The problem is the guys pick up the foreign equivalent of coal burners, literally in the case of black guys that go to places like Brazil. A true trad waifu is going to have zero interest in a westernized foreigner like a passport bro. So the concept of getting a foreign wife because she’s more traditional fails right out of the gate. Unless you plan to live in that country, she’s just going to westernize more over time, which again defeats the purpose of going overseas. These guys never seem to think that things will change over time.
Doesn’t seem like a smart idea to me.
This just isn't true.
For one, I'm not going to get hung up on "trad" anything. Whatever it means, I don't really think about it. I don't look for "tradition," I just look for an arrangement where both would be happy, and anyway "traditional" just increasingly means a focus on the family and kids, and actually having kids.
If you guys have been in a relationship awhile or having had to resort to use dating apps or having to meet people outside of your close circles, you'd find out just how much dating standards have changed. Tiktok really does seem to be pushing messaging to women that they are better than men, their pussy is sacred, and men need to cough up a lot of money to get to it. Tiktok just really pushes so much toxic things. They really are teaching other women to manipulate men for money on these apps. This is one reason black men started Passport Bro'ing first, black women have become uber-rachet wanting big money gangsta hustlas and settling for nothing else, because other woman would shame them for it.
It's become that way for white women too, I dated a chick that used it heavily and got all her ideas and beliefs from it, so I got to hear about Graham Hancock, how white men rape more than black men (lmao okay) and everything else, and I saw (and pretended not to see) all the manipulative anti-man stuff she ingested and put out. Absolutely horrible shit. People on KF don't interact with or watch this shit because they're not losers so people here don't see the full picture of what is going on with this shit.
But anyway, it depends on the culture. But exoticism carries a lot of weight, people seem innately attracted to foreign qualities, race-mixing if you will. The Jews don't need to encourage it, people do it naturally. Some of these SEA cultures
prefer white men over the locals. There's multiple reasons for that I'll mention in a bit.
It is true they will westernize more in time if you move back to the states. You don't have to live in HER country though, you both can move somewhere else. Anyway, the same is true of any other relationship; people here in the west change over time too and they often grow apart because of it.
The other flip side of passport bros hasn't really been discussed here and that's living in a developing country on the American dollar, away from degenerating American culture and its crumbling infrastructure, not even just dating per se. Though in these countries you have much more options because your relative wealth comes off as success and ability to provide.
Elsewhere, I instantly become Chad. Visiting Poland, I even had a woman ask me out to go to Zakopane. That's not a walk in the park or going to see a movie, that's a day-long thing at the very least. The woman do not even talk to men the same. It's so much less combative and they don't act like they're trying to compete with men all the time. It's a completely different experience, truly. The physical standards in America are through the roof ridiculous. A lot of the dudes here that probably get ignored in real life would get positive attention elsewhere, it's just a fact. It's not just them, something is wrong with the west.
They've also never dealt with these women. OMG, muh trad Asian wifu. LMAO. I have spent enough time on immigration forums to know how these women either manipulate this belief western men have about them to their advantage or there is just a serious cultural misunderstanding as in she wants to send every dollar she makes plus yours back to her family in the Philippines or whatever.
I have dealt with these women. I have talked to people, including women, worldwide for fun and for learning for a long time. Often times it was just chatting on OkCupid because it used to be (and in some ways still is) a good way to make friends or meet people to talk to internationally. I've heard a lot of interesting stories, funny interactions, etc. Some of them are sad, like the atheist village girl in the Philippines who was in the closet over her beliefs, who came to her beliefs from reading online. I think she fell in love with me and ended up blocking me because she knew I wouldn't reciprocate... very sad. If she was still in touch with me these days I probably would have, which makes it even sadder.
What these women want first and foremost is a nice attractive guy who will treat them kindly and will be fathers, because these women want kids way more than American women do. The biggest draw they have for foreigners is
not money. It's because men in these regions are actually more likely to be abusive and have way higher demands for housework. It's not the passport bros that want bangmaids, it's the locals. I have heard this time and time and time again from these women and other people into this have seen the same thing. I've even offered a couple women I was friends or talking to to buy dinner or order BBQ sauce (expats will understand this) and they refuse to take it out of pride.
I've talked to a lot of American women and a lot of foreign women and I'm sorry to say that while I am definitely generalizing, the attitude is kinder and better overseas in less Westernized places. The more I've seen all of this over time the more I am convinced the West is rotting, though not for the same reasons many other people do. Due to my own experiences and background I've come to agree with some red pillers like Bo Refec (Legion of Men channel; not the kind of Andrew Tate redpill shit which is pathetic boyish boasting) that America's lack of an extended family network is a big problem in the country and people's support networks.
However the extended family thing is true, many times these women will send or expect you to send money overseas. Given the relative value of the American dollar, it's hard not to understand why. However the extended family will treat you like one of their own (her mom also becomes your new mom, though) and treat you well when you visit. It's just that
family is different overseas.
Also, I will circle back to "traditional" family... there a flip side to traditional families many forget, and that's often that
while the man makes the money, the woman spends it. The man may be the head of the household, but the woman controls domestic affairs and such. You have to be willing to accept some extent of this.
If you guys want to really understand this stuff, the pros and the cons, watch
The Filipina Pea's channel. It's very informative and everything she says jives with
everything I've seen firsthand or read elsewhere. Of course, her channel is about the Philippines and Filipinas, but a lot of it is generalizable elsewhere. It's an interesting rabbit hole to go down. Her cousin dated a foreigner like this, I don't believe she's married to a foreigner herself.
