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[The Nothingness]

Edit: Washington Post plastered this retarded headline on their site:

That's some good copium from the WaPo and for the Haley camp.

But, this would be more appropriate to Nimarata.

 

[Night Crawler]

I can't believe Haley won Vermont and fucked up Trumps glorious 15 state winning streak.

 

[quaawaa]

"Whoever said you had to be white to be a national socalist?"

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Google Gemini was shut down for suggesting that there were black Nazis.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

"Whoever said you had to be white to be a national socalist?"

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When Real Life becomes a Dave Chappelle sketch

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

I can't believe Haley won Vermont and fucked up Trumps glorious 15 state winning streak.

it's an Open primary with more than twice as many left-leaners compared to right-leaners. Back in 2016, Trump would've lost it to Kasich (he only beat Kasich 32% to 30%) were it not for the libtards being occupied voting for Bernie or Hilldawg.

The Dem primary is not competitive so rather than show up to vote for chomo joe or Marianne Williamson or Dean Phillips or Mark Greenstein or Cenk Uygur or Jason Palmer* -- libtards view it a better use of their time to try to impede Trump's nomination by voting for nikki

*Jason Palmer is a no-name entrepreneur who managed to win American Samoa last night

 

[X Prime]

i love when the alt-right tries the physiognomy game, when every hardcore liberal at 50 (like chris pine) looks amazing

You sound homosexual. Get the rope indeed.

 

[Kyuruma]

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Nimrod BTFO, lol. And give them hell, Based Nigger Mark.

Lmao, can't say I agree with him on all things but it's pretty funny that Mark "TWOOO GENDAS" Robinson is the nominee for Gov. NC Governor tends to go blue a lot for being a red state so not sure if he'll make it. But if any oddball candidate could do it, a nigga straight out of the hood in Greensboro has a shot. Especially when his opponent is the stuffiest Jew you could possibly find.

 

[Gar For Archer]

I've made reference to this before, but the whole "Blue Texas" and indeed the whole "Emerging Democratic Majority" was predicated entirely on the idea that Hispanics were going to be just like blacks, in that they would be a solid 90%+ identity vote devoted to the Democrats because of gibs and protection from white Republicans.

Except the reality is that the Hispanic vote is in fact a far more varied and complex demographic that crossed over significantly with traditional Republican voter demographics, and that their apparent voting allegiance to the Democrats - much like the formerly solid voting allegiance of groups like the Irish, Italians, or Union voters - was entirely transactional, dependent on the Democrats protecting their local interests.

And since the Democrats have gone all in on serving a coalition of inner city blacks, foreign border jumpers, and white progressive members of the professional managerial class, the Hispanics are peeling away and taking their votes elsewhere to ensure that their concerns over basic shit like border security, tackling crime, and having schools that focus on actual education rather than LGBTQW++ insanity gets addressed.


I'm pretty positive they're ride or die with Biden at this point, barring something coming in completely out of left field.

Broadly speaking, the Hispanics that have been here for generations are hard-working people who value family, education, and social mobility. And unlike literally every other minority, a lot of them are very white-passing (due to the fact that many of them have plenty of European DNA). 200 years from now most Hispanics will only be identifiable as such by their last names.

 

[The Nothingness]

Just a reminder that these people vote too.

Joe Biden’s Superfans Think the Rest of America Has Lost Its Mind
March 4, 2024

Andrea Russell is a fixture on Earp Street, the quiet strip of rowhouses in South Philadelphia where she has lived for 45 years. In the afternoons, neighbors come and go from her living room as her 16-year-old cat, George, sits perched above a television that is usually tuned to cable news.

Ms. Russell, a 77-year-old retired legal secretary, thinks President Biden would fit right in. “He’d come on by Earp Street,” she said. “I could picture going up to him and saying, ‘Hi, Joe.’ I can see him here.” She identifies with him, she said, and admires his integrity and his record. She also loves his eyes.

Her friend, Kathy Staller, also 77, said she was as eager to vote for Mr. Biden as she was for Barack Obama in 2008. “I am excited,” she said. “I hope more people feel the way I do.”

