Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Whoopsie Daisy]

The baltics are the last free bastion of Europe.
The general consensus, outside of the increasingly westernising capital cities, is that communism was good for safety and bad for freedom and capitalism is good for freedom but bad because everyone is poor as shit.

The rural, deep countryside of the baltics is the E-dream trad lifestyle. Currently, the EU is trying to flood the small, often 80% unoccupied villages with niggers and arabs. While i'm no fan of communists or Russia, I've seen first hand what floods of paki immigrants do to an area. It isn't pretty.

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

I certainly hope you're wrong; throw clocks at me all you people in this thread want, but did I miss something? Was there some NATO/Pentagon memo leaked which talks about blaming some massive attack on Russia? I personally would think not given how almost everyone in European NATO near IMMEDIATELY walked back Macron threatening to send troops into Ukraine. I think these people are dumb, but not outright suicidal.

I hope so too. But when the US Secretary of Defense comes out yesterday and says "If Ukraine falls, I really believe that NATO will be in a fight with Russia" it makes me not so sure. I'd like to think cooler heads and logic will prevail, but this is the Neocon way and they control most of both major parties.

That being said, it has to be done. If our world doesn't go multipolar the absolute insanity will never end. I mean, it probably still won't end, but at least it gives a fighting chance for some.

 

[Uncle Holter]

Momentarily bedazzled by African BBC, Macron spoke too early.

View attachment 5770333
They all plan on sending their people into the meatgrinder; did you forget Sweden sperging about getting their population ready for war?

Oh we're getting ready for war alright, but not the one they are thinking of.

Death to ZOG! May Sweden throw out the traitors that has oppressed us for far too long!

 

[just a banana]

on Xitter rn, lots of discussion about a supposed discussion between German military officers about how best to blow up the Crimea bridge and such like.
for example

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/ioHSt

https://twitter.com/TobiAyodele/status/1763545964428583208

linked article link

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/W7kdH

Medvedev rants

https://twitter.com/DagnyTaggart963/status/1763539440293572823

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/TYrse

But isn't it better to enjoy the Day of the Cat?

https://twitter.com/OlgaBazova/status/1763519453411619153

 

[Uncle Holter]

But isn't it better to enjoy the Day of the Cat?

https://twitter.com/OlgaBazova/status/1763519453411619153

View attachment 5771299

No! Every day is best spent getting hyped for our liberation!

I can feel America's and by extension ZOG's grip on Europe loosening day by day. We shall regain our freedom soon!

 

[kuuu]

Who really cares about the Baltics?

I remember @Badungus Kabungus arguing that in case butthurt belt gets flattened nobody including NATO would care. He is probably right from the look of things.
The question then is why would Russia care to do anything to them? And beyond securing a direct path to Kaliningrad I can't think of anything either.

I can feel America's and by extension ZOG's grip on Europe loosening day by day. We shall regain our freedom soon!

And then you wake up to reality where Sweden is just about to join NATO. Care to guess who is going to be paying the increased military budget?

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Hate to be the bearer of bad news Russiabros, but terrible news from the front.

Ukrainian air defenses have shot down almost 100 top modern SU34 in just a single day.

View attachment 5770196

According to their own claims anyways


Some years ago there was a major scandal in the US Air Force.

The missile crews who have to you know… Maintain and LAUNCH nukes were all fought cheating on tests.

(They have to take a test periodically, to ensure their skills are up to par, and brass just handed them the answers.)

That story makes a lot more sense now.

The cheating "scandal" was due to Airmen at the silos having to take idiotic tests constantly where any score less than 100/100 was grounds for punishment. I think it was 2 or 3 less than 100/100 and you'd be reassigned.

So the cadre that took the test first shared the answers with everyone else.

The tests had basically NOTHING to do with missiles, missile maintenance or missile launching.

The tests were basically busywork for the commanding officers to make themselves look better as they could show off their "PERFECT" scores.

As for the Su-34, it's rumored that one crashed in great shapes in 2022 and went on a trip to Groom Lake to be taken apart by the National Air and Space Intelligence Center. Then about a year later after Patriots start showing up Su-34s start getting shot down in greater numbers.....

It certainly isn't 100 but possibly ~20-30 as of now.

The Su-34M is needed as the initial version has probably had its ECM compromised.

 

[The Ugly One]

You mean since 1974.

No, I don't. That was an analog system similar to the German FLER and American M16E1 systems. However, while we're talking about the analog age, the USSR wasn't able to field those in large numbers, and the T-72 didn't get the 1A33 system in the T-64B, unlike the Leopard 1 and M60, which did get those aforementioned systems. The digital age doesn't happen until the Leopard 2 and M1A1 roll out, right around the same time. The T-90 series brings Russia into the digital age, and there's been a long process of upgrading their tank fleet with digital systems from about 2000-present.

