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Greg Land dindu nuffin. This is cool.
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Whatever happened to Liam's Ody? Did he survive the Greek military draft that Liam screwed him into? He seemed like one of the only gifted people in the sektur.
Ody started grinding out webtoons until Dark Horse picked him up for a publishing contract, now his work is being distributed in comic shops and bookstores across North America. The second 256 page volume is set to hit shelves next month, placing his output since 2020 at somewhere around ~800 pages of work. Mostly about things that interest Ody, which are giant Silent Hill monster vs chicks with giant asses (greek confirmed).

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still don't get why tracing is a bad. Rob Leifeld does it, Alex Ross does it, multiple artists does it. even my favorite hentai artist shimimaru does it, even Kentaro Yabuki endorses to use the body chan Yabuki version for reference/tracing.

is it because all these comicsgater loves the taste of EVS dick in their mouth and continue to suck on it and repeat his retarded talking points?

edit: oh yeah Greg Land does trace the porn face expressions for his females lol

There are a few things to bring up here, but honestly the TLDR is just "Art Fags Faggoted all over the Faggy place". The 3D asset "tracing" became a talking point that people could use to signal what side of the conflict they were on.

The truth, as I see it, is that 3D assets are a tool, like a hammer. Overusing a tool, or using it when it's not appropriate, is what leads to an inferior product.

As an example: If you use a 3D asset of of couch in a background of a panel, who gives a fuck? Nobody should, but faggy artists sometimes do because of "muh artist purity".

However, if you use that same 3D asset in a different panel, and set a 3D figure on top of that couch without reworking the art properly, it'll look like shit. The cushions need to be redrawn to show the person sinking into them, and the person needs to be reworked to show all the little ways a body changes when not standing. If this isn't done you end up with a stiff looking character floating over what end up looking like a cement couch.

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Now, to end on a sperg-out. None of this is "tracing". Nothing in Isom was "traced". This is 3D assets being used in image editing software, with filters applied, and colors modified, to create pictures in the "comic style". This doesn't really matter, I'm just engaging in a little recreational pedantry.
 
Niggas in here arguing over EJ when Matt Bahr is fighting all of CG and giving no fucks.

"I don't like this Star Wars movie" is an opinion.
"Hollywood is dead and my gay youtube show has killed it; here is a 45 minute documentary about how I did it" is a statement that can be proven true or false.
Disney is scared.
Disney is running.
Disney is about to collapse.

Sorry, but you'll never be able to convince me to give a shit about if a car in the background, foreground, midground, up your ass, in space, anywhere is traced. Does Ethan get brownie points for drawing everything he does by hand? He gets a heart-felt "cool, good for him" from me. Where does a guy like Ethan lose points?

- Spending most of the day streaming, bitching about some other retard who did better than him on campaign
- Not delivering his fucking projects in a timely manner
- Writing being mid-level and then putting on a smug face saying another creator he doesn't like should be ridiculed for their mid-level writing
- Using the money he got from crowd-funding his products on anything other than keeping his business running smoothly in order to fulfill the prior points.

If Eric's spending on manpower gets him bankrupt, so be it, but why does it fucking matter to Ethan? If his artist traced a car or a table, who actually, honestly, truly gives a flying fuck? If Eric went on twitter and blocked retards from constantly asking him about shit they don't actually care about... again, why does anyone actually fucking care? If it matters at all to anyone who was previously a happy consoomer of Eric's shit, then they will tell him with their wallets like good CG followers. That was, to my understanding, the whole fucking point.

You beat a guy like Eric by sitting back and letting either his fans or him run out of money first, why does Ethan, Vedo, Juju or anyone of his little froggots HAVE to go on this holy mission to fuck with Eric while neglecting their own work?

Because no matter what, they will keep sucking down his shit, not because they actually care.
The CG fans have the same mindset. Ask them why they care so much about Eric's comics if they aren't his customers and they'll rage about this and that or just say "They're shit!" Very cultish behavior, grown men (I'm guessing) determined to destroy someone because a fat closeted power bottom told them to. Fucking hell, at least in scientology you get to go to events and see Tom Cruise or some B actor. What do you get in CG?
 
Niggas in here arguing over EJ when Matt Bahr is fighting all of CG and giving no fucks.
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Frog couldn't handle him. His 'capos' have been blocking Bahr since August of last year after a failed dogpile, and refuse to lift if even if it means being allowed in the CG greenroom. Even his imported attack tard Riley was one-sidedly bullied by Wiggle and Bahr into leaving a Finatra stream. It's gotten to the point where they're having to bring in Gunt Nurgle himself as the ultimate last resort, only to get ignored. It's looking rough out there for ole Tony Soprano's would be IBS career.
 
Liefield admitted that he traced it fully.

