The American Child Torture Industry: Cons and Cults Disguised as Schools - Because Discord and Roblox aren't bad enough.

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The kids I thought it was genuinely helpful for were primarily the teenage sex offenders. That crowd needs the tight regimenting.
It’s counterintuitive but this kind of shit doesn’t actually work very well on them. They deserve to have their shit fucked up but in practice most of these assholes are psychopaths who don’t feel pain the way normies do.

The kids who bear the brunt of the torture are normal kids in a horrible situation. Psychopathic kids are able to figure out how the program works and breeze through it. They’ll even help torture other kids on the way out.

Just keeping them out of society by throwing them in juvie (or adult prison if they did something to get charged as an adult) is sufficient. You can throw a kid in prison for raping a younger kid. You nominally can’t throw a kid in prison for “disobedience” or “acting out”.
 
I wasn't thinking of that one - Joe Nobody was caught crossing state lines with weed, so him going to Elan instead of prison was part of the plea deal. His buddy got off easy, as he opted to go to prison instead of Elan.

That being said, one of the most fucked up things about the Cash for Kids thing was one of the parents basically set up her kid to get scared straight with a visit from the cops, and ended up with more than she bargained for. They came up with a list of bullshit charges, and the rest is history. He was the one that ended up committing suicide.

I can't find the source for that last bit. I could have sworn Edward Kenzakoski was made an example of...
This woman?
 
The "troubled teen" industry is fucked. One of the episodes of Let Us Prey focuses on an Independent fundie Baptist-run place like this and the fucked up shit that happened there.

It's amazing how much child abuse you can get away with in the US if the kid has a diagnosis or behavior problems, or you're a religious organization.
Or LGBT.
 
This woman?
Yeah, her. If it's true that she wanted to scare him straight, I feel like she's a moron.

Doesn't seem like it's the case, though. My memory for stuff that happens to others is shit, sorry.
 
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It’s counterintuitive but this kind of shit doesn’t actually work very well on them. They deserve to have their shit fucked up but in practice most of these assholes are psychopaths who don’t feel pain the way normies do.

The kids who bear the brunt of the torture are normal kids in a horrible situation. Psychopathic kids are able to figure out how the program works and breeze through it. They’ll even help torture other kids on the way out.

Just keeping them out of society by throwing them in juvie (or adult prison if they did something to get charged as an adult) is sufficient. You can throw a kid in prison for raping a younger kid. You nominally can’t throw a kid in prison for “disobedience” or “acting out”.
You're 100 percent on the money. I don't think I personally dealt with kids living with the "fucked up life situations" often. In my area I think that type of client typically wound up being shuffled into Teen Challenge(they renamed it here though because they got dudes as old as like 25) which I do think is shifty as shit. They ran a thrift store in the middle of town where like all the staff members for a long time looked/acted like there were in heavens gate so I definately dont trust that place.
 
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You're 100 percent on the money. I don't think I personally dealt with kids living with those life situations often. In my area I think that type of client wound up being shuffled into Teen Challenge(they renamed it here though because they got dudes as old as like 25) which I do think is shifty as shit. They run a thrift store in the middle of town where like all the staff members for a long time looked/acted like there were in heavens gate so I definately dont trust that place.
Teen Challenge is absolutely a fucking program, but it's an imp among archdemons.

Curiously enough that's the only kind of kid the typical democrat gives a shit about. "Gay kids!" makes people get riled up instead of asking what they can do about it.

I unironically see one of the kids tortured at that fucking place shooting up the school. I honestly wouldn't blame them at all for that
There's at least one case of a boy in a program killing staff to get out. Every program kid said Jail was like a 5 star hotel in comparison.

Yeah, her. If it's true that she wanted to scare him straight, I feel like she's a moron.

Doesn't seem like it's the case, though. My memory is shit.
I wouldn't know and can't bring myself to check. Scaring straight doesn't work, alas, but we keep trying it because boomers are retarded faggots who think you can make stepford kids.
 
Curiously enough that's the only kind of kid the typical democrat gives a shit about. "Gay kids!" makes people get riled up instead of asking what they can do about it.
That reminds me, there have been some kids that end up in the TTI for being gay and the parents decide to massively overreact.
 
Teen Challenge is absolutely a fucking program, but it's an imp among archdemons.


Curiously enough that's the only kind of kid the typical democrat gives a shit about. "Gay kids!" makes people get riled up instead of asking what they can do about it.


