Mega Rad Gun Thread

I am the dumbest nigger in human history. I broke my makaorv. I broke a slav gun. Legit wanted to clean it and thought oh I'll tighten the trigger apart.

So parts don't fit. I can't get it back together. WHOOPS

All of you cool kids think "wow bassomatic has a lot of guns and knows gun history and reloads he's cool and all" no i'm retarded I can't fix slav shit. (to be fair it's because bad machine work parts don't fit)

I'm such a faggot I hope I die.
It's okay. I'm proud of you working on your own shit. If you want to know a secret, I've broken a lot of gun parts. the most "How the fuck?" being the time I tried to swap out a trigger and hand for an 1851 navy and ended up somehow shearing the trigger to uselessness, bending the hand, and breaking the mainspring with one fell dry fire. Out of a gun with like, 10 parts total, I somehow broke 30% of them.

It happens to the best of us.
 
Been considering picking up a 1911 DS Prodigy from Springfield Armory for my daily carry, mainly the 4.25" model. Anyone here have any experience with them?
I broke my makaorv. I broke a slav gun.
I'm sorry to hear that happened. Hopefully you'll be able to find some replacement parts soon.
If you don't mind me asking, where was it manufactured?
 
hello! I'm autistic, is this a good place to say the M14 is the worst service rifle ever and find other autistic people to have an argument with?
Divest, is that you? I've said M14 is the furthest from free-float hand guard you can get, is that right?
 
Divest, is that you? I've said M14 is the furthest from free-float hand guard you can get, is that right?
what? I don't know what you mean.

I just want to point out all the flaws with the m14 concept and implantation to a person who thinks that because it was adopted as a dmr it wasn't an absolute failure of a weapon.
 
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Too light though, automatic fire was barely controllable
Tim La France, years ago, proved that the M14 would be perfectly controllable with a moderator/brake, an inverted adapted M60 gas system, a modified action with buffer, and possibly a thompson-style forward pistol grip. all this was possible back in the 50's and 60's, but wasn't explored much when the SALVO project was given higher priority than further developing the M14 variations or pursuing the M15 SAW. the folding stock variation of the M14K was abusive to fire in automatic though the pistol grip adaptation (like an AC-556) was a great idea and would have been pretty interesting back in the 60's or 70's and very doable.

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Tim La France, years ago, proved that the M14 would be perfectly controllable with a moderator/brake, an inverted adapted M60 gas system, a modified action with buffer, and possibly a thompson-style forward pistol grip. all this was possible back in the 50's and 60's, but wasn't explored much when the SALVO project was given higher priority than further developing the M14 variations or pursuing the M15 SAW. the folding stock variation of the M14K was abusive to fire in automatic though the pistol grip adaptation (like an AC-556) was a great idea and would have been pretty interesting back in the 60's or 70's and very doable.

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Wasn’t there also a planned SAW version of the M14 with a heavy barrel and a pistol-grip that was decided against adopting because “muh infantry M14 can fill all those roles anyways!”?
 
Tim La France, years ago, proved that the M14 would be perfectly controllable with a moderator/brake, an inverted adapted M60 gas system, a modified action with buffer, and possibly a thompson-style forward pistol grip. all this was possible back in the 50's and 60's, but wasn't explored much when the SALVO project was given higher priority than further developing the M14 variations or pursuing the M15 SAW. the folding stock variation of the M14K was abusive to fire in automatic though the pistol grip adaptation (like an AC-556) was a great idea and would have been pretty interesting back in the 60's or 70's and very doable.

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All that when they could have just adopted an intermediate cartridge like every other army had done or was planning to do. Which plans and adoptions were killed in NATO aligned armies by the US forcing through 7.62 so they could have the best rifle for WW1.
 
All that when they could have just adopted an intermediate cartridge like every other army had done or was planning to do. Which plans and adoptions were killed in NATO aligned armies by the US forcing through 7.62 so they could have the best rifle for WW1.
.280 British was terrible and it's good that it was abandoned
 
Disappointed to hear that. I've been looking for a cheap but reliable decocker, hammer fired 380 in a smaller size for Mrs. Balls. Thought this solved the problem. She carries a Cheetah 84F currently, but is emotionally attached, so wants to swap to another 380 that meets these specs for EDC. Looks like we'll have to go back to seeing if she ends up liking the Bersas.
Ruger does make the Security 380 btw
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15+1 in 380 auto. Pretty reliable by all accounts.
 
