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A car is actually not the most cost efficient method for delivering pizzas (and other foods).
A dirt bike is your answer.
I can buy a used dirt bike for about $3000 CAD and pay it off in less than 1 month by delivering food given that I earn at least $100 of profit/day.
And the best thing? A dirt bike will not randomly burst into flames when God wants to punish you for being a atheist leftoid metrosexual.

A major problem with this is that, at least in the US, giggers are banned from using motorcycles by all the major food delivery apps. Only ebikes and bicycles can be used and it uses the Activities Recognition API to flag your account if it sees your current activity is "motorcycling" and not "bicycling".

I do not understand why the hell this limitation exists but it does. Even scooters are banned.
 
Really with flying cars, the problem is going to be breakdowns. Assuming these things are mass produced and they don't really have wings, think like a big quad copter, and they can hover for parking... bro. You are going to have crashes out the wazoo. Planes are basically hand built. A mass produced hover car just couldn't be
Flying cars won’t be a big thing until technology has improved.
If someone in the future invents something like this:
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I don’t want it to be banned or regulated into uselessness because of some autistic retard who pushed for a preemptive ban decades ago.
 
I guess Super Smash Bros comes before reworking society to live without cars. Truly serious people.
The fuck is wrong with these faggots? Seriously? Like unless you go to Smash Bros tournaments every fucking day or some shit, if you can use transit for all the rest of your needs, take a goddamn cab the few times you need it! Even the most testosteroned F350 driver will just use an Uber when they fly somewhere unless they bother renting.
I do not understand why the hell this limitation exists but it does. Even scooters are banned.
I assume faggot liability or some shit, but it's completely insane.

Of course, delivery niggers would drive their motorcycles down sidewalks and bikepaths, but that's because we don't regulate niggers, not because motorcycles are the wrong vehicle.
Flying cars won’t be a big thing until technology has improved.
Flying cars exist, they're called helicopters, and they suck in so many ways that they're only used in very specific circumstances (but hey, if you want to land at the airport and helicopter to your hotel, it's cheaper than you might think!) like military, VIPs, and killing niggers.
 
Flying cars won’t be a big thing until technology has improved. If someone in the future invents something like this:
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I don’t want it to banned or regulated to uselessness because of some autistic retard who pushed for a preemptive ban decades ago.
We would need the reliability of a modern day jet to make flying cars mainstream. Otherwise as you said, it WILL be regulated to death. We aren't there. As it stands in 2024, One of these things would break and turn into a missile the moment a teenager drove it. It needs to be way more retard proof first.
 
The fuck is wrong with these faggots? Seriously? Like unless you go to Smash Bros tournaments every fucking day or some shit, if you can use transit for all the rest of your needs, take a goddamn cab the few times you need it! Even the most testosteroned F350 driver will just use an Uber when they fly somewhere unless they bother renting.
These people aren't just not rich, they're notoriously cheap. That's why they want heavily subsidized transit when they go out partying (instead of calling a cab) even though transit systems are losing money hand over fist in the wee hours of the night.

It's also why they think that slapping up ultra-cheap apartment complexes in urban areas will somehow (by some vague understanding of supply and demand) make it cheap enough for them to live the hip urban lifestyle. At the very best case, this will lead to a Kowloon Walled City situation, and by all accounts looked like a miserable place to live. Yes, rent was practically free but you got what you paid for.
 
fuck is wrong with these faggots? Seriously? Like unless you go to Smash Bros tournaments every fucking day or some shit, if you can use transit for all the rest of your needs, take a goddamn cab the few times you need it! Even the most testosteroned F350 driver will just use an Uber when they fly somewhere unless they bother renting.
When you have no GF because of your anti car autism, a Smash Tournament is all you have left. You will break your own moral code because it is the only thing keeping you from blowing your brains out
 
When you have no GF because of your anti car autism, a Smash Tournament is all you have left. You will break your own moral code because it is the only thing keeping you from blowing your brains out
I think you're hitting closer to the mark, but still wide - the real deal is they're an average car user in real life, they larp as a carfucker online, and they want an excuse to absolve them of their sin.
 
I think you're hitting closer to the mark, but still wide - the real deal is they're an average car user in real life, they larp as a carfucker online, and they want an excuse to absolve them of their sin.
Guilt and self flaggelation is definitely a significant reason why they're justifying the guy getting a car- they want a excuse for themselves
 
We would need the reliability of a modern day jet to make flying cars mainstream. Otherwise as you said, it WILL be regulated to death. We aren't there. As it stands in 2024, One of these things would break and turn into a missile the moment a teenager drove it. It needs to be way more retard proof first.
Modern day jets are so reliable due to very strict maintenance schedules and inspections. Do you think Tyrone is gonna get bearings replaced on time or buy some RIMZ NIGGUH?
 
Otherwise as you said, it WILL be regulated to death.
It's already regulated to death.

You have 2 sides regulating it, the FAA and Local Government.

