Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Stupid Lisa Garbageface]

Perverted fucking TIMs breastfeeding infants has really gotten under my skin tonight. It's a horrible truth that there's always been sexual abuse of children but Christ it didn't used to be fucking celebrated.

 

[Dambusters' Dog II]

Has there ever been cases in history regarding AGP? Is AGP really a new disorder?

Not as early as Anasa Tristis's example, but AGPs used to call themselves crossdressers (CDs) or transvestites (TVs). For some reason the abbreviation always has to be the same as a piece of technology. In the mid-to-late twentieth century the place the public would have heard of them was from replies to women writing in to newspapers and magazines about their husbands or sons stealing their underwear. Freud's theory about homosexuality was considered refuted by then. Here are some examples that I originally found on a website that considered them to be good propaganda in favour of troons.
A husband stealing his wife's underwear, from Dear Abby, 9th July 1969:

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DEAR ABBY: This is for "Too Much Ironing," who complained about having to iron her husband's undershorts:
Dear Madam: You really have high-class problems. I wonder if you know how lucky you are? I would gladly iron 7, 10 or 20 pair of shorts every week if my husband would leave my panties alone.
When I first found out that my husband was snitching my panties to wear under his shorts I was bewildered and sick. How long he had been doing this I didn't know, but I'm sure it must have been most of the 11 years we had been married because when I look back, a lot of things make sense now that didn't some time ago.
My first reaction was to pack my bags and leave him, but there were three good reasons why I stayed. They are three adorable children who deserve a father and a mother, and as long as God gives me strength I'll keep my home together, until our children are on their own.
I am not a martyr nor do I enjoy being married to one I consider less than a man. Love and respect for him have flown out the window and my marriage has become a "job" and nothing more.
So, to "Too Much Ironing," I say "Keep that iron hot, lady, and don't complain."
- "OLD AT 35"

DEAR OLD: Since this problem is so close to you, I am amazed that you have not made an honest effort to learn more about it instead of flatly condemning that which you do not understand.
A man who secretly wears feminine attire is a "transvestite." And tho it may seem unbelieveable to you, a transvestite is NOT necessarily a homosexual. So when you describe your husband as something "less than a man" you may be doing him a disservice.

A woman discovers her husband's long-established autogynephilia, Ann Landers, 29th January 1978:

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It doesn't have to mean the marriage is over

Dear Ann Landers: I was married four years ago to a man I thought I knew very well. We went together for three years. He is 32 and I am 28.
Rob never showed any signs of not being normal. He is a terrific lover, adores tennis, sailing and is a champion bowler. Our life together was great until last week when I discovered a suit-case filled with women's clothes, wigs, high heels, makeup - the works. When I questioned Rob, he said they were costumes and junk left over from his college drama days. Then one night I returned from Toledo unexpectedly on an earlier plane. I caught him dressed up in a sequin gown, platform heels, a blonde wig looking just beautiful.
He confessed he had been dressing up for some time - but swore he had never gone out in public that way. He says he gets a big kick out of it and hopes I will understand.
Well - I DON'T understand. We have two lovely children. Rob is a wonderful father and husband. Our sex life is fine. He is an attorney and does very well.
Is he a closet homosexual? Do you think he has a boyfriend on the side? What should I do? - Zonked
Dear Z.: Your husband is a tranvestite. I have read a great deal about transvestism these last few months and have come to the conclusion, belatedly, I'm sorry to say, that very few are homosexuals. These men get their jollies dressing up. They are very much aware of their maleness and have no wish to be females, nor do they want to experience sex with other men.
Most transvestites are married and have families. Their wives say they are wonderful husbands and fathers. I suggest that you get some counseling so you can adjust to and cope with the situation.

