What the heck happened to Britain? - From ruling a third of the world to ruled by the third world

[Xarpho's Return]

I find it impressive that Britain, a small, foggy island on what was once considered the edge of the world, became a world powerhouse, with holdings on every continent, with stuff like "the Sun never sets on the British Empire", considered high culture, civic pride, and so forth.

But something happened at some point where they not only lost their territory except for their own island and a bunch of irrelevant dots floating in the Atlantic and Pacific...while the homeland is known for being an authoritarian shithole and letting people who are definitely not British (or even white, something at least the Germans would've done) run the show.

How did a once-mighty nation and people come to this? Were just all the people who cared and could do something about it killed off in the wars?

 

[Schwarzwald]

I apologize for being pedantic, but I noticed a small typo in your post.

Britain, a small, faggy island

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Were just all the people who cared and could do something about it killed off in the wars?

By and large, yeah. The people responsible for the destruction of empires never fight in wars themselves.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

they won ww2 and aint speakin german.

 

[Gog & Magog]

they won ww2 and aint speakin german.

True. They speak many more languages now like Swahili, Chinese, Pashtun, Arabic, Polish, and Hindi among others.

 

[Londo]

The Labour Party raped this nation, and opened a floodgate of Muslims and the third world. Now its crippled by hate speech laws. Please nuke this island.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

they won ww2 and aint speakin german.

They got drunk, picked a fight with Germany, lost, then got Russia and America to bail them out, not realizing that they were signing up to be the aforementioned countries' bitch.

 

[AgendaPoster]

But something happened at some point where they not only lost their territory except for their own island and a bunch of irrelevant dots floating in the Atlantic and Pacific...while the homeland is known for being an authoritarian shithole and letting people who are definitely not British (or even white, something at least the Germans would've done) run the show.

Liberalism happened. Also contrarianism. Germany and allies were fascist. So the opponents went mad with rage at national socialism and all associated acts, and started to instinctively oppose whatever they did.
The whole West has constructed an origin myth of "Vanquishing Evil" from the WW2 victory, and literally all the composing countries, plus other idiots like Russia/allies, exist as opponents to ethnic nationalism in all its forms.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Liberalism happened. Also contrarianism. Germany and allies were fascist. So the opponents went mad with rage at national socialism and all associated acts, and started to instinctively oppose whatever they did.
The whole West has constructed an origin myth of "Vanquishing Evil" from the WW2 victory, and literally all the composing countries, plus other idiots like Russia/allies, exist as opponents to ethnic nationalism in all its forms.

Liberalism was the ideology of Britain when it ruled a quarter of the Earth, invented the modern world and was the workshop of the world.
Fascism was the ideology of Germany, Japan and Italy when they burned and were defeated so decisively they became puppets of nations like Britain. An ideology of strength and war that failed to last even thirty years before it was annihilated in war.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Liberalism was the ideology of Britain when it ruled a quarter of the Earth, invented the modern world and was the workshop of the world.
Fascism was the ideology of Germany, Japan and Italy when they burned and were defeated so decisively they became puppets of nations like Britain. An ideology of strength and war that failed to last even thirty years before it was annihilated in war.

A common mistake people make is conflating ideology with success in war.
WW2 had nothing to do with liberalism, but with the US and USSR being large/rich and overwhelming the Axis, who got carried away by their own farts and thought the Ubermensch can defeat the Russian horde dying by the millions while the US churned away military gear protected by 2 oceans and not being under attack.
A critical miscalculation, and incredibly idiotic.
Stop invading Russia.
Stop invading it in the winter.
Stop fucking around with Lebensraum.
Mind your own population and country.

 

[Butterschmalz]

 

[David Brown]

So this fat alcoholic retard took a shitload of loans and well one thing led to another

 

[DiscoRodeo]

Its a very complex subject and a long story,

but all Putin memes aside, you'd have to start with the leadup to the first world war.

The British Empire at the time was facing its own internal problems, with increasing emphasis on home rule, its own burgeoning nationalist movements in crown colonies, and movements for autonomy in places like India really beginning (famine being a big cause).

You could make the argument, looking at the arguments that British tories made, that entering world war 1 was meant to actually reunify the commonwealth, be a short affair, and give Britain a new victory and new uniting mythos.

It backfired entirely.

I think that the following 20th century was really just the British Empire trying to keep the cat in the bag from that point onwards and it may have succeeded to a degree, but the idea of a global empire really died after Suez. Once you passed that point, the conquered colonies violently or passively drifted off,

the commonwealth realms like Canada and Australia kind of just did their own thing as they lost the unifying mythos of empire,

And I guess you could say that Britain did reinvent itself as a financial capital and that went fine until maybe the 2000s with Blair and his own brand of neoliberalism (you could point out Thatcher as having her own problems as well, but at least she was of the old guard), and I don't need to comment much about the state of Britain today after that.

I think that the sad thing is that a lot of the former realms of the empire ironically probably had their golden age while under the British empire, and the British leaving has really fucked a lot of areas, though theyre loathe to admit it, like most of Africa and I think you could make a fair case that the British did actually bring order to chunks of the middle east as well,

and also kept the Indians out.