Ms. Russell and Ms. Staller are ardent, unreserved supporters of Mr. Biden — part of a small but dedicated group of Democratic voters who think that he is not merely the party’s only option against Donald J. Trump but, in fact, a great, transformative president who clearly deserves another four years in office.

They occupy a lonely position in American politics.

Mr. Biden, 81, has never inspired the kind of excitement that Mr. Obama did, and he is not a movement candidate, in contrast to his likely 2024 rival, Mr. Trump, who is 77. Historically, he has been far more skilled at connecting one to one on the campaign trail than energizing crowds with soaring oratory.

But his poll numbers have been especially rough lately. A New York Times/Siena College poll released this weekend found that just 43 percent of respondents would vote for him if the election were today, compared with 48 percent for Mr. Trump.

Forty-five percent of Democratic primary voters surveyed said they thought he should not be the party’s nominee — and just 23 percent of primary voters said they were enthusiastic about Mr. Biden being the Democratic nominee. That stands in contrast to the nearly half of Republican primary voters who said they were enthusiastic about Mr. Trump’s candidacy.

The Biden campaign dismissed the latest numbers over the weekend, pointing to strong Democratic performances in recent special elections and highlighting Republican divisions and cash problems.

Mr. Biden also has a slice of voters who adore him. They wave off concerns about his age and bristle at the suggestion that anyone else could meet the moment.

In interviews with nearly two dozen of these Democrats — many of them older, and most of them women — they sounded by turns beleaguered, bewildered and protective.

“I’m sorry Joe doesn’t know how much I love him, but I do love Joe,” said Constance Wynn, 73, of Wilkes-Barre, Pa. “I don’t even know why people want to pester the man, because the man has things to do.”

A president who could ‘use a little bit of bucking up’
Mr. Biden’s superfans say he deserves more credit for a substantive first-term record. Passing an infrastructure bill. Canceling some student loan debt. Protecting the environment with a sweeping climate measure. Capping the cost of insulin and other drugs. Supporting unions and abortion rights. Putting the first Black woman on the Supreme Court. Backing Ukraine and navigating international crises with his deep foreign policy experience.

They praise his personal qualities, describing his devotion to his family, his regular church attendance, his down-to-earth, workingman vibes. They say that they feel as if they know him, and that the swing voters in their lives might relate to him, too.

And sometimes they worry about him.

Susan D. Wagner, a founder of Markers For Democracy, which pushes get-out-the-vote efforts through the writing of postcards, has begun a project to send thank-you notes to Mr. Biden for his work — and to show him he has support at a challenging moment.

“It did seem like he was taking his lumps and could use a little bit of bucking up,” said Ms. Wagner, 66, who lives in Manhattan and is heavily involved in grass-roots activism. “I wrote that in this day and age, every once in a while somebody needs a smiling face. And I put a little smiling face on it.”

‘He came out of retirement to save the country’
The president does have a following among some younger Democrats — both on social media and among those involved with local politics.

Dakota Galban, 28, has a day job in human resources at a construction company, but he also serves as the chair of the Davidson Democrats, a county party organization based in Nashville.

He loves Mr. Biden. “And I feel like I’m the only one,” he said, arguing that the news media had overwhelmingly focused on Mr. Biden’s tepid support. “Does anybody care that I exist?”

Mr. Galban, like many of Mr. Biden’s fans, acknowledges that the president is not a candidate who generates a lot of enthusiasm. But they argue that’s a positive thing — Mr. Biden’s strength isn’t in his energy, they say, but his management skills and his understated ability to get things done.

“He came out of retirement to save the country, save our democracy, a fight for the soul of our nation — he didn’t have to run for president,” Mr. Galban said. “He made it his mission to take our country back from Donald Trump.”

But when Mr. Galban praises the president in committee meetings, his fellow Democrats chuckle. At home, his partner has gently suggested that he keep the life-size cutouts he has of Mr. Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris in storage.

It is a familiar dynamic to fans of the TV show “Parks and Recreation,” whose lead character, Leslie Knope — played by Amy Poehler — is obsessed with Mr. Biden, much to the confusion of her colleagues and loved ones. (Asked to describe her ideal man, Ms. Knope says, “He has the brains of George Clooney, and the body of Joe Biden.”)

