Culture Lots of People Make Money on Fanfic. Just Not the Authors - Next year, SenLinYu’s Harry Potter fic Manacled will disappear from Archive of Our Own. They don’t want to take it down, but it’s the only way to keep others from profiting off of the work.


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Of the 12.5 million works currently hosted on the fan fiction hub Archive of Our Own, SenLinYu’s Manacled ranks as the second-most-read on the entire site—but you won’t be able to read it there for much longer.

A dark romance between Harry Potter’s Hermione Granger and Draco Malfoy set in a Handmaid’s Tale-esque world, the more than 350,000-word story has garnered millions of hits since it was first published in 2018. A fair portion of these readers have come from outside fan fiction communities; as it’s cycled through corners of BookTok and BookTube and been chosen for romance book clubs, many cited it as their introduction to fanfic.

Like many popular fan fiction stories, Manacled has spawned a fandom of its own. Other fans have translated it into two dozen languages, written remixes, drawn fan art, and more. But it has also spawned a commercial fandom: On sites like Etsy and Mercari, you can find Manacled merch like sweatshirts and jewelry. Perhaps most importantly, you can buy bound copies of the story itself, some of which can go for hundreds of dollars. Seemingly anyone can make money off this viral hit—except its author.

Earlier this month, SenLinYu announced they’d signed a deal with Del Rey, an imprint of Penguin Random House, for a novel called Alchemised. “It will grapple with themes of trauma and survival, legacy, and the way that love can drive one to extreme darkness,” they wrote. “And it is, as you may be able to tell, a reimagined version of Manacled.” Explaining the broad changes between old and new versions—namely, swapping Harry Potter’s magical world for an original one—SenLinYu said Manacled itself will stay up through the end of the year, “at which point it will, if you’ll pardon the pun, alchemise for 2025 and be removed from AO3.” (The author did not reply to requests for comment on this story.)

THE PRACTICE OF “pulling to publish” has been a part of the fan fiction world for a long time, but prior to the past decade, it largely existed in the shadows. The publishing industry had long been ambivalent about fic (legal questions aside, many of its loudest critics over the years have been famous professional authors), which usually prompted agents and editors to mask any connection a work had to fandom. But pulling to publish—removing one’s story from a site like AO3 to sell it traditionally—has historically been equally disdained by fandom itself, unhappy to see community norms violated and fellow fans profiting off the overwhelmingly nonmonetized practice of writing and sharing fic in the gift economy.

The most famous pull-to-publish fic remains Snowqueens Icedragon’s “Master of the Universe,” aka the TwilightAll Human AU” that became E. L. James’ Fifty Shades of Grey. Massive commercial success aside, Fifty Shades was notable because James didn’t hide the trilogy’s origins, thrusting fic into the mainstream in the process. More than a decade later—and amidst a spate of successful pull-to-publish romance novels coming out of the Reylo (Star Wars’ Kylo Ren/Rey) fandom in particular—an old-school fic person might be struck by the straightforwardness of SenLinYu’s post, the idea that a work’s origins as a popular fic might be a selling point, not something to hide.

But the Manacled situation is far thornier—and it illustrates one of the stranger results of the mainstreaming of fan fiction. Because even though SenLinYu had the opportunity to make money off it with a traditional book deal, they write that they didn’t actually want to take Manacled down:

As most of you know, I have been a reader in fandom long before I ever began to write. Fanfiction is incredibly special to me, and I have tried to do my best not to undermine its legal protection or allow my works to do so either. During the last several years, there has been a growing issue with illegal sales of Manacled, putting both me and the incredible community that shares fanfiction freely in legal jeopardy.

After consulting with the OTW [Organization for Transformative Works] as well as other lawyers, it has grown clear that as a transformative writer I have limited options in protecting my stories from this kind of exploitation, but I wasn’t sure what to do; I didn’t want to just take the story down, in part because I worried that might only exacerbate the issue, but I didn’t know what other options I had.