Mother discovers her large adult son's autogynephilia, Claire Rayner in the Sunday Mirror, 20th November 1983:

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Shocking Surprise in My Son's Room
I have an unmarried son, aged 30, still living at home. He goes in for sport, and drinks with his mates. He always gets on well with girls.
My world was turned upside down when I decided to spring-clean his bedroom. Imagine the shock when I found women's fancy undies and a wig. Does this mean my son is "gay"? If I could understand his problem it would make it easier.
Are many mothers faced with this? Is it more common than I think it is?
Claire says:
Yes, it is common, and yes, lots of mothers have to face this, and no, he's not "gay". He's a crossdresser - a man with transvestite needs - in common with many men.
They often are the very sporty types who find it difficult to express the natural, softer side of their natures.
So they dress harmlessly in the clothes of the opposite sex as a way of releasing their need to be gentle.
They hurt no-one, damage no-one, exploit no-one. Their need is a quiet, personal thing, and one that the majority of transvestites cope with very well.
The best thing you can do, is tell your son about your find. He might be relieved to know he can share his secret with you.

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In the married cases, it seems clear that the husband is using the children to keep his wife as a domestic servant while he spends his copious free time on being a sex weirdo. It's a bit of a mystery to me why these columnists seem to have an implied mission to defend and promote sexual perversion as much as possible. I used to think that they ended up doing it because they had to coddle the person writing in to encourage more people to do it, but that's clearly not the case here, as they're insisting the person writing in is wrong.

 

[Not A Bunny]

I love how "trans acceptance" is as simple as "someone is trans, you must accept them".

What if the trans person was an asshole before they declared themselves trans?

So if I do something that someone else doesn't like, I can just say I was trans while I did it, so they have to accept it and pat me on the back?

 

[deermeat]

I love how "trans acceptance" is as simple as "someone is trans, you must accept them".

What if the trans person was an asshole before they declared themselves trans?

So if I do something that someone else doesn't like, I can just say I was trans while I did it, so they have to accept it and pat me on the back?

No if someone is an asshole, a rapist, or whatever fucked up deranged human being prior to transition, you have to accept them regardless.
This is their logic. I used to follow an abuse-support blog and one day they went off how "you should never misgender your abuser" comparing being misgendered to "abuse". Never felt so disgusted looking at a blog. So fucking vile. Yet not an uncommon mindset for these subhuman degenerates.

People wonder WHY anyone would use being trans as an advantage because it "makes life harder". In what way does it make life harder? You are living on easy mode. Name any other movement that gives you special privileges and absolves you of any wrong doing. You can freely be a rapist. You can freely be a pedophile. Ypu can beat women. You can be an absolute menace and a burden to society, yet since you are trans people will come support you no matter what. You can literally abuse someone and then all you have to do is imply the person is a TERF if they ever speak up about it.

 

[Arpharp8976Fire]

Something that’s always bothered me about troons is how so many gravitate towards children’s things like cartoons and games. Last year a troon won a huge pokemon TCG tournament and then later on another won a huge yugioh tournament that same year. This was, of course, paraded around by troons and effeminate sycophantic faggots for a few weeks because troons are sore winners. That whole time I’m just wondering how that’s a win for troons, those are games primarily designed for kids?

It doesn’t stop there, there’s a plethora of memes and edits of children’s cartoon characters saying trans rights as well. They always seem to use children’s cartoons for everything and cling to them as well for an identity.

It hurts the MTF cause. Not very ladylike for a woman to win a Pokemon and Yugioh tournament (marketed and targeted towards icky boys)

 

[Anasa Tristis]

Yes, it is common, and yes, lots of mothers have to face this, and no, he's not "gay". He's a crossdresser - a man with transvestite needs - in common with many men.
They often are the very sporty types who find it difficult to express the natural, softer side of their natures.
So they dress harmlessly in the clothes of the opposite sex as a way of releasing their need to be gentle.
They hurt no-one, damage no-one, exploit no-one. Their need is a quiet, personal thing, and one that the majority of transvestites cope with very well.
The best thing you can do, is tell your son about your find. He might be relieved to know he can share his secret with you.

Thanks for those. History doesn't repeat, but it sure does rhyme. Ya gotta love the proto-handmaiden sentiments: They're not perverts! They're harmless! It's a need! A secret to share!