Julie Platt, 34, works for a lobbying firm in Philadelphia and serves as a committee member in the city’s Second Ward. She describes herself as a progressive “ambassador” for Mr. Biden, saying her enthusiasm for him has only grown even as her friends who supported Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren in the 2020 primaries see the president as insufficiently progressive, not exciting enough and too old.

“I don’t see it as a choice between two bad candidates,” she said, referring to a Biden-Trump rematch. “I couldn’t be more honored to vote for him.”

Two years ago, Ms. Platt started keeping a list of Mr. Biden’s accomplishments in the Notes app on her phone. “He’s done so much,” she said. “It’s driving me crazy that people don’t see it.”

‘Everybody I talk to loves Joe Biden’
Some of Mr. Biden’s biggest supporters, unsurprisingly, are in Philadelphia politics. He was born in Scranton, Pa., and Jill Biden is a Philadelphia sports fan. The president has visited the city frequently since taking office.

Jim Donnelly, the leader of the 58th Ward, in the city’s conservative-leaning northeast, said he had at least seven Biden signs on his front lawn. He has gotten into fights with his neighbors who have vandalized or stolen them.

Aside from cops, firefighters and his barber, he said, “Everybody I talk to loves Joe Biden.” Among his reasons for supporting Mr. Biden, he listed the president’s well-known friendliness to train conductors, his foreign policy experience and his record of job creation.

Some of Mr. Biden’s biggest supporters have loudly countered his detractors. After protesters calling for a cease-fire in Gaza interrupted Mr. Biden’s speech in January at a South Carolina church, one woman cried out: “You’re an understanding person. They don’t realize that. You’re a good man.”

That was Tomi Greene, 74, of Charleston. She said that she first met Mr. Biden at a town-hall meeting sometime around 2018, and that she had since become friends with Jill Biden.

“He is the right person to take us where we need to be,” Ms. Greene said. “He is very compassionate, and he’s smart. He relates to people.”

Of his detractors, she said, “I just wish they could see and feel what I feel.”

Ms. Russell, the Biden backer on Earp Street in Philadelphia, said there was only one thing she would change about Mr. Biden — the flip of white hair on the back of his neck, which sometimes sticks out over his suit collar.

“It drives me nuts,” she said. “Just trim it!”

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[The Ugly One]

Broadly speaking, the Hispanics that have been here for generations are hard-working people who value family, education, and social mobility. And unlike literally every other minority, a lot of them are very white-passing (due to the fact that many of them have plenty of European DNA). 200 years from now most Hispanics will only be identifiable as such by their last names.

Hispanics vote D+30. They vote gibs, not idpol, though. The Democrats haven't really concocted an oppression narrative that resonates with spics because nearly all of them came here after the Civil Rights Act was passed, and most of them don't actually see having a border as wickedly racist.

 

[X Prime]

They vote gibs

That's true of nearly every lower-class Democrat constituency though.

 

[babadook]

I know it means absolutely nothing but still funny regardless. Who the fuck is Jason Palmer?
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Oh my god it's Jason Bourne Palmer

 

[tehpope]

It would be nice to see Trump get a second term maybe he can unfuck our country, if nothing else it would make the SJWs go insane lol

The damage done by the Biden admin will take decades to fix. That's not even mentioning issues started decades ago that are just now cropping up. Trump can try to unfuck the country, but unless he goes full dictator, he won't totally unfuck it.

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

Hispanics vote D+30. They vote gibs, not idpol, though. The Democrats haven't really concocted an oppression narrative that resonates with spics because nearly all of them came here after the Civil Rights Act was passed, and most of them don't actually see having a border as wickedly racist.

