Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Thomas Talus]

Vlad Vexler said in a video that Putin never gives any direct order to kill people. He always formulates such requests in a very encrypted and lawyer speak way. So instead of saying "You need to kill Navalny by date X", he'd have a room with multiple people and he'd say "You know Oppositzki is a problem. And we can't allow him to remain a problem so it'd be beneficial for us if you did something about it". The people in the room are then left to think and guess for themselves what he meant and they're supposed to do.

Vill no one rid me of zis turbulent priestski?

 

[jalopy]

Does anyone see how Transnistria being "annexed" helps Russia at all from a strategic standpoint? I can only see it benefiting Putin's election, making it the greatest Tsarist luxury I've seen from him to date.

Any statement on when trannystan will join Russia?

Putin will be doing his messianic speech at noon Moscow time. Apparently its to lay out the six year plan for Russia. Truly advancing, a whole extra year planned for.

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In dumb Amerimutt news, this genius clip:

TL;DW: Its an exemplar of how the average American seems to approach the issue, that is ignorantly, without context, and with loud noises abounding.

Spoiler: Summary

The short, screeching one misquotes the article I posted previously about CIA involvement with Ukraine. He misquotes such that the head of the CIA was landing during the Maiden, the article stated specifically that he arrived after the Maiden and that the entire headquarters was a mess of burnt paper and malware ridden computers. He also claims the CIA ran the 12 intelligence bases on the Russian border. No, the CIA helped pay for them in exchange for intelligence. Pretty clear the guy only read claims about the article instead of reading it. He follows that up with a clip of Budonev saying, in a subtitled clip, that Navalny died of a blood clot. Thing is, why do you take the word of an intelligence officer running a covert war against another country? This could be him saying to the Russians that he already knows what their story is going to be.

Then the other character in this font of wisdom quotes a pile of copy pasted articles like they mean anything. This sets off screechy as he's mad that none of them would go to Russia like Tucker to FIND THE TRUTH.

The head of the podcast interrupts them to shill a comedian's(?) show and move the subject on.

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An article on the export of grain out of Ukraine, showing that the Grain Deal is no longer required and that the Russian Black Sea Fleet can't even blockade a nation without a Navy. It includes this graph

Postulating, but it seems likely that more and more grain will be exported via the Black Sea.

Follow that up with this, according to the Ukrainian Agricultural Ministry grain exports are up 12% against February last year, when the Grain Deal was in place. Up to 5.3 million tons. At that rate I would suspect they can empty out there grain storage before the natural uptick in August.

 

[DumbDude43]

Does anyone see how Transnistria being "annexed" helps Russia at all from a strategic standpoint?

it kills any talk of moldovan reunifation

 

[Bunny Wigglesworth]

To nobody’s surprise the Dnieper Trannies are pulling a DPR/LPR. Ukies should do their own SMO on Fakenistria and liberate the oppressed Romanians & Ukrainians there. Feel free to make it a fingercuff, Moldova. I doubt there’s much useable stuff left at Cobasna ammo depot that Viktor Bout & his like didn’t sell, but if it’s enough to keep UA artillery firing another 2 or 3 months it’s worth it. Give the surviving 14th Guard remnants & Russian puppets 12 hours to surrender or become statistics in Putin’s war. Trannystan “peacekeeper” morale is low but if the Ruscists slip troops & equipment in there and keep making gains in Ukraine, that will change. Best defense is a good offense, waiting for Moscow to do what it’s telegraphing it will do is insanity.

However, these powerful/important people are never going to face challenging interviewers

ExLax Fridman is the biggest literal-who to ever have a top podcast. Dude must’ve had serious seed money because a starched shirt would be less boring. And yeah, he rarely pushes back...unless a guest said the n-word once or pointed out the inordinate amout of influence that jews have (Kanye). That’s why Tucker went to Lex, not someone like Konstantin Kisin who challenges his bullshit about Russia and got himself blacklisted from Tucker’s show doing so.

