their own; there were charges of sexual abuse and other things in Canada so the head guy moved everyone to a small remote town in Guatemala and promptly pissed off the locals so some jews from the capital stepped in to help them move and I don't know what happened after that. I seem to recall they couldn't go to Israel because the guy who runs this group is also wanted there by the authorities but I could be wrong.

I don't think they're aligned with any Hasidic group either. Someone should look into what they've been up to.
 
Lev Tahor are a thread of their own; there were charges of sexual abuse and other things in Canada so the head guy moved everyone to a small remote town in Guatemala and promptly pissed off the locals so some jews from the capital stepped in to help them move and I don't know what happened after that. I seem to recall they couldn't go to Israel because the guy who runs this group is also wanted there by the authorities but I could be wrong.

I don't think they're aligned with any Hasidic group either. Someone should look into what they've been up to.
So kind of like FLDS moving to rural small towns in order to keep marrying little girls to men old enough to be their grandfathers?

How do Hasidic groups differ from other forms of orthodox Judaism? I assume not all orthodox Jews are Hasidic.
 
The real issue with this thread moving out of PG is being shat up with even more /pol/ retardation instead of actual Hasidic fuckery.
Yeah, I considered adding a note to the OP to keep things focused, but I think it's better to just let the jannies decide. I can't say that sperging about Metzizah B'peh is necessarily off-topic, but the Hassidic world has so much more to laugh at then the same three endlessly recycled /pol/ack talking points.
Since they're Judaisms answer to wahhabist Islam and fundamentalist Christianity, how do they compare to those in terms of how shitty they are to women? I know someone in the Quiverfull thread said someone she knew that worked as a doctor in both Saudi Arabia and FLDS hq thought FLDS was actually worse than the Saudis (and that Orthodox Jews aren't nearly as bad to women either).
Depends on the group. In general, the women are more educated than the men because they're not allowed to learn Talmud and have to settle for math and English instead. Chabad is pretty liberal and basically equivalent to Modern Orthodox (which is still very conservative by [current year] standards). Satmar makes women shave their heads. Skver doesn't let them drive. Ger abuses both sexes equally.
Lev Tahor are a thread of their own; there were charges of sexual abuse and other things in Canada so the head guy moved everyone to a small remote town in Guatemala and promptly pissed off the locals so some jews from the capital stepped in to help them move and I don't know what happened after that. I seem to recall they couldn't go to Israel because the guy who runs this group is also wanted there by the authorities but I could be wrong.
He drowned trying to go to the mikvah in a Mexican river in 2017.
I don't think they're aligned with any Hasidic group either. Someone should look into what they've been up to.
Last I heard they were trying to claim political asylum in Iran but I think that never panned out.
 
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So kind of like FLDS moving to rural small towns in order to keep marrying little girls to men old enough to be their grandfathers?
They aren't considered orthodox or Hasidim, just weirdos, by other jews. And everyone else too.
How do Hasidic groups differ from other forms of orthodox Judaism? I assume not all orthodox Jews are Hasidic.
Our resident rabbi @Catch The Rainbow can answer that for you.

He drowned trying to go to the mikvah in a Mexican river in 2017.
I just saw that in their Wikipedia article, Apparent his son is more batshit than Dad was.
 
Depends on the group. In general, the women are more educated than the men because they're not allowed to learn Talmud and have to settle for math and English instead. Chabad is pretty liberal and basically equivalent to Modern Orthodox (which is still very conservative by [current year] standards). Satmar makes women shave their heads. Skver doesn't let them drive. Ger abuses both sexes equally.
Ok, so it varies depending on the exact group kind of like it does with Christian fundies (though they're all pretty terrible to women overall). Women being taught math and science is interesting since teaching anyone math and science is a big no-no with Christian fundies. Skver sounds like it's comparable to FLDS and Saudi Arabia until the let women drive recently (FLDS lets women drive, but they deliberately withhold in-date plates to prevent them from leaving FLDS compounds).

Do Hasidic and other conservative Jews believe in evolution? Evolution is the day-vil for Christian fundies of all stripes.
 
teaching anyone math and science is a big no-no with Christian fundies.

Evolution is the day-vil for Christian fundies of all stripes
Did you know the big bang theory was originated by a Catholic priest? Did you know that the universities of Europe were originally set up and funded by the church?
And now, in an attempt to stay on topic...
Do Hasidic and other conservative Jews believe in evolution?
Considering they believe they are the master race (chosen people) I doubt it.
 
Did you know the big bang theory was originated by a Catholic priest? Did you know that the universities of Europe were originally set up and funded by the church?
And now, in an attempt to stay on topic...
Yes. Evangelical fundies and their ilk aren't exactly fans of catholics.
 
