Sweet Baby Inc. and the Steam Curator Group Conspiracy - The company that is responsible for the diarrheic video game writing.

Craniometrista said:
It pains me to see Alan Wake 2 lumped with those other games. I loved it so much.
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I feel that way about the indie studios on the list, not in so much that I love them, but it sucks to see them lumped in with the big IPs who are just making sure they tick all the right SJW boxes.
I have no idea how much it costs to hire Sweet Baby (can you imagine saying that out loud at a serious meeting?) but I can see indie studios tossing them a couple coins just for the promise to be listed beside God of War, Spiderman and Alan Wake for advertising purposes.

I'm not saying that's what happened and I'll be the first to admit I have no idea how these things work (I'm sure the "hows" of making a video game are very interesting and it all takes a lot of hard work, devs who may be reading this, I just don't care), it just gets me down to see the little guys get caught in the crossfire, ya know?
 
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SpaceAce said:
I'm not saying that's what happened and I'll be the first to admit I have no idea how these things work
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One thing that surfaced with GG is that these lefty consultants are basically a racket, they blackmail companies with indirect threats. Don't know how well connected sbi is but during GG the amount of journos in bed with these consultants was staggering, practically all major ones were friends with these fucks. So what happened is that if you didn't hire the wokes then their friends would mass coordinate articles on all sites and mags about how your game was "problematic" and racist/soggykneestic. Don't know how effective it would be now that gamers don't give a fuck about what journoscum says anymore but back then it was serious enough to get many studios to bend the knee.

I've heard of similar woke consultants in other industries (where press still matters) using similar tactics, but now with DEI my best guess is that they rat you out to blackrock and other entities about what a bigoted piece of shit you are, so if you want those loans you better comply.
 
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cybertoaster said:
I take you weren't there back in the day. One of the driving factors of GG was that for the first time we saw wide-scale coordinated censorship on the internet. I began with some literally who whore sucking 5 dicks for publicity, literally shit nobody cared about, but then there was the massive damage control that caused a huge streissand effect. Mass deletions and bans on reddit, social media companies hiding and manipulating trends, takeover of wikipedia articles so its only the official story, and yes the wayback machine not letting you archive what some people are doing least anyone find out. In short the beginning of what's now considered "normal" every time something the woke don't like being discussed started there. Never saw that before GG, but when it happened it went from 0 to 60 in a second, even 4chan was deleting anything GG related because moot was simping for a chick that worked at gawker att.
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I already knew that archive.org was compromised, but i didn't knew this other part of the story wtf.
Shit's wack.
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Turns out, the NotSho guy was an actual Sweet Baby employee. (Archive)
They're not sending their best! :story: I also think this thread should be moved to the main forums. It seems milk-worthy.
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Oh would you look at that, and they genuinely want to be seen as the good guys of the story.
 
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cybertoaster said:
Don't know how well connected sbi is but during GG the amount of journos in bed with these consultants was staggering, practically all major ones were friends with these fucks.
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I can say (as a Canadian) it's pretty well known that Montreal is the hub of game creation in Canada and these guys are based there so I wouldn't be surprised if they had their roots twisted around the big names then and could use those connections to threaten or bribe the smaller companies.

Damn, now I really wish there was a way to get all the indie studios off the blacklists. But alas I am but a poor faggot tapping words on the internet who spends more time watching deathfats eat themselves to death than I do playing video games, so I shall simply sit back and watch while looking a little sad for the Indie casualties.

斯尼 德之王 said:
Just so people in thread are aware. The Saints Row reboot was partially responsible for destroying a dying man's wishes of resurrecting the franchise he dedicated his last months of his life for.

Indirectly, Sweet Baby has blood on their hands. Fuck them.
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Lol. That's the same logic troons use to try and link us to them committing sewerslide. You can do better than that, man.
 
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Cheeseknife said:
Harmful Opinions has been given a lot of good material to work with in recent days:
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Holy fucking shit look at that fucking smile.

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This isn't the face of someone you can consider trustworthy.

Fucking pennywise looking ass
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Reminder that we got that Saint's Row game but Embracer cancelled Timesplitters 4 2 years into development. Dr. Doak went out of his way to come back from video game retirement as Volition was shitposting on Twitter. Now they're dead again and Timesplitters isn't coming back. Not with a sequel or with any kind of remaster.
 
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Craniometrista said:
They're parasites. There's no intention to keep the host alive after they suck its blood dry.
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That's quite a good summary of the cycle of events. Financially the ones at the top almost always escape consequence.
My comments were meant to be more aimed at retarded decisions on running the company. Blowing ludicrous resources pandering to an audience that doesn't exist—Alienating the consumerbase, etc. I apologize for the miscommunication.

cybertoaster said:
Don't discount the ideological capture of some of the employees. Some of the lunatics working in this industry truly believe in this nonsense, its practically their religion, they were pushing for this shit way before DEI started, nobody was paying them to be woke back in the early 2010s and then many (but not all) games were already moving in that direction.
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Thank you for reminding me of this, that's a very good thing to keep in mind. I suppose if the people at the top are only in it for the money, then a lot of the cultists floating around in the industry are more or less like the cells of a virus. I guess now that it's "profitable", they're just going to screech and double down even harder.
 