In the weeks following, a spate of other Dramione (the portmanteau for Draco/Hermione) writers announced they were taking their works down for similar reasons. The Dramione subreddit has temporarily banned all talk of fanbinding, as its known—the act of printing out fan fiction to create a traditional, physical book. Popular writer Onyx_and_Elm said they were deleting their works because of “the seemingly unstoppable monetization of fandom and the sheer volume of illegal fan bindings being sold.” Gillianeliza wrote on Instagram, “The issue here isn't just those who are putting mine and my fellow authors [sic] stories up on these storefronts. The issue also lies with the people who are actively purchasing these books—putting hundreds of dollars into the hands of someone who is not only doing something illegal, but also going against the wishes of each and every fanfic author. We do this for free—this is a gift economy and fan fiction should be treated as just that: a gift.”

FANBINDING HAS EXPLODED in popularity in the past few years. Many fanbinders do adhere to a strict gift-economy stance in line with the writers whose work they’re binding, often limiting the money they collect, if any, to covering material costs. But the people selling bound versions of popular fics for profit are cut from a different (book) cloth. As they make money off works the authors themselves cannot sell, they’re putting those authors—and, arguably, fan fiction itself—in an untenable position.

“Technically speaking, the reproduction right belongs to the author of the fic, because that’s the ‘copy right’: They are the only person with the right to make copies of the fic,” says Stacey Lantagne, a copyright lawyer who specializes in fan fiction and teaches at Western New England University School of Law. Even though she notes it “might be considered an unsettled question of law officially,” fic authors do hold the copyright to the original parts of their stories, though of course not the underlying source material.

Is it legal to bind someone else’s fic? “Here is a typical lawyer answer: It depends,” Lantagne jokes. She says “it is likely legal to print someone else’s fanfic for your own personal, noncommercial use,” adding that could likely extend to paying material costs for someone else to bind it, too. “Noncommercial” here is key. Like the legal status of fan fiction itself, the legality of fanbinding rests on fair use, the exception under US copyright law determined by factors like how transformative a work is, or if someone is profiting off it—and taking money away from the rights holder in the process.

FAN FICTION COMMUNITIES have historically relied on good-faith communication when it comes to doing something else with someone’s fic. Nothing’s stopping you from translating, remixing, or creating an audio version (known as podficcing)—or, yes, printing and binding a version, but it’s nice if you ask first. Some writers post blanket permissions allowing any noncommercial engagement with their works, and some, especially in these hyper-popular corners of fandom, have specific guidance about fanbinding. Last year, a charity auction that garnered huge sums of money to bind others’ work led some writers—SenLinYu included—to modify their policies to allow personal, noncommercial fanbinding only.

“Once your fic is no longer on AO3 and is instead being sold on Etsy, you’re outside of community norms now. There is very little way to fully protect anything that’s on the internet. Once it’s out there, it’s out there.”
STACEY LANTAGNE, WESTERN NEW ENGLAND UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF LAW

While plenty of fans have respected their wishes, there is clearly demand for these books—and thus, continued supply. Lantagne says that since litigation is extremely expensive, the only recourse a fan fiction writer likely has in this situation is to file DMCA takedown notices, a very tedious process when there are multiple sellers on multiple sites. “This is what copyright holders have been complaining about ever since the DMCA was passed in the late 1990s—it’s a pain to have to file a DMCA notice everywhere copyright infringement crops up,” she says. “However, the alternative is something like YouTube’s Content ID being used to automatically block uploads, which we know is notoriously bad at accounting for fair use.”

Although illegal sellers obviously deserve a good portion of blame, that continued demand—regardless of fic authors’ wishes—speaks to the way both scale and money has been altering the fan fiction world in recent years. To be clear, there was never one singular “fan fiction community” or universal set of norms, but the widely accepted gift-economy framing has always been undergirded by the fact that many fan fiction readers are also writers, and stories are shared within fandoms, with all the structural ties they bring. Pulling-to-publish was often framed as a betrayal—we were all in this nonmonetized boat together, and now you’ve jumped ship and cashed in.