I hope so too. But when the US Secretary of Defense comes out yesterday and says "If Ukraine falls, I really believe that NATO will be in a fight with Russia" it makes me not so sure. I'd like to think cooler heads and logic will prevail, but this is the Neocon way and they control most of both major parties.

That being said, it has to be done. If our world doesn't go multipolar the absolute insanity will never end. I mean, it probably still won't end, but at least it gives a fighting chance for some.

I really hope our leaders aren't that retarded, but they are unbelievably stupid.

 

[Uncle Holter]

And then you wake up to reality where Sweden is just about to join NATO. Care to guess who is going to be paying the increased military budget?

And you think people aren't grumbling over this? Wages have barley gone up and costs have skyrocketed, there's tons of foreign criminals and even the foreigners who aren't criminals sure as hell won't fight for "us" since they left their own homes to avoid fighting.

The more the ZOG puppets in power completely ignore the interests of the people and sign us up for the empire of evil at pretty much the worst possible timing, the easier it will be to get the masses to wake up and see that democracy is just a big scam. When they are poor and have nothing much left to lose, they are the most open to enlightenment and armed resistance and the regime is the lest powerful to be able to put it down.

Edit: Added a nice song to keep the theme of RAC music going, this one is in German however and it's called Tot dem imperium(death to the empire).

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

True, but politicians in Baltics claim that if we don't stop Putin, then they are next.

This is akin to fugly 3/10's saying that because of the patriarchy, they are afraid to leave the house every day because they are always a hairsbreadth away from being raped by packs of roving men salivating for a taste of their ugly unwashed poon.

AKA thinly disguised fantasy retelling of reality

 

[Susanna]

The baltics used to be home to Soviet high-tech manufacturing. Computers and such.
Used to be. These days all they are is a source of noise. Any value from invading them would be for the EU, as it would stop embarrassing bluster from the likes of fucking Lithuania. Russia proper doesn’t give a fuck as long as they don’t mistreat their Russian minorities (which they do, but they’re not to the point of bombing them, yet).

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

The baltics used to be home to Soviet high-tech manufacturing. Computers and such.
Used to be. These days all they are is a source of noise. Any value from invading them would be for the EU, as it would stop embarrassing bluster from the likes of fucking Lithuania. Russia proper doesn’t give a fuck as long as they don’t mistreat their Russian minorities (which they do, but they’re not to the point of bombing them, yet).

Crime rate in the EU would significantly drop as well. Virtually all contact I've had with Latvians and Lithuanians has been in the context of them being criminal scumbags

 

[Procopius]

on Xitter rn, lots of discussion about a supposed discussion between German military officers about how best to blow up the Crimea bridge and such like.

Here's a Google Translate version of the article minus all the Telegram quotes which just appear for me as little boxed with the message "This channel can’t be displayed because it violated local laws."

Editor-in-chief of Sputnik and RT Margarita Simonyan published a transcript of the conversation between high-ranking officers of the German army who discussed the attack on the Crimean bridge.

The conversation took place on February 19, and the plans were discussed by the Chief of the Operations and Training Department of the German Army Air Force Command, Greffe, Air Force Inspector Gerharz, and associates of the Fenske and Fronstadt Air Operations Center.

One of the officers mentioned that a visit to Ukraine is planned on February 21 to coordinate attacks on facilities in Russia.

Highlights from the transcript:

- the Air Force inspector who participated in the conversation allowed the possibility of delivering 100 "Taurus" missiles to Kyiv in two batches;
- German soldiers considered the possibility of attacking with those missiles with the help of "Dassault Rafale" fighters;
- the representative of the Bundeswehr said that the "Taurus" missiles intended for Ukraine would be ready for use in eight months;
- one of the interview participants expressed doubts whether the attack on the bridge would be effective and asked how many rockets would be needed: "it would take more than 10 and 20 rockets";

Let us recall that the issue of the delivery of "Taurus" missiles to Kiev in Germany has been actively discussed recently.

The Bundestag recently adopted a draft resolution on the delivery of long-range weapons, but without specifying the type of weapon .

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has repeatedly stated that he is against those deliveries.

The officers, whose conversation was published by Simonjan, also discuss this, and one of them says that "no one knows why the chancellor is blocking these deliveries".

Zakharova: Hybrid war against Russia in full swing​

The spokesperson of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Maria Zakharova, responded.