What was so bad about it exactly (assuming this is a serious answer and not just shitposting)? I always thought that ballistically it was between 7.62 NATO and 7.62x39, and both of those are perfectly adequate service cartridges.
It would be adequate for sure, as 7.62 NATO turned out to be, however it wouldn't be a solution to the complaints about recoil that arose with 7.62 NATO and would still likely limit firing to semi-auto in something as light as the EM-2 or FAL. It's not that it, in a vacuum, is a bad round but they did not learn nearly enough from the concept behind 7.92 Kurz.
 
It would be adequate for sure, as 7.62 NATO turned out to be, however it wouldn't be a solution to the complaints about recoil that arose with 7.62 NATO and would still likely limit firing to semi-auto in something as light as the EM-2 or FAL. It's not that it, in a vacuum, is a bad round but they did not learn nearly enough from the concept behind 7.92 Kurz.
There were clearly lessons to learn from 7.92 kurz though and .30 carbine, and I don't think it's just hindsight that makes it obvious.
 
a moderator/brake, an inverted adapted M60 gas system, a modified action with buffer, and possibly a thompson-style forward pistol grip
It's a good thing they kept the magazine, stock and trigger/safety setup because otherwise that sounds like 'all you need to do is replace the entire fucking gun' L85A2 style.
 
Wasn’t there also a planned SAW version of the M14 with a heavy barrel and a pistol-grip that was decided against adopting because “muh infantry M14 can fill all those roles anyways!”?
yes, the M15 SAW, which was actually adopted but never was pursued in favor of the Colt model 606 in both A and B variations as well as a few experiments with the then new M16 that the Army and Air Force were trying to standardize on. there's a lot of stories circulating around the time period about the development of the M16 and the immediately preceding M14 that was replaced so swiftly.
What was so bad about it exactly (assuming this is a serious answer and not just shitposting)? I always thought that ballistically it was between 7.62 NATO and 7.62x39, and both of those are perfectly adequate service cartridges.
the .280 was functionally uncontrollable in automatic rifles for common infantrymen owing to British doctrine at the time of self loading rifles for accurate fire at all times with only line gunners offering automatic fire. that and generally poor performance for the size of the round which did not significantly increase the "firepower" of a fireteam either through volume or through accuracy. if anything, it was a step backwards from chemical and mechanical developments since the end of WW2. the three or more years of development time with the T61 and T62 ammunition essentially created a "compact" .30-06 Springfield cartridge, which offered better overall performance for the same cost in both manufacturing, logistics, and doctrine while also being more compatible with existing .30 bores in machineguns in service. it didn't help that the US Army was significantly misguided in a single cartridge for all arms which just wasn't feasible at time just like how "walking fire" wasn't a useful doctrine in actual practice. the .280 did work for burst firing or single shot rifles and carbines though and was sufficiently useful at 500 meter engagements, which the US Army refused to acknowledge until decades later - instead insisting that 800+ engagements were viable and desirable... until you know Vietnam. not like the British had experience with jungle warfare and full power cartridges for 20 years in Malaysia fighting communists or something - that apparently didn't count.

if you want a modern equivalent, 7mm-08 Remington is still produced and is a popular hunting cartridge, i've used it in a Steyr Scout and it's a very nice, flat shooting and mild cartridge that's still significantly powerful for medium game like fully grown red deer or reindeer. 6.5 Creedmoor might be an equivalent in an automatic rifle.
It's a good thing they kept the magazine, stock and trigger/safety setup because otherwise that sounds like 'all you need to do is replace the entire fucking gun' L85A2 style.
i've built one for a customer, it's entirely the same as a normal M14 (or M1A) other than a half dozen assemblies, 3 of which are simple adaptions of already existing items (gas system, muzzle device, recoil buffer). the rest were very straight forward modifications to the stock, bolt, and operating rod. in terms of effort it's similar to assembling a M16 upper from parts - doable with the right tools and experience in an hour or two at most.

in the 1960's, the M60 and M14 were in active production and many spare M14 parts could also be sourced from WW2 surplus, combined with straight-forward mechanical changes it would have also been economical as well. too bad it wasn't really thought of until decades later.
 
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Ruger does make the Security 380 btw
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15+1 in 380 auto. Pretty reliable by all accounts.
I've looked at those, too. I was hoping to find another decocker, exposed hammer fired number. Mrs. Balls is probably the most proficient woman I know with firearms, but just like me replacing the Jericho with the BUL for EDC, she learned on the Cheetah. I don't want her to have to relearn a ton to both make the firearm ready and render it safe. Been drilling her, and she can operate on muscle memory her beretta under duress. Want something that may not be exactly the same, but her reptile brain skills translate heavily towards.
 
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