THE LAST BIG pull-to-publish wave was in fact the one that brought us Fifty Shades. James’ work was one of many popular Twilight stories that got scrubbed and repackaged for sale. Like a few other Twilight novels, Fifty Shades was eventually traditionally published, but these works were initially sold by presses run by Twilight fans themselves—a trend that was heavily criticized by other fans at the time.

There are obvious parallels with today’s money-and-fan-fiction landscape, but the differences are striking. In the early 2010s, fans were directly monetizing their own work, while today, the power—and the money—rests in the hands of traditional publishers scouring AO3 for hits, and with the illegal binders, selling others’ works for their own profit. The latter presents a strange sort of workaround to the classic “You can’t make money off your fic”—even as money changes hands, the fic author still doesn’t see any of it.

The ever-increasing reach of fan fiction has inched the practice away from text-written-in-community to a more traditional author-reader relationship—and the context collapse that’s come with viral works being treated like any other romance novel has spurred clashes between different types of readers with different sets of expectations.

In the past few years, fic authors across all corners of fandom have increasingly complained about shifting attitudes from readers who treat them like any other content creator, demanding the next chapter as you might demand your favorite influencer’s next video. But unlike on creative platforms like TikTok and YouTube, the fic writer doesn’t get revenue from their new installment.

Lantagne sees this context collapse as a key factor in the illegal fanbinding situation. “I think that big-name authors might be out of luck when their fan fiction ceases to be fan fiction,” she says. Like a photograph that ends up in a popular meme, it might be protected by copyright, but there’s little that the original photographer can do to remove every infringing use. “Once your fic is no longer on AO3 and is instead being sold on Etsy, you're outside of community norms now. There is very little way to fully protect anything that’s on the internet. Once it’s out there, it’s out there.”

The vast majority of fic will likely never be monetizable, at least not at scale. Its huge range of niche interests and unusual story structures would likely make most work unpalatable to the people trying to make money off fic, whether they’re selling it directly or changing details to remove any connection to the existing canon (known as “filing off the serial numbers”) to publish traditionally. (There’s plenty to say about the sorts of stories the publishing industry is pulling—like Twilight before it, it’s notable that the biggest ships in the pull-to-publish pipeline are heterosexual romances, but that’s a whole other article.)

But the money flowing through the space does affect the entire fic world, even indirectly; just as the mainstream spotlight of Fifty Shades fundamentally altered fandom, these trends are fundamentally altering it again—and as writers are forced to delete their own works to keep pirates from profiting off them, arguably not for the better. Exactly how fan fiction’s next decade will shake out, though? That’s a subject for your future fic.




The internet and its consequences. Fanfic and "shipping" culture was a mistake.
 
George R.R. Martin
it's funny because he's a textbook fanfic writer
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I'm glad you ask. It isn't a secret that GRRM wears his influences in his sleeves and as such the world of ASOIAF is full of references to shit he likes or finds amusing. The obvious examples are Bloodraven being based on Moorcock's Elric of Melnibone, House Dayne drawing from Marvel's Dane Whitman and all the Lovecraft world building in Essos and the Deep Ones that are namedropped as is in ASOIAF. There are also nods to other writers. Robert Jordan has three (a house, its lord and a maester), one of the twats that humiliates Brienne gets a Harry Potter mark, Phyllis Eisenstein's Alaric gets to be a bard.
Then there are the more out there examples like Belicho, George's way of immortalizing the 2007 New England Patriots. Three Bracken guys that helped Catelyn take Tyrion as prisoner are the Three Stooges. House Wyl of Boneway has a black adder in its coat of arms and you probably already guessed what that is a nod to.
But out of all the references George has made the one that has drawn the most ire from the ASOIAF purists that think the story is all grimndark are the Muppet Tullys. It explains itself.
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Two other facts:
1. Kermit Tully is described as being "greener than grass."
2. His younger bro is named Oscar and alongside Benjicot Blackwood they form the Lads, three young Riverland lords that side with the Blacks.
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oh god
i have no idea how it took me so long to realize it