Our resident rabbi @Catch The Rainbow can answer that for you.
Eyeguy is actually better educated in Judaism than I am, I'm just more vocal about it.


How do Hasidic groups differ from other forms of orthodox Judaism? I assume not all orthodox Jews are Hasidic.
Hasidic Judaism is focused more on mysticism and catering to the spiritual side of Judaism versus normal Orthodox Judaism which places a stronger emphasis on learning. They also focus more on the role of joy in serving god. The idea started with the Baal Shem Tov who was a mystic in eastern Europe and his teachings spread through his students who went back to their own hometowns and became rabbis of their own. Each Hasidic sect is named after the town it originated in for example breslovors in breslov, bobovers in bobov, and Chabad lubavich in lubavich.

The way that a Hasidic community is built is that there's a rebbe that is the ultimate word on everything, you go to him for any religious questions or for life advice and he will advise you. Unlike modern Orthodox who would ask multiple rabbis, you get one answer and you have to stick with it. The rebbe can also issue decrees which you have to follow. For example, women in Kiryas Joel cannot drive because their rebbe decided it's immodest for women to drive.

Men in these communities spend the majority of their time learning Torah while the women raise the children and work. However more men are starting to work, founding businesses of their own and doing quite well. B+H photo is an example of such a business.

I personally am more modern Orthodox but I'm heavily influenced by the Breslov philosophy of finding joy wherever it exists.


Women being taught math and science is interesting since teaching anyone math and science is a big no-no with Christian fundies
So the women work while the men study. They have to learn about math and science in order to earn a living.


Do Hasidic and other conservative Jews believe in evolution? Evolution is the day-vil for Christian fundies of all stripes.
Mostly no and many don't believe in the bing bang either. I disagree with them on this topic because there's a central idea in Judaism about not limiting what God can do or ascribing him attributes. I personally believe it's a far greater miracle to create a system of life where complex beings grow from single celled pond scum than if every animal just was made fully formed.

Regarding off topic /pol/tards, eh that's what threadbans are for.
 
Regarding off topic /pol/tards, eh that's what threadbans are for.
If there's anyone who is off topic in a thread about kikes it's the person who keeps bringing up Christians.
Once again to try and keep things on topic, here's the hilarious kosher light switch I mentioned earlier. Classic cheating god!
 
If there's anyone who is off topic in a thread about kikes it's the person who keeps bringing up Christians.
Once again to try and keep things on topic, here's the hilarious kosher light switch I mentioned earlier. Classic cheating god!
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No one uses that switch and the rabbis who endorsed it withdrew their endorsement. That being said, Jews use timers on shabbat but it's only ok if they are set before shabbat.
 
No one uses that switch and the rabbis who endorsed it withdrew their endorsement. That being said, Jews use timers on shabbat but it's only ok if they are set before shabbat.
What about this?
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I can only assume from the shape of it that it works by you turning it on before shabbat, then when you don't need the light you insert it into your anus to blot out the light until needed again.
 
Israeli local elections are being held today. In Bnei Brak, Shlomo Elbaum, a follower of Rabbi Shaul Alter, is running for city council promising to deal with the rampant corruption and neglect that the city has suffered under Gerrer control. Elbaum is an attorney who has spent the past three years fighting a legal battle against the Ger terror campaign, and a very accomplished Torah scholar besides. Although the Gerrer candidate for mayor is expected to win easily (most hareidim will vote for whoever the "rabbis" (=hareidi politicians) tell them to) the Gerrer rebbe is hysterical over the possibility of Elbaum making it on to the council and has ordered his hasidim to stop his election at any cost. Gerrers have been bussed into Bnei Brak from around the country, and they've already started removing Elbaum's party's ballots (marked with the Hebrew letters טז) from voting booths:
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Gerrer attacks a poll worker:

Gerrers invading the Belzer HQ in Beit Shemesh:

Several Gerrers have been arrested for offering bribes to voters/attempting to purchase their IDs.
 
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They are like niggers. They breed like rats like niggers do and they also collect a lot of welfare. In Israel they are exempt from the conscription for religious reasons. They also get welfare in Israel. They have a lot of kids, but they don't join the IDF. They are basically useless parasites. They are a small minority in Israel. Most of the people that join the IDF are non practicing atheistic Jews. But these people don't have any kids. In the end the Jews will be out bred by the dune coons.

If Jews went back to being like gypsys and Irish travelers I wouldn’t hate them like I do right now. They used to be too stupid to do things like build illegal nuclear weapons and kill Palestinians children with airstrikes.

With Hassidim its wacky antics like the tunnels, or leaving a dead dog in front of a Palestinian family, or spitting on Christians.

Hasidic means “saintly” but you see these people engaging in some very unsavory behavior.
 
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