Are you the arbiter of what is good and bad in comics? Are you the arbiter if the comics has "soul" or "energy" in comics? how do you quantify life and energy in comic art? what happens if the characters are drawn and the backgrounds are digital backgrounds, is it 75% life? what happens if characters are traced, is it 1% life? what happens if the art is shitty but not traced, is it 50% life because at that point he should have used reference. what happens if everything is traced, is it no life? also post proofs of the 3d models ISOM used being traced here, if you don't you're just pontificating baseless accusations.

also this is how you sound:
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only retards and speculators (oh wait they're the same thing) collects comic books because they like the art. all your bloviating is just subjective. who cares if the art, story is bad? who cares if its traced. if someone pays for it and enjoys reading it, why the fuck is it your business?

also, there are manga with very "bad art" yet beloved by people, for example Shingeki no Kyoujin

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yes the artist started the comics just like One (onepunch man).

also let's not forget how shitty EVS is at drawing and really at this point, needed tracing more than the ISOM artist
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Geez. You're taking this really personal. I never said I'm the arbiter of anything but I'm not fucking blind. When most humans look at a piece of art they react to it in some sort of way or they don't. Bad art gets no reaction. That's not me saying that because I think I'm some kind of expert, it's the way people react to everything in life. The reason Liefeld was so popular was because of the energy he gave his comics. There are tons of artists who can draw better but they don't evoke any emotion in the viewer. Hate evs all you want but he was a top tier artist in his day.
 
I was hyped about rainbow brute February of 2020. Ethan Cecil Malin and others did a 6 hour drunk stream watching reinbrow brite cartoons, plotting out the book that I am so thankfull I never backed. because that was fucking 4 years ago when this concept was being put together. It was around the fall of Rome and right before The beer bug happened. So 4 years after concept its not even close to being fulfilled. I like to read the backers now days to these campaigns and let it sink in that hundreds of backers are never going to be backing again, and ethan never gives a shit about them. And now to go total eric nigger death over quality, when you have hundreds of paypigs you told to fuck off with your actions ....

There is a little confessional of my history with my hate boner for Ethan. Its not even hate its just disappointed, knowing how big of a back stabbing, lying snake oil salesman Ethan truly is.

and the following 3 years of staying mildly interested in the streams for work, and back ground noise, people I enjoyed being tossed off Ethan's inner circle because of absolute bullshit,c and the trend continues today.

Never backed his shit, never paid him a super berry, so I have no shame, except the wasted time for this fat pos.
 
I was scrolling through my youtube subscriptions a few days ago when I noticed a political video that had a few hundred thousand views in a few hours. The most shocking thing, however, was the channel that put it out:
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Well well well, if it isn't Nerkish himself. I had forgotten I had remained subscribed to him from a long time ago, and it looks like he has undergone (another) rebrand, and decided to do Trump political videos to chase the algorithm. Appears he has been successful as well, based on his social blade:
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5.5 million views in 30 days is big numbers. Late January is when he started taking off it appears. If you go to his earliest uploaded videos on his channel, only the political stuff remains. Below image is the earliest viewable videos on his channel.
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You can see he has been changing things on the thumbnail to try and hit algorithm gold. You can see how inconsistent it is, with the Adam Schiff video at 200k views, then a day or so later his video has under 1k views.

Comments on the Whoopi Goldberg video commenting on his rebrand:
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I believe other people in this thread have commented on his previous project that was the Burkle and Spay animated show (That I believe he was doing with Doug?), all those videos are gone from this channel, and are now on a different channel.

Maybe other readers of the thread can comment on the goings on of Nerkish, but I hadn't seen anyone comment on this in the thread so I wanted to post about it and let people know. I do wish him well, seems like he finally found some youtube stuff that might help him pay the bills.
 
There is a little confessional of my history with my hate boner for Ethan. Its not even hate its just disappointed, knowing how big of a back stabbing, lying snake oil salesman Ethan truly is.

and the following 3 years of staying mildly interested in the streams for work, and back ground noise, people I enjoyed being tossed off Ethan's inner circle because of absolute bullshit,c and the trend continues today.
Rainbow was the only EVS book I ever backed. I'm not really a comic guy, so I didn't care about his other projects, but that one sounded different and relevant at the time. EVS also seemed to have his shit more or less together back then. (I didn't back many projects, but interestingly, while all the other projects I backed were late, EVS is the only project I backed that has completely failed to materialize for the greatest amount of time by a long shot.)

I feel similar to you in that I just want to see some kind of karmic justice after having been duped into thinking this fraud was building an ecosystem that might eventually grow into something with even bigger potential. (Despite all of his faults and retardation.)
 
Rainbow was the only EVS book I ever backed. I'm not really a comic guy, so I didn't care about his other projects, but that one sounded different and relevant at the time. EVS also seemed to have his shit more or less together back then. (I didn't back many projects, but interestingly, while all the other projects I backed were late, EVS is the only project I backed that has completely failed to materialize for the greatest amount of time by a long shot.)