GRRM is a fucking fanfic writer.
revelation
 
But we can't give Rowling credit for anything these days. Zero occurrences of her name in the article. She's apparently now the real Voldemort.
Most of the journos either weren’t paying attention back then or were frankly too young when it happened so they wouldn’t know.

The impact level for the better J.K has had on all aspects of writing that her haters claim to care about would make their heads spin.
 
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Boo fucking hoo. Either take initiative with your illegal fanfic or wait for someone else to capitalize. Should've published with changed names and circulated an unofficial patch if you wanted to sell it in the first world. The more you bitch, the more likely the actual IP owners will take notice and just shut everything down.
 
How, just...HOW did George R.R. Martin even BECOME a published author???????

This guy CANNOT WRITE.

Exhibit A through infinity: Nightflyers.

DO NOT make a drinking game out of how many times Melantha says she's the "iMpRoVeD mOdeL.", or when DeBrannon says "mY vUlCrYn."

But it truly, truly was fucking hilarious when Thale Lassimer's head literally exploded. I'll give the fat boy that one.
 
I am convinced yaoi is the reason the LGBTQAMAP+ shit we see today got so goddamn popular. They used the same buzzwords back then when normal people pointed out how weird it was horny women were projecting their fetishes onto characters from Harry Potter and Pokemon. Now most of those same horny women (who are now heckin' valid nobinary hoes!) are making literature that involve the things they fap to in "educational" materal for young kids and teens. Gotta start them young, after all!
So you're convinced of the near-literal, unvarnished, unironic truth?

See Nina Jankowicz, one-time head of the Department of Homeland Security's Disinformation Board for a similar/less gross example of this kind of weirdness getting into power:


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God knows what exactly she's into, but even if it's not a (ex?-)fujoshi the general point stands.
 
It’s funny to me that anyone is making a huge deal about fanfic & monetization. Fanfic is free, unless discussing commissions , which is a whole different topic. I’m not a fan of selling someone else’s work for your own profit, I think it’s reprehensible, but, if you release it, it’s out, end of story. People other than the author selling bound copies of fanfic for exorbitant prices is rare. Best anyone can do is not dramatize something that happens rarely into a bigger problem than it is. Sensationalizing it as the above article did was simply a matter of having an article to publish. Publishers & other agents have sought works from multiple, strange sources, & fanfic scouting is an old practice. It’s not really impacted by fucking TikTok or whatever. The author could do anything with her old fanfic that her new contract allows, in the future. Anyone could go to Ao3 & download her story, now, or it could be mirrored all over. My Immortal is hosted all over, despite the (disputed) author removing it. Wired must be desperate for articles at the moment to attempt to make this very specific outlier of a case into some big money thing. Fanfic is free & some people rip shit off, or share it once it’s been released.
 
So you're convinced of the near-literal, unvarnished, unironic truth?

See Nina Jankowicz, one-time head of the Department of Homeland Security's Disinformation Board for a similar/less gross example of this kind of weirdness getting into power:


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God knows what exactly she's into, but even if it's not a (ex?-)fujoshi the general point stands.
I don't know which I find more unlikeable - the band's songs being all about toilets (yes, I am aware of Moaning Myrtle's horrid existence as a student killed by a basilisk and then being banished to the Hogwarts Girls' Toilets after she haunted her childhood bully one too many times and ruined her wedding) or Nina's awful voice.
 
The only time I've read good "fanfiction" it was called "writefaggotry" and it was about Techpriest Hunter S. Thompson doing a heroic amount of noospheric techno-drugs and fucking a malfunctioning machine spirit into working again.
You sure you weren’t reading an Ian Watson novel?
 