 

[AgendaPoster]

That’s why Tucker went to Lex, not someone like Konstantin Kisin who challenges his bullshit about Russia and got himself blacklisted from Tucker’s show doing so.

Kisin is also a coward. A few years ago, he faced the usual challenge most centrists pandering to the right with continuous seething about "the woke" eventually come upon - an actual English right winger, Morgoth.
Needless to say, Kisin and his cohost acted the exact same, scared way Tucker and the sort act when faced with criticisms they are unable to address, completely shut things down, deleted comments, and kept crying about Nazis on Twitter in the most stereotypical way possible.
But yeah, he's generally OK on Russia.
"Woke right" is such malicious branding though. Wokeness already is a contaminated term. What exactly are you fighting here? Civil rights? Immigration? Is being honest about racial groups "woke"? Then everyone sane is woke. Is it crying about discrimination woke? Then best of luck to whitey when it becomes minority in 40 yrs I guess?
Why can't people be honest? How hard is it to say in a polite manner what you actually want?
As for Transnistria, if Russia gets Odessa and the south, it's basically a guarantee what comes next. Moldova is not NATO nor EU and help will not come, just as it stopped for Ukraine. They are a sitting duck.
If these things will get solved during my lifetime, I wanna gloat for just 5 mins to Ukrainians who thought it was a smart decision to fight with Russia against Moldovan ethnic nationalism, resulting in this enclave. Only to find their own ethnic drive decades later.

 

[Fuck It We'll Do It Live]

Great fucking job, Lex Fridman.

Fridman was born in the Soviet Union and grew up in Moscow.

Zisters, it KEEPS happening...:
More pictures can be found here [in Russian].

If these things will get solved during my lifetime, I wanna gloat for just 5 mins to Ukrainians who thought it was a smart decision to fight with Russia against Moldovan ethnic nationalism, resulting in this enclave. Only to find their own ethnic drive decades later.

That was pretty retarded, yes. But the fact that Moldovans have long larped as vatniks (Moldovan is an ORIGINAL language, donut steel) instead of accepting they are just Vlachs has also been pretty retarded.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Zisters, it KEEPS happening...:
View attachment 5766322View attachment 5766324View attachment 5766326View attachment 5766328 More pictures can be found here [in Russian].

That was pretty retarded, yes. But the fact that Moldovans have long larped as vatniks (Moldovan is an ORIGINAL language, donut steel) instead of accepting they are just Vlachs has also been pretty retarded.

I must awoooooord!

Yo, these images of the guy showing damage from missiles look pretty memeable

 

[R00T]

I think if Biden took over every screen, every radio wave, every household, and every station for 3 hours there would be global outrage with Americans taking to the streets and demanding his head.

 

[Brain Problems]

I think if Biden took over every screen, every radio wave, every household, and every station for 3 hours there would be global outrage with Americans taking to the streets and demanding his head.

Half of them would, the other half would be saying, ackshually it's pretty great that he's taking the time to talk to us.

In other news, Russian fighter jets seem to be getting picked off quite frequently as of late:

https://twitter.com/GlasnostGone/status/1763137690952765938

Some speculation about why the uptick and whether it's because the Russians are being more aggressive with them to push the momentum while they can or what.

 

[Ghostse]

Some speculation about why the uptick

I have heard poorly sourced speculation that the Su-34/35 missile lock detection isn't working.

The Su-34/35 fleet have burned through the available spares of some kind of missile defense component, either an early warning RADAR or ECM (or they've been reallocated). That or the Yooks have switched to frequencies/pulses that prevent the system from alerting to missile lock and Russian airforce hasn't adapted yet.

 

[mindlessobserver]

"Maybe ram it?" - ah, there's the famous Slavic spirit

And on that day, Ivan Ivanovich went down in history alongside the names of Caesar, Alexander, Genghis Khan and Hitler, as a man of history who while drunk on duty accidentally triggered the first interstellar war by ramming his suicide drone into the Alien diplomatic shuttle.

