Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

snov said:
Why won't men fight dirty even to save their lives? This is why you carry pepper spray, and when that runs out, you start scratching at the eyes. Ukraine is literally a war zone, buy a gun and start shooting ffs. You've got literally nothing to lose, it's either "you fight back against four nazi faggots and maybe survive" or "you definitely die in a ditch while artillery shells and quadcopters explode around you".
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They should do an Aaron Bushnell.

But make sure to take a couple of hohol niggers and Mykola pigdogs with them to the grave.
 
Tumbo II said:
I'm curious what the plan is when they genuinely do run out of soliders women included. Will Zelninsky finally admit defeat or will he come up with an even more retarded plan in the process?
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He's going to go out the way he started. Going out onto the battlefield and playing a piano with his dick while the media says that Ukraine as won while Russia has conquered the nation.

... Or he's just going to do what all countries do in this situation and go for a false flag that draws NATO into the war. And, as someone else pointed out before - NATO doesn't have the production capabilities and sent all of its shit to Ukraine where most of it has ended up in the black market or blown up in the warehouses they stored most of it in, rather than spreading it out.

Nor does the U.S. Fun fact - the U.S. doesn't even nationally produce gunpowder anymore. The U.S. has no gunpowder manufacturing. We get it from China. So, that's gonna be a fucking 'oops' moment if China steps in when NATO does. It's gonna have a new acronym.

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EDIT: 11:02 PM CST
... Damn, I was right. I looked up blackpowder manufacturing. Even the EU imports it from China.


 
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Doctor Professor Timon said:
Nor does the U.S. Fun fact - the U.S. doesn't even nationally produce gunpowder anymore. The U.S. has no gunpowder manufacturing. We get it from China. So, that's gonna be a fucking 'oops' moment if China steps in when NATO does. It's gonna have a new acronym.
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To be fair, blackpowder manufacturing should be one of the "easy" ones to restart, yeah? The knowhow of producing mass quantities of gunpowder is known for centuries, at this point.
 
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snov said:
Do you really think so? All these videos seem to depict men getting kidnapped at random streets. If they were going by lists I would expect a lot more clips of raids on homes and workplaces.
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Yeah.

Though sure, sometimes it’s seemingly random, I saw a video of a commissar recommending going to car registration places and fitness center for finding gun fodder, but they can’t be completely random.

They gotta have the right age, not be registered in university (might get some rich politicians kids that way) and preferably Russiannspeaking and from a village instead of a big city.

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But lists are definitely also being used.

Kane Lives said:
To be fair, blackpowder manufacturing should be one of the "easy" ones to restart, yeah? The knowhow of producing mass quantities of gunpowder is known for centuries, at this point.
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We upgraded to smokeless powder in the 19th century for a reason.

But the stuff brought up is absolutely true.

I remember reading regarding produci by more artillery shells, that the explosives to make them aren’t even made in the US in large enough quantities. They had to import the chemicals needed from Japan.
 
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None of these people seem to understand the complexities of actually delivering working artillery capabilities to Ukraine. Every problem fixed is just going to uncover another shortage in another component down the line.

Where this is all ultimately going is that supplying a major war is going to require massive industrial investment and reallocation of resources all over the world. Contrary to what many supporters of the war seem to think, none of this can be done on the cheap.

The last time the west had anything like a war economy was in 1953 during the Korean War. Its no small thing.

Kane Lives said:
To be fair, blackpowder manufacturing should be one of the "easy" ones to restart, yeah? The knowhow of producing mass quantities of gunpowder is known for centuries, at this point.
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The US consolidated down to one factory that produced black powder in the US. It was in Louisiana, That factory blew up three or four years ago. The Defense Department is currently to get a new factory built. They gave them money in 2022. As far as I know, they are still very far away from having a new factory built.

Everything today in the US is much more difficult than it seems. Between the amount of corruption in business, government regulation, environmental regulation and the Gorilla workforce that people recruit workers from, nothing happens fast. Especially when the government is the primary buyer.
 