Fanfictions and the way "communities" have been able to establish themselves thanks to social media/internet is easily the worst thing to ever happen to media in general. All its done is encouraged grifters to control communities filled with brain dead tourist zombies.
 
This is how you end up with shit like Ready Player One, which is literally just a book of references chained together as chapters with a bad plot. He got lucky and retards fell for it. EL James isn't any better with her crap.
 
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It's no coincidence that the amount of faggotry skyrocketed the same time that the massive sharing of media became a thing. I went to a bookstore the other day and saw romance novels with ugly lesbians on the cover. People would have rioted over that sort of thing at one time, but now we just shrug. I for one am glad to see bookstores go the way of the Dodo if all they do is make grooming by pedos and Science Fiction/Fantasy writers (but I repeat myself,) easier.
 
Because even though SenLinYu had the opportunity to make money off it with a traditional book deal, they write that they didn’t actually want to take Manacled down:
Lmao yes she did, the journo is whoreshielding. "didn't actually want to take down" could've applied if the publisher made her do it.

“the seemingly unstoppable monetization of fandom and the sheer volume of illegal fan bindings being sold.”
Hypocritical cunts want to have their tampon and eat it too. The characters, their names, and their distinctive likenesses are not only copyrighted, they're protected by the author's moral rights FOREVER. The cunts gained popularity illegally exploiting and perverting the labor of others, in many cases actively harming the original work (how many people are put off a media work becaue of the gross fandom).

The r/dramione subreddit has over 36k subscribers (mostly female I reckon).
"purchasing Dramione-themed goods (stickers, shirts, mugs)"
...what? Did they declare ownership of the concept of Draco fucking Hermione? Because a picture of the two characters together only steals from Rowling.
Are pirate Harry Potter goods ok? I bet they are! "Fans" make stickers, pins, "standies" (acrylic cutouts), commission "fanart" for absolutely massive amounts of covid money, etc.

People pay for fanfics?!
Not for published ones, they pay for physical pirate goods AND commission fanfics (scarce resources and labor). This would be perfectly rational if not for the moral damage inflicted on the author.

I was scarred for life reading a FanFic a long, long time ago
that was Hogwarts
...oh god I'm old. I remember the dumb "ThE bOy WhO MaDe ThE wOrLd BeLiEvE iN mAgIc" posters in bookstores as if it was yesterday.

it's funny because he's a textbook fanfic writer
I don't like Martin but he isn't and this is not fanfic. It's not "fanfic" to name a character after someone IRL or take a trope such as elves or tentacles or a wizard school. I bet you're furiously fapping to Harry raping Draco in the ass and want to stain everyone else with the same foaming shit.

So you're convinced of the near-literal, unvarnished, unironic truth?
Do you also blame Helen Joyce and the Terves for gayniggers killing gaynigger troon prostitutes?
Yaoi is the pooner side. Pooners have never had any political power, which solely rests with troons. Yes pooners are pedophiles, yes they're everywhere in childcare and children's media, yes they're grooming kids, yes they need to be shot -- but the creatures at the top are troons, who have never given a fuck about the media with nominally male fags in it. They like bimbos, lolis, and troons.

You sure you weren’t reading an Ian Watson novel?
Ian Watson is awesome. Meh'lindi is a top-tier waifu.
 
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Things that make me genuinely sad: the obsession with making every hobby into a 'side hustle' and monetising it.

The enjoyment and value of writing the fanfic used to be in the actual writing of the fic, and it being well received by the fandom. That was the payoff: you contributed to a community that shared things related to something you all liked. In return, you enjoyed the contributions of other people to the community.