 

[FuckedOffToff]

Well, it all started when a one Lord Rothschild made it back to Britain first, and told everyone at the London Stock Exchange that Napoleon had won at Waterloo.
As the Stock Market catastrophically crashed, Rothschild bought everything up, to help all his friends out.
24 hrs later, the next group of men started to trickle in from the battle, victorious, and broke the news, and as the Stock Market rebounded, making Rothschild a very, very rich man, a group of suddenly embarrassed aristocrats desperately needed to find money from somewhere, or someone, willing to lend...
This was the beginning of the end for Britain.

 

[The Ugly One]

The British failed at literally everything that they had over America in the 20th century. They lost their empire, mostly to us, the pound sterling got replaced by the dollar, their auto industry collapsed, they suck at sports (despite inventing team sports and the predecessors of every American sport except basketball), and their navy is a joke. Even heavy metal got taken away, it's pretty much all American, German, and Scandinavian now.

When you used to be on top of the world, and now your former colony is #1, how do you look yourself in the mirror? How do you say, "Nah, we still got it, we're still better than they are?"

You have to find something you can do better than America. The British people figured out what it was - being massive fucking simps for liberalism. First thing they did was socialize medicine, so they can brag about how cheap it is to wait in line for two years. Then in the 1990s, they joyfully gave up their gun rights, laughing at how they'd finally beat America in the race to become a nation of disarmed queers. Then they bent over for mass migration. "See, America! Not only are we disarmed, but we're cucks, too!" Then they started repealing free speech rights they'd enjoyed for like 700 years or some shit. Then they put CCTVs everywhere. Now they finally are beating America something, they are far more cucked and gay that we are, and they're very proud of that.

No matter how gay and retarded America becomes, Britain can become even gayer and more retarded. It's the only thing they have to take pride in any more.

 

[GenericEdgelordSupreme]

Muslims happened. Muslims and faggots.

 

[WelperHelper99]

The British fell when they picked the wrong fight in 1776.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

They sold their economy to the banksters to defeat Napoleon. The banksters liked the idea of an island fortress for colonizing the world with finance. Then the US surpassed Britain in every aspect around 1900 and technology advanced so that island wasn't a very good fortress anymore. Predictably, Britain went bankrupt defeating Germany in World War I and the banksters in their comfy new home in New York City called in the loans and Britain was gradually reduced to a vassal state.

Britain coasted for a while but then they gave too much power to trade unions who couldn't gatekeep themselves from communists so the banksters decided to dismantle the whole thing and installed Margaret Thatcher who sold what was left of Britain's assets. Then they took over the unions and made them praise infinimmigration and think neoconservatism wasn't so bad and installed Tony Blair and that was it for the Bri'ish. Now they are an authoritarian hellscape where the bobbies arrest you for mean posts on Xitter while tranny methheads compete with Muzzies for grooming children. They freaked out at a man as milquetoast as Boris Johnson becoming prime minister whose only achievement was mass lockdowns and torpedoing a peace deal for the Ukraine which today is looking like the absolute best the Ukraine might achieve.

What a failure of a country.

Liberalism happened. Also contrarianism. Germany and allies were fascist. So the opponents went mad with rage at national socialism and all associated acts, and started to instinctively oppose whatever they did.
The whole West has constructed an origin myth of "Vanquishing Evil" from the WW2 victory, and literally all the composing countries, plus other idiots like Russia/allies, exist as opponents to ethnic nationalism in all its forms.

The weird thing is that myth didn't develop until the 1960s when the West had to deal with communist subversion and accusations by the USSR/their useful idiots that they were fascists in disguise. The US had the Civil Rights Movement, Britain had decolonization (which incidentally in Northern Ireland actually was called the "Civil Rights Movement"). The Long March through the institutions began in that decade, so that's where World War II was reanalyzed as a glorious crusade against evil, Hitler became the devil (whose ultimate sin was the Holocaust which was promoted from being just another awful thing Hitler did to being the single most important tragedy in history), and the West became the champions of liberty. The boomers/everyone born after 1940 who barely remembered the war ate that shit up.

and also kept the Indians out.

LMAO no they didn't, the British Empire imported them to Africa and the Caribbean by the boatload. People say Idi Amin was a bad dude and he kinda was, but keep in mind that before he kicked the Indians out of Uganda they pretty much owned the entire economy.

 

[im5!XxhO]

All empires decline even those built on snobbery, pretentious accents and tea. I find it hard to identify a single chain of events that if changed would have sustained the empire for significantly longer.

Also a lot of the immigration happened after the empire was already in free fall and basically broke after world war 2.

 

[Magicat]

Britain suffers from genocide and oppression guilt, and doesn't have the spine to take responsibility, so it sold its soul to the burger states, adopting their policies to "pay for Britain's crimes". Britain probably copes it'll be safe from criticism behind the bigfatburger.

Almost all negative things about Britain were imported over from across the pond.