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Battlefield2142EU said:
Going full Contra and Venezuelan army by dressing Ukrainian soldiers as civilians to rob Neighboring NATO members of food and weapons?
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HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS said:
No one wants to die in European nigger country, Germans included. The boot on the ground is just talk. No fucking sane person would ever support boots on the ground.
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Meanwhile, illegal immigrants are being considered for the US military.

 
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MrJokerRager said:
Meanwhile, illegal immigrants are being considered for the US military.
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Kek training the population that hates LGBT and Jews more than black Americans will turnout well for the ruling class in the United States. I am sure Ukraine not thrilled about pro Russia illegals who hate Jews getting weapons and training. Latinos kids were doing Smacking Jew Piñata events at high schools and colleges to show support for Hamas in LA alone. Mexico alone fixing to be Russia and China biggest Allie’s in BRICS.
 
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Battlefield2142EU said:
show support for Hamas in LA alone.
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Be Californian Democrat shitlib niggerfaggot.

> choose to have a country with a secure border and population of old voters that support Zionism.
> choose to import as you said, fine folks who hate kikes and Israel and faggots which has led to a decrease in support for Israel in the next few decades.

I believe that folks from the third world simping for Hamas did nothing wrong unironically.

It's their nature fr fr.

I see those as sus who question the dog bussing for Hummus, and not the owner being cringe bitches that adopted the mid dog. Imao, no cap.
 
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Sneed S. McSneedensen said:
I know it's a based ebin meme, but enlisting foreigners is literally what led to the fall of the Roman Empire.
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When it was relegated to auxilia formations and citizenship only granted after 25 years of service, it was actually pretty reasonable. Worst case scenario you brutally murder some unsupported skirmisher units that turned traitor.
 
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Sneed S. McSneedensen said:
I know it's a based ebin meme, but enlisting foreigners is literally what led to the fall of the Roman Empire.
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It's a bit more complicated than that. Having non-citizens serve in auxiliaries, with citizenship granted on retirement, was working pretty well with the auxiliaries making up nearly half of the army: What fucked it was the decree that everyone in the empire was now a citizen, so no one wanted to sign up for the auxiliaries.
This led to out-sourcing border security to mercenaries from assorted tribes who didn't feel particularly Roman, which worked out as well as as you'd expect.
 
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Sneed S. McSneedensen said:
I know it's a based ebin meme, but enlisting foreigners is literally what led to the fall of the Roman Empire.
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It very much was not. The Germans simply took advantage of a long-faltering economy and political instability to end only a portion of the empire (the east ran along quite merrily for nigh another millennium).
Briefly, I'd argue the fall of the west was due to three main causes:
The Antonine plague put a stop to the highly prosperous pax romana, neither demographics nor economy ever recovered. Worse, it halted sorely needed reforms, directly contributing to the next point:
The crisis of the third century, a prolonged period of civil war and political instability. Barbarians play into this, but they're very far from decisive. Diocletian's reforms, while necessary, contributed to the eventual rise of Constantine and his destructive cult, christianity, which is the next point.
Christianity solidified the split of the empire in two and wasted copious sorely needed resources on ill-considered reforms and injustices against the people of the western empire.
This is where the barbarians depose the pathetic excuse for a western government that still remained and set up a successor system. But contrary to popular belief, these barbarians remained ostensibly loyal to the east until finally the plague of Justinian and a prolonged famine crushed any efforts by the east to reconstitute the west. The rot that was christianity had made any such effort futile by this point anyway.
Vesperus said:
It's a bit more complicated than that. Having non-citizens serve in auxiliaries, with citizenship granted on retirement, was working pretty well with the auxiliaries making up nearly half of the army: What fucked it was the decree that everyone in the empire was now a citizen, so no one wanted to sign up for the auxiliaries.
This led to out-sourcing border security to mercenaries from assorted tribes who didn't feel particularly Roman, which worked out as well as as you'd expect.
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Nah. Caracalla's edict wasn't about giving people Roman rights, it was about removing Latin rights. Latin citizens by this time had all the benefits of a Roman citizen, but were free from many tax and military burdens. Forcibly making the Latins Romans dramatically increased how much tax the state could bring in, it was very much a positive act (the state was desperately poor).
 
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