I feel similar to you in that I just want to see some kind of karmic justice after having been duped into thinking this fraud was building an ecosystem that might eventually grow into something with even bigger potential. (Despite all of his faults and retardation.)
I learned a valuable lesson about internet outrage grifters mostly because of this web site. Funny thing is I would never have known this web site existed if it wasn't for Rackets, and EVS And Metokur. Internet people are fake and gay, never give them money, never pay money to have some one read a chat. Not only are you a simp if you do, you have Doxed yourself to possible Sociopaths, and if you ever turn against said sociopath, your in a fucked up situation. Like Say @Captain Manning, who's acquaintances at one time Vikki and Dean spent an hour shitting on via shitting rackets. Every one is game.
 
Like I said, I'm not here to white knight for anyone. I'm not saying these guys are perfect or that they can't be wrong or have stupid opinions.
They have no profound takes on anything, they don't offer you interesting views and they don't even have any strong convictions that would make their view on something noteworthy.
The griftosphere sucks, they are a net negative on anything they attach themselves too.
While I do listen to FNT
The only media news person you should listen to is Vara Dark.
Most of the time you don't even need to watch her videos because you know what it's about in the title and if you need more information you get that in the first minute.

Why the fuck does anyone watch hours of a bunch of midwits cry about that evil Hollywood changed their own slop from 00s, 10s to 20s era propaganda.
Watching this garbage literally makes you dumber.

If you wanna watch long form critique of Hollywood and media watch Blackpilled, at least you could learn something there.

If his artist traced a car or a table, who actually, honestly, truly gives a flying fuck?
The main contention was that the characters themselves are 3D assets, which end up looking boring and motionless.
He is right about that, it ends up looking lame.
EVS shouldn't care; he should improve on his anatomy instead of criticizing artists worse than himself.
But I think EVS will never improve from the point he is at right now because the real reason he cut ties with Doug is the fact that Doug is a way better artist than EVS and that made him seethe.
 
You beat a guy like Eric by sitting back and letting either his fans or him run out of money first, why does Ethan, Vedo, Juju or anyone of his little froggots HAVE to go on this holy mission to fuck with Eric while neglecting their own work?
In Juju's case, the speculation is that he's trying to goad July into a huge fight (and possibly lawsuit) so that he can make him Maddox 2.0. That's the chief belief among those that are familiar with Juju, and follow him closely. EVS is just taking advantage of that.

Anyways, I don't really have a whole lot to say about this anymore than what I already said a number of times. I think I said my piece when I said that EVS throwing in with JuJu and pals is gonna be the death of CG. Skimming the thread, it seems like nearly everybody that posts here is more or less in agreement, and many of you follow this way more closely than I do.

Disney is scared.
Disney is running.
Disney is about to collapse.
Okay, who let Doomcock on here?

Jk.

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long, 6-hour+ daily efaps, hanging out with 'the' Shane Davis, vinyl car wraps for a bisexual furry manlet driving the world's slowest car, Vito, and a fat retard who sells photos of himself having sex with Diddler Dax's freeuse autistic woman-child on the internet
Wow, six hours of THE Shane Davis, Riley and Vito every day! Sounds like a comic book lover's WORST FUCKING NIGHTMARE IS THIS SOME KIND OF SICK JOKE YAHWEH YOU BASTARD fantasy brought to life!
 
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FROG said:
"Most entirely white kids, that are like I have a "Black" friend on the internet. You realize that don't you? You realize, that like you know, um, "Race"... Really does have a lot to do with why people like you?"
"Because, uh, people are like well look this is great. Like, there's a guy on the internet, who's a black guy who shares my politics and probably doesn't hate me because of the color of my skin."
"AND, it turns out that you do! TURNS out that Eric does! He looks at you and sees the color of your skin and he just goes..."

"Eh this is some gay shit. You think I'm gonna beg white people!? White People!? Uh for anything? That's not who I am, that's some "GAY" shit. Hmmm"

Here I thought Matt Bahr and Ethan fighting would bring ADL in mix, but after this clip. Holy fuck, bring on the NAACP too. :story:

The TARD WAR has begun boys and Comicsgate is the battleground. Strap yourselves in.
 
As for the employees/warehouse itself. I recall Eric talking about the possibility of doing a fulfillment service of his own at some point. Which would or could mean extra money between launches.


Welp. Looks like Eric July doing a fulfillment service has become a reality. Can't wait to see how this gets spun.




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It's funny EVS is going that route when the only reason he was supported is he played the 'oppressed conservative.' Of course Rippa is getting a boost by being black but he's also doing what Ethan did better. If books came out in months not years Rippa would have been a flash in the pan.
 
Welp. Looks like Eric July doing a fulfillment service has become a reality. Can't wait to see how this gets spun.
I assumed it was going to be just a fulfillment service, but it sounds like there will be an option to host your "store" on his site, something like backerkit's hosted pre-orders I imagine. That's an interesting step!
 
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