Yes they vote for gibs, but Biden is hurting their wallets so much that 2024 may be the first time an R actually wins hispanics at the Presidential level. No joke. Sure they voted for Obama by landslide margins and then for Hillary by landslide margins, but even in 2016 when Trump was hyped up as someone who'd remove everyone with a hispanic last name (even the white looking ones like nick fuentes), Trump *still* overperformed Romney with hispanics

in 2020, Trump massively outperformed his 2016 numbers with hispanics. 2024 is looking to be a continuation of that massive jump from 2016 to 2020, quite possibly an even bigger jump! The reason why? A combination of chomo joe being perceived to be more preoccupied with giving benefits to blacks than to hispanics, chomo joe pushing extreme tranny stuff that obama didn't push back then, the financial situations being much worse under chomo joe than under trump, the wide open border meaning that hispanics who already are here feel extra threatened by newcomer hispanics.

edit: also, it's a well known fact that hispanics value machismo. Trump shows this off more than chomo joe does.

so hispanics really may go from voting something like 75% Obama 25% Romney, to 52% Trump, 48% for chomo joe. Just goes to show what kinds of shifts can happen in only 12 years.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

The North Carolina gubernatorial election is going to be entertaining.

The republican nominee, Mark Robinson (endorsed by Trump), has made numerous anti-semitic statements, including denying the holocaust and praising Adolf Hitler. He claims that the civil rights movement was a “communist plot to subvert capitalism", adding that “so many freedoms were lost during the Civil Rights movement.” He refused to apologize for these statements, "I knew the truth of what I was trying to say, but I should have chosen different words."

And the democrat nominee is a Jew named Josh Stein, who is NC's current Attorney General.

You're forgetting the best part about this.

Mark Robinson is very, very, VERY black.

Hello Based Department? Yes I would like to put in a request for Honorary White? Mark Robinson of North Carolina.

 

[Barry McKockner]

A combination of chomo joe being perceived to be more preoccupied with giving benefits to blacks than to hispanics

Due to their lovely strategies, we might be living in a time where latinos see dems as giving the black more benefits, and the blacks see dems as giving the latinos more benefits at the same time. But that's one of the big problems with gibs. Unless you can give everyone everything they want, they always think someone else is getting more.

 

[Your Girlfriend's Dad]

Brandon Herrera the Guntuber actually managed to trigger a run off election against Tony Gonzalez.

Not bad.

 

[Back me up!]

Due to their lovely strategies, we might be living in a time where latinos see dems as giving the black more benefits, and the blacks see dems as giving the latinos more benefits at the same time. But that's one of the big problems with gibs. Unless you can give everyone everything they want, they always think someone else is getting more.

Which is really funny cause its actually a three way battle between blacks, latino's and illegal alien latino's all hating Biden (and each other) cause he gives too much to the other instead of themselves.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

And I believe you greatly overestimate the "anti-Israeli" sentiment in the country outside of Muhammadans and online wignat schizoposters.

Hate to split hairs, but I'd say it's 50/50. It's true people aren't technically anti-Israel in this country. However, I would point out that people are now more critical of Israel as before it was golden calf(greatest) ally that could do nuffing wrong. It may not seem that monumental but the loss of said imagery leads down the slope of more disfavor able views on Israel overall and open to more negative reception and general criticism which was looked down on prior. * More negative=/=Anti-Israel, but again it's a slope in that direction.

Obviously people aren't praising Hitler at large and most agree Israel has a right to exist, but at the same time just like with Ukraine certainly aren't claiming they are our BFF Jill like prior. It also doesn't help the people screaming anti-Semitism or "You are pro-Hamas" at everyone mildly critical of any one of Israel's actions has tainted the "get out of jail" card much like the "racism" card has painted it with a bad brush. Let's not mention the bad actors and speakers and bad faith arguments on the subject.

The perception that Israel is committing war crimes, has dual loyalist placated in foreign governments stealing wealth from those countries, and or are just as bloodthirsty as the Muslims in some regards, is an issue of optics Israelis' created themselves. Even if you haven't personally seen it, or disagree I think it can easily be agreed that Israel's image has been at least tarnished by and large to a degree where as years ago those currently becoming (as in weren't already) critical would have turned their heads and ignored it for various reasons.

His stance against gays is more of a liability than being an anti-semite in NC IMO.

Nah. True anti-Semitism is frowned upon. "Anti-Semitism" on the other hand or false claims of it not so much anymore. Israel can no longer act like Hector on the battlefield in the Iliad (with protection from Zeus) anymore.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

Brandon Herrera the Guntuber actually managed to trigger a run off election against Tony Gonzalez.

Not bad.

At the very least he's gonna make some rino fag waste a whole bunch of money.