Maybe some of those men were content with just dressing up in private and didn't harbor full blown AGP dreams. But if the acceptance and biotech (and porn) was more readily available like it is today, I bet many would have trooned out. And blown those marriages and families to bits like they do now.

 

[Kumquat]

I came across this post in the "trannies posting their L's online" thread, and I wrote up this big autistic and slightly personal blog post, but then I figured it would be better suited for this thread. Feel free to throw a bunch of puzzle pieces at me, but it's just something I felt like typing out regardless.

Lil' pooner in that post mentions this at the end of her wish-I-had-a-dick post: "I'm trying to focus on what will get better though, instead of the things that I'll never be able to have."

If anybody wants to know why I almost exclusively post in the stinkditch board and why I get so vitriolic against trannies (aside from the obvious reason of them being all narcissistic, degenerate skullfucks) it's because, honestly, I see a lot of myself in them, and it drives me insane with both grief and anger seeing them go through the same shit I did when I was younger.

I won't powerlevel too much here, but I mentioned before and I'll mention it again, I was a pretty effeminate guy growing up. I still am, in a few ways. I cry at movies, sometimes even music, never cared much for sports, or cars, or mechanical things, big fan of nature and beauty, very agreeable and averse to conflict. Those may or may not be what some people consider feminine, but regardless, I was someone who didn't really fit in with other boys my age. Even now, when my male co-workers are off talking about sports or cars or other "guy" things, I have to be the one to bashfully admit "I'm, uh, not really into that stuff...." Conversely, I could talk your ear off about music, about my favorite artists, about how things like key changes and tone and dissonance are the coolest shit ever, and my male friends will just kind of look at me like a weirdo. It's like... I get it. I really do. I understand those feelings more than you think.

There was a time when I was in my 20s that I genuinely wished I could be a woman. I fell into that same sort of funk that a lot of these men do, where they think being a woman will make their life easier. I thought I'd fit in more with women, I thought my love life would be fixed, I thought my hobbies would be more appreciated, I thought a lot of things. Was this stupid of me to think? Yeah, in hindsight, it was. Yes, men on average tend to behave a certain way, and I certainly didn't behave that way, but that doesn't mean they're not men. Somewhere along the way, I realized the same thing this pooner is saying. I realized "why the fuck am I wasting my time obsessing over things that will never be?"

I eventually realized that nothing will ever get better by sitting here imagining a fantasy scenario that will never be reality. I realized that I could sit here and wish to be a woman, or wish to be more masculine, or wish for anything all damn day long, but it will never, ever happen. Why waste time obsessing over it? It won't fix anything. It won't change the reality of my life. It will only serve to make me more miserable and depressed. Somewhere along the line, I just had an epiphany, and I slowly learned to stop caring about stuff that will never be true. I talked to more people, and I started to realize as well that my very male-brained imagination on a woman's life was just childish fantasy, that women have their own struggles and disadvantages that I, as a man, could never understand. I realized I had a "grass is greener" view on it, when in reality, it would just be trading one set of problems for another, problems that I would not be equipped to deal with. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

The trannies rile me up so much, because I sit here and wonder, if things had been different, could that have been me? If I had met different kinds of people, the wrong kinds of people, could I have been persuaded to pursue "transitioning?" If my upbringing wasn't the same, could I have been in that same position as they are? I think about this, and I realize it very well could have been, and I imagine then the converse is true for the trannies as well. If things had been just a little bit different, could they have lived more normal lives? Could they have been dissuaded from transitioning had things been just slightly altered?

I know I vacillate wildly between hatred and sympathy for trannies a lot, but at bottom, I think the core feeling I have towards them is pity. Not exactly sympathy, just... pity. I pity them greatly. So much wasted potential. So close to that same epiphany I had, but throwing it away to keep sinking into the delusion. So much that could have been, but wasn't, and likely never will be. They are a perfect representation of the human condition, how one can be completely and utterly broken so as to be reduced to worthlessness. A tragic tale of how a series of unfortunate events can lead to total ruin and devastation. A constant reminder that, at some point in life, you can either pick yourself up and carry on, or you can become the tranny, wallowing in your own self-pity and delusion.