"The hybrid war launched by the West against the Russian people is in full swing," Zakharova wrote on Telegram.

Medvedev: Germans sworn enemies again​

The Deputy President of the Security Council of Russia, Dmitry Medvedev, commented on the recording of the conversation between German officers about plans to attack the Crimean bridge. "Our arch-enemies have turned into sworn enemies again," he said.

"I don't know how to diplomatically react to the recording of the Bundeswehr officer's conversation about the strikes on the Crimean bridge. The slogan from the time of the Second World War is relevant again: 'Death to the German fascist occupiers!' ", he said.

 

[kuuu]

And you think people aren't grumbling over this? Wages have barley gone up and costs have skyrocketed, there's tons of foreign criminals and even the foreigners who aren't criminals sure as hell won't fight for "us" since they left their own homes to avoid fighting.

The more the ZOG puppets in power completely ignore the interests of the people and sign us up for the empire of evil at pretty much the worst possible timing, the easier it will be to get the masses to wake up and see that democracy is just a big scam. When they are poor and have nothing much left to lose, they are the most open to enlightenment and armed resistance and the regime is the lest powerful to be able to put it down.

I wish I was this optimistic.

 

[Uncle Holter]

I wish I was this optimistic.

It's your own choice in the end, like Null often sees. "Don't be a negative Nancy, no one like a negative Nancy, be a positive Polly"

I think he's right, and even if things are fucked beyond all hope, nothing changes since the only option we have is to do our duty and do everything we can to save our people, laying down and giving up is no choice. If you feel too weak, just listen to Hitler tell you over and over again that;

The most precious possession you have in this world is your own people. And for this people, and for the sake of this people, we will struggle and fight, and never slacken, never tire, never lose courage, and never lose faith. -Adolf Hitler

 

[blackjack101]

I still dont know how this F-16 shit will get resolved, let's say they do withstand bombing because short range air defenses cover them and Russia manages to capture northern Ukraine. Will the Russians do anything if Ukraine's F-16s launch air to ground missiles from NATO's airspace, can they choose to shoot them down in NATO's airspace with SAMs or air to air missiles if they don't choose to bomb NATO's runways hosting the aircrafts?

 

[Fapcop]

I still dont know how this F-16 shit will get resolved, let's say they do withstand bombing because short range air defenses cover them and Russia manages to capture northern Ukraine. Will the Russians do anything if Ukraine's F-16s launch air to ground missiles from NATO's airspace, can they choose to shoot them down in NATO's airspace with SAMs or air to air missiles if they don't choose to bomb NATO's runways hosting the aircrafts?

Eventually they need to cross into Ukrainian airspace, and that’s when they’ll get targeted.

The alternative is to just bomb them in the airbase where they are at.

Even Poland can’t claim that bombing a Ukrainian plane flewn by Ukrainian pilots that is attacking Russian targets, isn’t a valid target just because it’s on a Polish airfield.

 

[01169]

The most precious possession you have in this world is your own people. And for this people, and for the sake of this people, we will struggle and fight, and never slacken, never tire, never lose courage, and never lose faith. -Adolf Hitler

This sounds like something a hohol would say.

How are you dealing with this whole RAC/European right winger supporting Ukraine thing? Last time I checked they were globohomo.

 

[Fapcop]

This sounds like something a hohol would say.

Also sounds like something Putin would say.

Or anyone with common sense really. Protecting your people and ensuring their prosperity is a natural human instinct and why we used to have actual leaders.

How are you dealing with this whole RAC/European right winger supporting Ukraine thing? Last time I checked they were globohomo.

There’s the real right wing, which tends to be isolationist in these matters, and the chucked globo homo right wing, which serves the same function and the never trump GOP. It’s the other asscheek of the same corrupt ass.

 

[Uncle Holter]

This sounds like something a hohol would say.

I don't think a Hohol would say something like that, they are fighting for a Jew and the Jewish world order. They would never do that if they had any understanding of what Hitler was all about.

How are you dealing with this whole RAC/European right winger supporting Ukraine thing? Last time I checked they were globohomo.

It was a Jewish psyop that to some degree backfired on them. I remember being chocked back in 2014 when the media all of a sudden started portraying "Nazis" in Ukraine in a positive light and there was some Swedish "nationalists" that went over there to learn and/or fight. If some "Nazis" are so fucking braindead that they want to go over to Ukraine and be blown to bits to fight a war for Jews then we are better off without them. The media all of a sudden giving positive portraits of nationalism and far right movements during that period did open up the door for the alt right phenomenon in the following years, hence why I called it a blunder.