This is simplified. "VTOL" is vertical take off and landing, I'm going to use that instead of "oversized quadcopter".

The FAA has 2 classes of aircraft: Ultralight and Real

Ultralight aircraft are severely restricted as to where they can fly, they can't go into busy airspace, daylight only, can't operate over "congested" areas, so no operating over cities or many suburbs. The one advantage is they have no pilot certification requirements, you could just buy one and fly it. Some of the single person VTOLs will likely be flown that way.

Real aircraft have more stringent requirements but they can be flown over cities and in busy airspace, at night, and in some cases into clouds. But then you have to be a pilot, which even if streamlined will still likely to be in the tens of thousands of dollars.

Interestingly, the FAA doesn't much care about where you take off or land your private aircraft as long as you do it safely. Commercial operators have more restrictions. The only things on the ground they certify are airports.

For what "busy airspace" means, here's Salt Lake City. The red line(really the blue line it follows) is where you're not flying your ultralight and where "real aircraft" have to be in continuous communication with Air Traffic Control. Areas outside that have other rules and may or may not restrict ultralights.
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So, you're outside busy airspace, don't want to fly at night, don't mind the restrictions for your ultralight, the FAA doesn't care where you take-off and land as long as you're safe, you're good, right?

But wait, there's more.
Now we have local government, who does control the ground.

Let's look at SLC again:
16.16.070: LANDING FIELD ESTABLISHMENT CONDITIONS:

It is unlawful for any person to set up or to maintain within the limits of the city any landing field for aircraft without special permission first obtained from the mayor in writing. (Prior code § 2-3-17)

So, without a permit you're likely to have problems if you expect to pull out on the street and take-off. Sure you could get your vertiport(VTOL airport) certified, but then you're likely going to have NIMBYs and the city government to contend with.

I expect the single passenger ultralight VTOLs like the Jetson ONE to be the realm of the people with too much money who might want to fly from their house in Malibu,CA to their house in the Malibu hills.

Multi-passenger ones which are certified are likely to be used as air-taxis, probably initially with "real" pilots by companies that can deal with all the FAA and local government regulations. Things like the Joby S4.
 
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I would think that personal jetpacks would be the preferred way to get around in the sky, but that also has the possibility of being heavily regulated to hell and back, and these idiots will clap and go along with every change.
Personal jetpacks will never be sold to the public, or at least they will until regulators realize any sociopathic jackass can ruin the fun for the rest of us by dropping bowling balls onto pedestrians below or some retarded teenager dies flying into a bridge. Even in construction companies they would be regulated beyond use due to OSHA bullshit.
 
Personal jetpacks will never be sold to the public, or at least they will until regulators realize any sociopathic jackass can ruin the fun for the rest of us by dropping bowling balls onto pedestrians below or some retarded teenager dies flying into a bridge. Even in construction companies they would be regulated beyond use due to OSHA bullshit.

So that's a no for playing Jetpack Joyride in real life?
 
I don't think anti-car urbanists really see anything from an economic perspective.

Ask any average person who is not a lunatic hipster whether they'd rather live in a tiny cramped apartment or their own house with tons of space. Most people with money will choose to live in their own house and have their own source of transportation.

They think their local economy exists in vacuum and wealthy people won't just choose to live and spend their money elsewhere.
 
Ask any average person who is not a lunatic hipster whether they'd rather live in a tiny cramped apartment or their own house with tons of space. Most people with money will choose to live in their own house and have their own source of transportation.

They think their local economy exists in vacuum and wealthy people won't just choose to live and spend their money elsewhere.

Which is why the powers that be, who do know better than said lunatic hipsters, will do everything possible to screw over the average person and make it impossible to afford those things.
 
They think their local economy exists in vacuum and wealthy people won't just choose to live and spend their money elsewhere.
>Cities subsidize the suburbs! Tear down the highways and keep those suburban parasites out!
<Remote work becomes a thing thanks to covid lockdowns and suburbanites stay in their suburbs
<Businesses in the city go under as they have fewer customers
<Commercial real estate declines in value as employers need less of it, threatening real estate developers, landlords, and banks
<City loses tax revenue and is forced to raise taxes on residents and cut services

>Come back suburbanites! Return to office is mandatory!
>Cities subsidize the suburbs! Tear down the highways and keep those suburban parasites out!
 
I don't think anti-car urbanists really see anything from an economic perspective.

Ask any average person who is not a lunatic hipster whether they'd rather live in a tiny cramped apartment or their own house with tons of space. Most people with money will choose to live in their own house and have their own source of transportation.

They think their local economy exists in vacuum and wealthy people won't just choose to live and spend their money elsewhere.
The sad thing is they pretend to be focused on the economy but have to make up a lot of bullshit to "prove" it. See: endless quoting of Strong Towns' garbage.

Jason is watching troons again:
You know, when the inevitable happens—he troons out himself or he starts dating a troon, all this will make sense. In the meantime, fucking gross. This guy's sexuality is absolutely in question.
 
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