Yeah, I'm probably slightly autistic, but fuck it. This is the only place on the internet where I'm allowed to talk about this shit and not be instantly banned, so I'm kind of taking that privilege and running with it.

 

[TruffleSpark]

So I got into an online argument with a TRA that stated this"Not everyone who is transgender gets gender dysphoria, that was why they changed the term, and not everyone who gets gender dysphoria decides to transition either. It’s just a big decision someone else makes for themselves that doesn’t change your life at all from before. " I've realized a lot of the science behind transgenderism is so contradicting that its gotten to the point where I have to ask how anyone can make sense of it.If being trans is so complex to the point where they can make many different statements such as "You dont need dysphoria to be trans, but if you're dysphoric with your sex then you're trans." or something like "Transgenderism has a neurological basis,but if you demand a CT brain scan then you're a bigot who's gatekeeping people who want to transition regardless." then how can anyone do any research into transgenderism when there is no center idea as to what one needs to be trans?They cant just say "Anyone who says they're trans." because these are the same people who go "The trans person who committed a crime was never trans, and also detrans people were never trans."

The fact that even they can't agree on what transgenderism is might be more of a strength to the movement than a weakness. Hard to debunk an ideology that is so inconsistent that you can't even identify what it is saying. Kettle logic in action:

 

[Jotch]

What would happen if we put all troons on the Island of manhattan and surrounded it with a giant 200 ft metal sci-fi wall?

 

[Wallace]

The fact that even they can't agree on what transgenderism is might be more of a strength to the movement than a weakness. Hard to debunk an ideology that is so inconsistent that you can't even identify what it is saying. Kettle logic in action:
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If transgender cannot be defined, then no criticism against it sticks, as the definition shifts away from the criticism. By the same token, transphobia cannot be defined, so its definition shifts to fit whatever the needs of the moment may be in order to work. This is true of many more weasel words in the progressive lexicon, including 'whiteness' and 'cultural appropriation'. Or even the term 'woman' itself. No one can can give a definition of what a woman is, but it is vitally important that a transwoman is one.

This has obvious utility for those in charge of an authoritarian Marxist state. "You are a criminal because I say you are a criminal. What is your crime? It's not my job to educate you!"

 

[Jacques1194]

The fact that even they can't agree on what transgenderism is might be more of a strength to the movement than a weakness. Hard to debunk an ideology that is so inconsistent that you can't even identify what it is saying. Kettle logic in action:
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Yep, and holy crap when I was looking up what people thought about genders like gender fluid and non binary, I found this quora thread where the first comment is almost admitting that its all a life choice.

 

[TruffleSpark]

Yep, and holy crap when I was looking up what people thought about genders like gender fluid and non binary, I found this quora thread where the first comment is almost admitting that its all a life choice.View attachment 5774858

I can't prove it, but somehow I know that person is also a race faker as well as being a tranny.

Actually pre peaking I followed a troon on twitter (forget his name but bear with me) and he was always talking about how Native American he is, and he was white as the driven snow. Maybe he wasn't 100% lying and he had some native blood in him, but I doubt he grew up on the reservation or anything like that, and his connection to native culture was probably incidental at best. But claiming that identity was central to his identity.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

Seriously.

I love this article. “Well, there’s a clear correlation between autism and transgenders, but who knows why hahaha what a strange coincidence, let’s not read anything into this hahaha.”

The fact that even they can't agree on what transgenderism is might be more of a strength to the movement than a weakness. Hard to debunk an ideology that is so inconsistent that you can't even identify what it is saying. Kettle logic in action:
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It’s how cult rules operate. If the rules are vague and contradictory, the people in charge can create no-win situations for anyone attempting to make sense of it all.

 

[Kumquat]

It’s how cult rules operate. If the rules are vague and contradictory, the people in charge can create no-win situations for anyone attempting to make sense of it all.

It's 100% intentional, but I don't think it's for the reasons you say.