The point of fabric and fibre crafts (and name pretty much any other hobby you can here) was for the enjoyment of doing the thing, not to make money off it as a 'content creator' or selling the product itself. Now I know hardly anyone with a serious hobby that isn't at least peddling an Insta about it. I know a dude who literally loses money on his miniature painting business, and he has lost pretty much all his personal hobby time painting other people's spess mehreens in colour schemes he doesn't even like.

I get asked very regularly why I don't do cake decoration as a side business. It's because I don't want to. I do it for myself when I feel like it, and I'm happy to do favours for other people. But I don't want to handle customers and whiny strangers and an order book and all that shit. I just like to quietly mess around with icing.

It's okay to do things for fun and pleasure, and not just for money. Not everything needs to be monetised.
 
People can't admit to shit like this and still pretend that most of the Handmaid's Tale audience isn't masturbating to it
Are you talking about the TV show (which I have never seen). Is it very masturbation-friendly? Because I read the book as a teenager and if you're talking about that I can't see how it's possible.

A more pragmatic approach would be to recognize and work within the way the world actually functions: partner with someone who can publish at a nominal price, with token amounts going to the author and publisher for their time/effort/costs, and satisfying demand at a cheap enough price that people are more likely to do that than either pay a profit-maximizing third party or go to the trouble of pirating it.
Any monetization of fanfic would need to include the original author or whoever the current rights owner to the characters or setting is. (Exception of private commissions, maybe). Perhaps there can be a fanfic licence developed and become something of a standard, needed for commercial distribution of fanfic so that the rights holder gets a cut. Although I have a creeping suspicion that a very high proportion of this fanfic is pornographic so the licence may well be denied by many authors. But that's fine - if someone doesn't want porn versions of their work commercialised, that's pretty understandable.
 
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There’s plenty to say about the sorts of stories the publishing industry is pulling—like Twilight before it, it’s notable that the biggest ships in the pull-to-publish pipeline are heterosexual romances, but that’s a whole other article.)
First off, the number one fic in the Harry Potter fandom is "All the Young Dudes", that has a Wolfstar pairing. The author proudly declared she doesn't support "JKR's disgusting views". M/M fics are 6 million, M/F 3.5 million, and lesbian fics over 1 million. The fic I mentioned also gets book binded and has fanart, so this point is moot. Pooners love big dicked white men. It shows in the largest ships.
Man, I miss the times when people made fun of Cassandra Clare, BNF (big name fan) and subject of lots of drama in HP fandom back in the day, but when she actually got her writing published (The Mortal Instruments), it was at least not her recycled fan fiction.

I also regret clicking on that link for the Draco/Hermione fanfic and reading the tags. I just don't think that would have been popular 20 years ago, but maybe I'm wrong.
Wasn't Cassandra Clare busted for plagiarism, or something?

Her Shadowhunters book series/TV show has a gay pairing front and centre, Magnus Bane/Eric Lightwood.

To answer your question, oh it would've been popular 20 years ago. AO3 just made it easier.
George R.R. Martin, Robin Hobb and Anne Rice have all made their distaste for even free fanfic existing known, possibly even taking legal action. An author is within their rights to do this, even when "done for free."
George initially stated he was against it but eventually relented because of how big it got, especially after the disastrous S8. Plenty of fics fixed that ending. And, surprisingly? A lot less rape than in the show.
was scarred for life reading a FanFic a long, long time ago, maybe even as far back as 20 years ago, though probably not quite that far back, that was Hogwarts being raped by a giant kraken
Lmao that shit would be tame, now. The days of making fun of LOTR elves with purple nipples are over. There are a lot of monster fucker fics out there. Nowadays you'd have pooner Harry getting raped 😆
 
I was scarred for life reading a FanFic a long, long time ago, maybe even as far back as 20 years ago, though probably not quite that far back, that was Hogwarts being raped by a giant kraken. IIRC the Walloping Willow was its clitoris.
Now that's a fic I haven't heard be talked about in a long time. 'Twas a crack ship to make Goku x Anne Frank extremely tame in comparison.
 
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