 

[No. 7 cat]

This suggests that holy Moscow Mike is a kept man via a now Russian owned company in Texas, but being that politicians are whores, these might be just one of his johns, that he's just a weak politician in fear of the loud but small 'Freedom Caucus' / Putin gimps / Biden Derangists. Still Russian influence is certain not impossible given how stubborn he is about it, with a lengthy measure required to bypass his refusal to table the bill. Putin might be his pimp or not, but deliver us God from most politicians, that Guido Fawkes and Robert Gatesby understood the matter well.

The actual state of aid. A certain sort of burger thanks to mis-info from Xitter putinbots and the now Hungarian owned Heritage Foundation claim the US funds it all and that the khokols are done for now, and should give up. This doesn't account for the most recent commitments.



William Spaniel analyses Russia's hydrocarbon's crisis in the light of the temporary (6 month ban) on gasoline exports. He sees it only partly as a result of Ukraine's infrastructural attacks given that a diesel export ban was imposed last October before any level of Ukrainian attacks on oil facilities, which he notes have a certain fog as finding out for definite what each facility produces or ships is not definitely verifiable and facilities can produce multiple products and an attack on 27th January could've been an accident or internal sabotage. And steel facilities and naphtha plants were also struck. Suggests that the ostensible reason of maintenance is not wholly implausible as there has been a loss of employees simply wanting pay in a convertible currency. Also sees an angle of Russia perhaps wanting to increases prices, but Russia's share of refine product worldwide is miniscule. Notes that inflation is substantially a result of wild spending on the war, that low unemployment is a result of the war, men to the front and both men and women to the factories feeding the war machine.

Azov drone bombing Russian positions in Serebryan forest in Donetsk oblast:

 

[AgendaPoster]

Azov drone bombing Russian positions in Serebryan forest in Donetsk oblast:

There is always another way. The few Russians that are sane understand.
Remain alive, surrender, stop fighting for a 75 yrs old oligarch autocrat thief and genocide enthusiast.

 

[No. 7 cat]

Spoiler: Scholz worried Taurus would hit Moscow

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, at a meeting with residents of Dresden on 29 February, gave a new argument for not transferring long-range Taurus cruise missiles to Ukraine.

Source: Olaf Scholz, quoted by the DPA news agency, European Pravda reports

Details: Scholz said that the Taurus, a missile with a maximum range of 500 kilometres, is a weapon that, "in case of incorrect usage, could hit a certain target somewhere in Moscow".

"That's why, I'm speaking in all diplomatic abstraction; others have also made sure they know where everything goes," he added.

The German chancellor stressed that if Germany were to supply the Taurus, it would have to be directly involved in the launch of the missiles, and "I think that is impossible," Scholz said.

Earlier in the week, Scholz said that he strongly opposed supplying Taurus cruise missiles to Ukraine, citing the risk of drawing Germany into the conflict.

The German Chancellor's words, which some commentators interpreted as an alleged recognition of the presence of British and French troops in Ukraine, have already been denied by the UK Ministry of Defence. They stressed that the use of long-range missiles is the sole responsibility of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Ukrainska Pravda archive link

Scholz is ludicrous. Putin continually launches Iranian and Nork rockets and drones, plus whatever he has of his own stock at Kyiv and other population centers, primarily at civilian targets. Being worried that the missile 'in case of incorrect usage, could hit a certain target somewhere in Moscow' is daft.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Smekalka will fix!

I expect rolling a Pantsir like that is going to upset a lot of sensitive systems; it'll probably take longer to upright & repair, than it'll take for the driver to find himself in a Ukrainian hole.

 

[Fuck It We'll Do It Live]

My take atm: Russia is currently turning the war from a pyrrhic victory to a minor one; it's currently capturing villages in the Donbass after capturing
Avdiivka (albeit trading aviation losses) and will continue to do so until Ukraine can establish a new fortified defense line; Russia has thus secured the conditions for at least a minor victory:

1. Liberate the Donbass from biolab-grown Banderite Nazis led by a Russian-speaking Jew who isn't really a Jew, according to Putin's Kosher buddies.
2. secure the gates to Crimea and ensure fresh water is not cut off to it anymore.