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Gilgamesh! said:
I guess now that it's "profitable", they're just going to screech and double down even harder.
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It was profitable back then too since many of these shitheads got ahead in life by doing the woke spiel, went from being some nobody in testing to lecturing to devs who were too busy doing actual work to massage their way into office politics. These results only reinforce the belief system because how else would those mediocre shits have reached this point if not with woke politics?
 
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Gilgamesh! said:
The problem is, DEI/ESG isn't "Free Money". DEI/ESG is just goodboy points and better connections and access to "financial resources"—Which you may also known as "exorbitant loans". Which this is the part where you really start to see just how fucking retarded the corporate execs running most of this shit are. They start to think they're on top of the world and the company is doing good because of all this money they now have and all these new projects they can work on, and quarterly reports show their total liquid assets are way higher than last month so they're happy. But they always forget that you have to pay back the loan. So they spend a few years living the good life and ignoring the whims of the market and their userbase, and then once it's time to pay back the loan, they look back and see how things have been going and- Oh fuck we alienated our primary consumerbase oh fuck we're losing so much money oh my god.
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Some higher level execs are sometimes in on the grift. You take a company that had a good reputation but isn't doing as well as it used to. You load it up with debt and take a massive salary. Then you try to make the company look as good as possible before you exit with all that money that was paid to you as salaries and bonuses so you'll never have to pay it back. The next poor sap who gets to run the company has to deal with a dying, debt ridden company while you enjoy a wealthy lifestyle.

However, the one I don't get is Bob Iger. He was out, he was clear. I'm sure he had Disney stock, but he just needed to unload that. He could ride off into the sunset while Disney collapsed under Bob Chapek. Somehow he was lured back into taking his old job back, so now he gets to preside over some troubled years for Disney. I'm guessing it was an ego thing, but I think his ego would have been better served to say, "Ah, too bad I retired. I really thought Chapek could handle it. Well, maybe he just needs some time. I wish him the best."
 
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Cheeseknife said:
I want to know the inner details on this as well. The whole tax break thing seems like it fits, but I want to know what the numbers are for that.
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That's one of the reasons why I'm wary of them. I'm still of the mind there has to be some kind of weird fucked up money laundering thing going on with them, 'cause they're basically creating solutions to problems that don't even exist (as Liberals are oft want to do).
 
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Gilgamesh! said:
What has happened in the game industry is what happened to Disney—Of which they're now currently seeing the consequences of. They utilize low quality but impossible to ignore (also known as being "fucking obnoxious") DEI/ESG inclusions to hit the checkboxes. They also feel like this shields them from criticism due to the climate of the political and media environment over the past 10 or so years.
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It isn't really just this, though.

A massive shift over the last ~10-15 years has been aspiring developers wondering "what does working at a studio do for me?" and not bothering to work in some hostile shitpile of an industry just to make someone else wildly rich. There's been a large shift from the "dream" being a Chris Metzen type person working at Blizzard to being a Toby Fox or a Scott Cawthorn.

You can get a great game done with a smaller team, the tools are much more powerful now. Compare Paladins to Overwatch, PoE to Diablo, Stardew Valley to Harvest Moon, and so on. When you think of "breakout smash hit game" - you typically don't think of a big studio. BG3, No Man's Sky, Palworld, Helldivers 2, Undertale - all small/solo studios doing good work and keeping all of the rewards.

Studios are going through a lack of vision - so they are being drawn into what new "visionaries" are selling. A new audience, a new demographic, a new narrative because studios are terrified of the idea of actually having to grow new IPs, new teams, and to provide money/benefits to up and coming dev teams. Even worse - they're petrified of taking risks.

It's resulting in just a massive brain drain that's never going to get replaced and this is literally the best they're capable of doing - because they don't care at all about the product.
 
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Craniometrista said:

Sweet Baby Inc is immunized against all dangers: One may call them SJWs, feminists, faggots, niggers, it all runs off them like water off a raincoat. But make a list about the games they've worked on and you will be astonished at how they recoil, how injured they are, how they suddenly shrink back: "We've been found out".​


It pains me to see Alan Wake 2 lumped with those other games. I loved it so much.
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I didn’t care much for AW2, but it was moreso due to the execution than the idea itself. Having a jumpscare PNG and loud noises in my ear every five seconds during the nursing home level was annoying as fuck, as was the backtracking in the Dark Place after a while, plus the way they changed the combat so the flashlight was effectively nerfed pissed me off as well.
 
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I Just finished HO's video and the CEO more or less says the intent isn't simply to consult, but to outright subvert and change what the original intent of the work was. They are squirming around right now trying to tell everyone that isn't what they do, but it is. The CEO has said as much in her lectures.

The common theme I'm noticing, based on Sweet Baby's replies, is drawing from the Law of Merited Impossibility.

In a nutshell, Sweet Baby's response has been:

1) We are not manipulating you through your video games; stop with your conspiracy bullshit!

2) You're all bigots anyway and you deserve to be manipulated through your video games.
 
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