There's at least one case of a boy in a program killing staff to get out. Every program kid said Jail was like a 5 star hotel in comparison.


I wouldn't know and can't bring myself to check. Scaring straight doesn't work, alas, but we keep trying it because boomers are retarded faggots who think you can make stepford kids.
In the everlasting words of Jocko Willink... "GOOD."
 
That reminds me, there have been some kids that end up in the TTI for being gay and the parents decide to massively overreact.

Oh, tons. Every single program will happily take a gay kid for being gay. Love in Action was explicitly a conversion therapy program that was protested by the LGBTBBQ, which then promptly went "meh" when informed that the kids were sent to other programs after it closed down.

Not sure if people have no staying power or they're just retarded or gays only count in concentration but whatever, is what it is.
 
You ever heard of the Judge Rotenberg Center?
I still have no idea how that institution is still legally able to operate…people who run a place such as that must take joy in torturing the disabled and the vulnerable. I can’t believe I have to tell people that shock therapy is still used on patients who don’t consent to it…fucking barbaric.
 
I said it a while ago but like..... how do they hire the guys who kidnap the kids for these camps? Is it like a subcontractor sort of deal? Like imagine that coming up during a date

"What do you do for a living?"
"Legally kidnap children"
Ex cops and former/moonlighting staff of programs do this. There's no sort of licensing required, just some paperwork, so anyone who doesn't mind, or gets off to, terrifying children in their beds at 2 am can just do it.
Ok, so let’s say you could wave a magic wand and sexual contact with the kids is instant death sentence.

I think then there would be a lot of use for this type of environment.

Like what else should you do with the black kid retail locust mobs? The riot and shootout at six flags Georgia?
Are you trolling or did you gloss over everything or do you somehow not understand it despite reading it all and watching the documentary?

Torturing people does not make them good people. Torturing people does not make them bad people. Torturing people makes the torturer a morally repugnant monster and it breaks the victim, making them unable to regulate themselves to the point they often struggle to hold down jobs or maintain relationships.

My brother in Christ, your entire logic is "something something suffering blah blah blah kids *hand waving* they'll turn into model citizens if they're made to suffer for some reason." They won't. They'll be fucked up and likely worse, but maybe they'll act out in a different way. There is not a shred of evidence anywhere that torturing kids fixes them. I don't know where the meme of "hard/tough/character building/blah blah blah" came from and how it lingers but it's bullshit. If you want good kids, they have to be raised right.

If you still struggle with this, consider if I tortured you for 15 months. Would you thank me and be a model citizen or would you seek revenge? Why is a kid somehow different?
View attachment 5788579Wikipedo is so fucking wrong. Gooning isn’t edging, gooning is just compulsive masturbation.
Gooning defined as "having hired goons do kidnapping" is older than the current bullshit coomer term.
I still have no idea how that institution is still legally able to operate…people who run a place such as that must take joy in torturing the disabled and the vulnerable. I can’t believe I have to tell people that shock therapy is still used on patients who don’t consent to it…fucking barbaric.

What's scarier is a lot of people just dehumanize 'inmates' and 'patients' and treat it about the same as a slaughterhouse worker treats putting a captive bolt or an electrical stunner to an animal's head. That, or you get the lingering nonsense SpergioLeonne mentioned that somehow, despite it not working on the person suggesting it, torturing someone, generally younger than the person suggesting it, "just fixes them" without fucking them up, or making them fake it until they can flee or stab you in the dick.
 
What's scarier is a lot of people just dehumanize 'inmates' and 'patients' and treat it about the same as a slaughterhouse worker treats putting a captive bolt or an electrical stunner to an animal's head. That, or you get the lingering nonsense SpergioLeonne mentioned that somehow, despite it not working on the person suggesting it, torturing someone, generally younger than the person suggesting it, "just fixes them" without fucking them up, or making them fake it until they can flee or stab you in the dick.
If you were confident in your argument and not just a histrionic faggot, you wouldn’t need to characterize structured environments that incorporate negative incentives as “torture” fifty times in the same screed. Take your meds
 
If you were confident in your argument and not just a histrionic faggot, you wouldn’t need to characterize structured environments that incorporate negative incentives as “torture” fifty times in the same screed. Take your meds

Please tell me how to make a structured environment for you so you'll never make retarded posts mischaracterizing well documented torture as negative incentives and discontinue being a faggot derailing a thread because you were spanked too much.
 
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