US funding and arms to Ukraine has dried up due to the House of Representatives holding things up (same way I predict Israel will be forced to accept a Palestinian State (even a quasi one; i.e. something close to Trump's two-state deal) post-Gaza by the Sunni Arab states (including Saudi Arabia) in exchange for their recognition, as Israel is too reliant on US arms as well and its ongoing war has shown its own logistical limitations).

Thus, the war will become an pan-European one rather than a pan-Western one; similarly non-European Japan and South Korea aren't providing arms and Australia won't send any helicopters or jets after all. It's now up to the traditionally Russophobic European states (i.e. UK, Scandinavia, Baltics, Poland, Czech Rep.), along with Macron providing regular Caesars (the new main 155mm artillery gun now that the US M777 is no longer in regular supply) and even providing the argument of sending troops to Ukraine(not going to happen, lel, but he's the first one to seriously suggest that).

Trump long warned the Europeans that the US becoming increasingly isolationist in its feelings towards providing the lionshare of NATO security and now Europe will have to support Ukraine for the long war; the war won't come to end soon but Russia has perhaps won the second stage of this conflict (first one being 2014-2015); we may be entering the third one soon.

 

[teriyakiburns]

similarly non-European Japan and South Korea aren't providing arms

Japan legally can't provide arms, but they're sending just about everything else. That said, the Japanese government is slowly loosening its current restrictions on its ability to wield military force, in preparation for confrontations with China, so I wouldn't rule out some form of military cooperation with Ukraine at some point in the near future.

 

[High-Fructose Corn Syrup]

Half of them would, the other half would be saying, ackshually it's pretty great that he's taking the time to talk to us.

In other news, Russian fighter jets seem to be getting picked off quite frequently as of late:
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https://twitter.com/GlasnostGone/status/1763137690952765938

Some speculation about why the uptick and whether it's because the Russians are being more aggressive with them to push the momentum while they can or what.

"Trust us bro".

 

[Fuck It We'll Do It Live]

Japan legally can't provide arms, but they're sending just about everything else. That said, the Japanese government is slowly loosening its current restrictions on its ability to wield military force, in preparation for confrontations with China, so I wouldn't rule out some form of military cooperation with Ukraine at some point in the near future.

Japan is constitutionally-bound to not send arms, but they've, at best, sent only logistical equipment and UAVs. Otherwise, they have been much better as a substantial financial aid provider. South Korea has also, at best, allowed the US to take US-made shells stored there (like it does in Israel) anyway and let Poland send the partially-Korean (i.e. its chassis) AHS Krab to Ukraine. Otherwise, the pro-Western Asian nations really see Ukraine as a white man's civil war. They got their own Asian priorities (the aforementioned China and also North Korea) to worry about.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

same way I predict Israel will be forced to accept a Palestinian State (even a quasi one; i.e. something close to Trump's two-state deal) post-Gaza by the Sunni Arab states (including Saudi Arabia) in exchange for their recognition, as Israel is too reliant on US arms as well and its ongoing war has shown its own logistical limitations).

Bullshit. The U.S. is not going to cutoff aid to Israel. And even if it does, Israel doesn't need U.S. aid; its domestic arms industry is among the largest in the world, and more than capable of supplying their own armed forces.

Japan is constitutionally-bound to not send arms,

Actually, that's incorrect. Japan's constitution doesn't bind it from selling weapons. The Japanese passed a separate law for that.

Otherwise, the pro-Western Asian nations really see Ukraine as a white man's civil war. They got their own Asian priorities (the aforementioned China and also North Korea) to worry about.

What you fail to realize is that Japan and South Korea both consider Russia a threat (Japan because they have an active, ongoing land dispute with Russia, and South Korea because Russia ostensibly supports North Korea). And both nations are unfriendly towards the Chinese, who are (nominally) a Russian ally. They very much support Ukraine making the Russians bleed.