It all just boils down to them knowing that any objective standard would invalidate a significant chunk of their members. If you create an objective standard, then guess what? Some people won't fit that standard, and suddenly you will have definitive proof that some trans people (probably most of them if we're being honest) are faking it for sympathy/diversity/malicious intent. This is why they cannot come up with a logical answer for the "what is a woman?" question. To define the word woman would require an objective standard which we could compare against all self-identified trans people, and you know some of them will not make the cut. Then you will know those ones are faking it, and then suddenly, all those evil transphobe arguments - rapists lie to gain access to women's spaces, you just think you're trans because you went through trauma, you're just faking it for ass-pats, etc. - have real validity and weight to them. Then, suddenly, every tranny will be subject to scrutiny, and the jig is up. No more perving in the women's locker room for you!

The almighty queen of TERFs herself, J.K. Rowling, just put out a banger tweet about this very thing.

Link | Archive



Here, have a fun little visual aid.

Spoiler: What is a woman?

 

[countrybumpkin]

As a former athlete, these types of things make me angry.

 

[LigmaTwatz]

One of my biggest issue with these people is that they have made every website into a safe space for them, online forums are full of fucking troons, and try to nuke anyone that doesn’t support their delusions.
There issues have hit every single systemic level in our our countries (the west), it starts with media outlets covering then to them being diversity hires, to the FDA making drugs specifically for them, to them having the power to control our laws, to controlling what is defined as a “woman”, to them having medical terminology changed to protect their feelings…. I can go on and on.


Medfag here, spoiler for blogpost, when taking classes for womens anatomy the instructor of the curriculum went over how to speak with the MOTHERS in manternity ward, using gender neutral terms like “birthing persons” and “menstruating people”. She would derail the lectures to tell us about the LGBTQIA and how they’re being discriminated against. I fucking kid you not, i found the instructors FB and to my utter shock she has a “daughter” who transitioned at 13 to a “man” the instructor is a cow in her own right, but to teach the future of the healthcare profession with gender ideology is so wrong, I absolutely can’t wait for a rot pocket arch with this stupid woman. Her husband is a fat blob and probably an alcoholic

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Perverted fucking TIMs breastfeeding infants has really gotten under my skin tonight. It's a horrible truth that there's always been sexual abuse of children but Christ it didn't used to be fucking celebrated.

It would be bad enough if troons were feeding infants poisonous discharge from their man tits, but what's worse is that at least one of them admitted to be HIV positive.

 

[deermeat]

It would be bad enough if troons were feeding infants poisonous discharge from their man tits, but what's worse is that at least one of them admitted to be HIV positive.

Imagine being a baby who was given HIV through being forcefully breastfeed by your dad and not only did no one stop your dad, but also tried to rallied to support it. You were given no chance at a better life. No ability to avoid all of this because you were a baby.

The good thing about all of this is that the lawsuits and public outcry will be too much. It will be an explosion, these freaks will get punished. The victims affected the most are still young, whether it be the kids of trans parents or people who medically transition believing it is for the best. We are at the peak of trans insanity and things can only get better, not worse. The pendulum has already began to swung.

 

[Kumquat]

One of my biggest issue with these people is that they have made every website into a safe space for them, online forums are full of fucking troons, and try to nuke anyone that doesn’t support their delusions.

The irony is that this is also the thing that is peaking so many people against trannies. There's virtually nowhere left to go that's safe from trannies. Any hobby or activity that you enjoy? There's probably a tranny there, and the tranny just can't wait to inject his narcissism into everything. Talk about me! I'm super special! Give me ass pats and back rubs!

It's making the rest of normal society resent them, because they just cannot keep to themselves. Think of all the degenerate groups of people in the world. BDSM fetishists, furries, swingers, nobody gives a fuck about these people, because they, unlike trannies, aren't forcing themselves into everyone else's space and making it all about them. Hell, even drag queens - prior to being inducted into the LGBT alliance - have existed for decades in their own little clubs and nobody gave a shit. The tranny's insistence on subverting every last hobby on Earth is eventually going to be their downfall, because while people can tolerate stupidity and degeneracy to an insane degree, what they absolutely will not tolerate is those same stupid, degenerate fucks demanding our participation in their insanity.

 

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